And like that, America's history is scrubbed

Even the autocratic and totalitarian Russian tsar freed the serfs in 1861.

And as bad as serfdom was, it did not really even approach the cruelty and inhumanity of the chattel slavery system Robert E Lee continued to fight defending
 
RB 60 said:
Does your disdain for the south run deep enough that you think they should be removed from the Union?
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White libs hate the South because that is where most Black Americans choose to live.

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anatta said:
object and fight back with the truth that America is egalitarian under law, and reform doesn't mean destruction,,
no whining about it..speak up about American Exceptionalism
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The only thing exceptional about you is how wrong you end up being on everything you say.

Where's that 3% growth?
 
anatta said:
For years, Democrats and those on the left have been trying to suppress America’s true history — the one that tells of American Exceptionalism, the one that speaks of the genius of the Founding Fathers, the one that speaks of freedoms for the individual as coming from God, not government.

And now, with George Floyd, they’re having their moment in the sun.

The left is on a rampage right now, busily tearing down any semblance of American history from America’s public eye.

The destroyers are everywhere.

In Washington, D.C., it was the World War II Memorial and fountain that were targeted by vandals who spray-painted, “Do black vets count?” And the Paralyzed Veterans of America’s headquarters. And the Department of Veterans Affairs headquarters. And several spots in the vicinity of the White House.

There are more, there are many more.

The protesters are supposedly angry at police brutality and systemic police racism.

But tearing down national monuments and defacing expressions of American history are acts of ISIS terrorists.

That such defacement is occurring on a widespread scale right now is not only a sad commentary on the tensions currently tearing at America’s fabric. But it’s also a sad, even sadder face-slapping reality show of how our schools are failing our emerging generations.

If true history were still taught in the public schools, angry youth wouldn’t be roaming the streets looking to lash out at some of the very foundations that helped make America so great and free in the first place. If places of higher learning in America hadn’t become breeding grounds for far-leftist professors to implant their propaganda, educated idiots wouldn’t be trampling over the symbols of America Past, trying to blot out the offensive and with it, the truths.

Simply put, a statue of Robert E. Lee doesn’t represent a national worship of Robert E. Lee. It only represents the historical contributions Robert E. Lee made in America — historical contributions that are irrefutably substantial.

Who would Black Lives Matter rather have as the faces of America’s monuments and memorials and statues? Or, to use the statue-destroyers’ standard: Who is perfect enough to be a face of America’s monuments and memorials and statues? Unless the answer is Jesus, it’s a lie.

America is not without sin. America doesn’t have a sinless past.

But what America does have is a Constitution and a set of founding documents and principles that lay the groundwork for all citizens, no matter ethnicity, no matter sex, no matter religion, no matter political leanings — but for all citizens to seek, to pursue, to achieve their hopes, goals and dreams in freedom, absent overburdensome government interference.

What America does offer is a set of governing ideals that guarantee a black man the same rights as a white man; that hold a president of the United States to the same judicial standards as a garbage collector; that secure the freedoms of a woman the same as a man — as coming from God, not government.

After all these years of warring and bloodshed, of bickering and disputing, of dying through trying: They’re still there. The dream of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness is still alive and well in America, for all to grab at, for all to embrace, no matter race, creed, color, sex, etc.

It’s just that it’s much easier to throw paint on a memorial than it is it to study hard, work hard and stay the course to achieve the dream.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/11/and-like-that-americas-history-is-scrubbed/
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Right out of the Orwellian Marxist playbook. First step is whitewashing all history, removing all statues.
 
This is on a smaller scale but USC's President yesterday announced they are removing the bust of a former USC President, and removing his name from a building (where I had classes), because he was a supporter of eugenics and thus is at odds with the school's multicultural community and inclusion and diversity.

I'm not a scientist nor all that familiar with eugenics. But in a reading a debate about this last night there were people who are concerned that we are re-writing history and at the time it was consider serious science and what we consider serious science today could be viewed in the same light in the future. Thus the censoring of history and canceling of the past is fraught with many ramifications.
 
Cypress said:
Robert E Lee was not American between 1861 - 65.

He wilfully chose to fight for and become a citizen of a nation called the Confederate States of America whose constitution made chattel slavery permanent in perpetuity
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WTF?
After all these years of warring and bloodshed, of bickering and disputing, of dying through trying: They’re still there. The dream of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness is still alive and well in America, for all to grab at, for all to embrace, no matter race, creed, color, sex, etc.

It’s just that it’s much easier to throw paint on a memorial than it is it to study hard, work hard and stay the course to achieve the dream.
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Earl said:
White House, all of the earliest presidents (except for John Adams and his son John Quincy Adams) were slave owners. George Washington kept some 300 bondsmen at his Mount Vernon plantation. Thomas Jefferson—despite once calling slavery an “assemblage of horrors”—owned at least 175 enslaved workers at one time. James Madison, James Monroe and Andrew Jackson each kept several dozen enslaved workers, and Martin Van Buren owned one during his early career.

William Henry Harrison owned several inherited enslaved people before becoming president in 1841, while John Tyler and James K. Polk were both slaveholders during their stints in office. Zachary Taylor, who served from 1849-1850, was the last chief executive to keep enslaved people while living in the White House. He owned some 150 enslaved workers on plantations in Kentucky, Mississippi and Louisiana."

Do we remove statues of these Founding Fathers?

I don't think so.

The Democrats are the new Taliban...and ISIS.
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give it time and they too will be graven images for the leftwing marxists to destroy
 
Irish said:
Right out of the Orwellian Marxist playbook. First step is whitewashing all history, removing all statues.
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A statue in a public park is not a history lesson.

A statue in a public park is almost always a statement about a person or idea the community at large admires, honors, or seeks to emulate.

Russians and Ukrainians took down most statues of Lenin because he no longer represented a model for the community.

That does not mean people are prevented from learning about Lenin and communism is books, schools, seminars, libraries, classes.
 
LV426 said:
Don't the statues whitewash history by glorifying their subjects?
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if you understood history, there is no 1 interpretation for ANY of it. Even the American revolution is controversial for some.
What historians do is compare various perspectives and then come to 1 or more agreements on such
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Now you reply with some woke BS, and completely miss the points
 
LV426 said:
Are you serious? What is the purpose of building a statue of someone?
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I apologize I read it wrong. It does glorify the person, but it also teaches us history. Even if its bad history.

We have a Law Enforcement memorial statue in my home town. BLM will say that this is offensive and needs to be taken down. I would disagree.
 
Bigdog said:
Washington D.C. was failing to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act in the Free States as was its Constitutional duty.

And General Lee was instrumental in reuniting America.
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he certainly did his part.
looking at not just the civil war but also reconciliation give a truer picture of the south and the soldiers
 
Cypress said:
A statue in a public park is not a history lesson.

A statue in a public park is almost always a statement about a person or idea the community at large admires, honors, or seeks to emulate.

Russians and Ukrainians took down most statues of Lenin because he no longer represented a model for the community.

That does not mean people are prevented from learning about Lenin and communism is books, schools, seminars, libraries, classes.
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They want their participation trophies and are throwing a fit because they can't have them.
 
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