Anatta .. Are You Ready To Join Our Cause Now?

No surprise there. Republicans don't typically protest well.

We're too austere.

Ya but I mean the Democrats and leftists didn't come out to protest the RNC nearly as much as they are protesting the DNC, the Sanders camp is rightfully pissed and though I doubt they'll vote for Trump they most likely won't be voting for Hillary either.
 
Ya but I mean the Democrats and leftists didn't come out to protest the RNC nearly as much as they are protesting the DNC, the Sanders camp is rightfully pissed and though I doubt they'll vote for Trump they most likely won't be voting for Hillary either.

Oh, I totally agree with that. Many of them will not vote, vote third party or say piss on it, and vote for Trump.
 
Clearly Mrs Clinton is not anybody's great reformer, though she may yet be pushed towards giving something to ordinary people by the lack of enthusiasm for her on the left of her Party. Anyone voting for Mr Trump, however, will be deliberately voting for the moral and intellectual disintegration of the US, and world-wide contempt.
 
the original intent of anything in the constitution or bill of rights is easily discernible if only one chooses to read the constitutional debates and papers.

Not to mention the last time I checked the Constitution was written in English not Swahili. The problem today is total and selective incorporation plus doctrines, the judiciary is not a legislative body.
 
Clearly Mrs Clinton is not anybody's great reformer, though she may yet be pushed towards giving something to ordinary people by the lack of enthusiasm for her on the left of her Party. Anyone voting for Mr Trump, however, will be deliberately voting for the moral and intellectual disintegration of the US, and world-wide contempt.

Has his hopeless corruption been proven beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt as Hillarys and the DNCs have? I was a Rand Paul and Jeb Bush supporter in the primary and would voted third party were it not for the fact that every vote that isn't Republican is a vote for Hillary Clinton.
 
Last edited:
Not to mention the last time I checked the Constitution was written in English not Swahili. The problem today is total and selective incorporation plus doctrines, the judiciary is not a legislative body.

My only point was that discerning intent is not a cut and dry enterprise. There were rancorous debates even when the documents were being written.

Even today we could pick sides, just for debate practice, and go for pages debating the founders intent behind the 2nd Amendment.
 
why call me out?
I've been clear it's ABC=Anybody But Hillary. I'd like to vote for Trump in that the Dems are stale and corrupt,
and Clinton is the ultimate establishment. Time to change the sheets so to speak.

I still gotta be sure Trump can be "presidential". I like the fact he's not going to rely on executive orders in place of legislation.
I'm no fan of his 'transactional' foreign policy either - though any improvement in Russian/west relations
is welcome.

also going 3rd party is a tired old cop out-I've done it for florida governor -as well as Gary Johnson last time.
But i'm in no hurry to declare

Well, I could have said Bernie supporters but I didn't think you would mind me using your login.

Bernie's supporters and Trump supporters should unite in order to insure the defeat of Hillary Clinton and the entire Clinton political machine.

Obama is an ideologue but Hillary is a gangster who lies through her teeth. Her and her alleged husband practice gangster-ism and power hungry Hillary will do or say anything in her lust for globalist power.

I saw Bernie's speech last night and this guy has done a complete 360 from what he campaigned about .. anti Hillary / Wall Street to being completely in the tank FOR Hillary. That does not however, include his supporters because they will go on without Bernie and his plastic message regardless of how much they love this guy.

The time is ripe for a unison between both sides with the overriding goal of stopping Hillary.
 
Has his hopeless corruption been proven beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt as Hillarys and the DNCs have? I was a Rand Paul and Jeb Bush supporter in the primary and would voted third party were it not for the fact that every vote that isn't Republican is a vote for Hillary Clinton.


Who cares? The man is clearly a version of Hitler without the convictions, laughable and alarming by turns.
 
Well, I could have said Bernie supporters but I didn't think you would mind me using your login.

Bernie's supporters and Trump supporters should unite in order to insure the defeat of Hillary Clinton and the entire Clinton political machine.

Obama is an ideologue but Hillary is a gangster who lies through her teeth. Her and her alleged husband practice gangster
no problem
Bernie has moved to what he thinks is the lessor of 2 evils. I think Clinton is just plain evil so I won't be going along for that ride
 
wouldn't the TEXT AS WRITTEN be 'original intent'? or are you trying to say something else we're not seeing?
the problem is original intent was used to say "well the Framers were saying this and that" -
whereas if you JUST read and use the text there is no interpretation of intent. It's there or it's not.
 
Not necessarily.

The second amendment gets kicked around in debates over 'intent'; that is, what did the founders intend when they wrote 'well regulated militia'? Or the first amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" can mean a couple of different things when you consider the historical context in which it was written.

Whereas a textualist would take the words at face value. Very similar to strict biblical literalism by my understanding.

I don't necessarily subscribe to either doctrine. Taking into account historical context is helpful in interpreting texts, imo.
that's it. but you are correct stare decisis is also valid ( precedent). It's when there is doubt about precedent; then you go directly back to the text.
at all times the text has to support the interpretation/law
 
Textualism is a formalist theory of the interpretation of law, holding that a legal text's ordinary meaning should govern its interpretation, as opposed to inquiries into non-textual sources such as the intention of the legislature in passing the law, the problem it was intended to remedy, or substantive questions of the justice and rectitude of the law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textualism
 
Who cares? The man is clearly a version of Hitler without the convictions, laughable and alarming by turns.

It is the Hillary campaign and the DNC that were proven to be run by Nazis in the WikiLeaks email dissemination, and it's Hillary and the DNC sending out their jack booted thugs to forcefully silence Bernie supporters and squash dissent, we are seeing now a night of the long knives purge of the Democratic Party, remember like Sanders even Rohm heiled his Fuhrer even as he was about to be executed.
 
Last edited:
that's it. but you are correct stare decisis is also valid ( precedent). It's when there is doubt about precedent; then you go directly back to the text.
at all times the text has to support the interpretation/law

Not under selective and total incorporation plus.
 
Last edited:
that's gibberish

Auto correct it should have read "not under,"



Total Incorporation Plus
Definition
Total Incorporation plus other fundamental rights not expressly granted in the Bill of Rights- Justice Murphy and Rutledge dissenting in Adamson

Selective Incorporation Plus
Definition
Selective Incorporation plus other fundamental rights not expressly granted in the BoR. Justice Goldberg, Warren, Brennan in Griswold
http://www.flashcardmachine.com/american-constitutional-law.html

The court is no longer bound by Case Law or the Constitution, it allows them to legislate from the bench through an insane interpretation of the 14th amendment.
 
Last edited:
Auto correct it should have read "not under,"



Total Incorporation Plus
Definition
Total Incorporation plus other fundamental rights not expressly granted in the Bill of Rights
it looks like some kina organizing method for a Constitutional law class.
That's fine for studying case law -but I was speaking more about Constitutional philosophy.
Which is why I've gone back to textualism...the text is always paramount, and cannot be disputed
 
Back
Top