An honest question on assault rifles.

rjhenn said:
Well, you don't NEED a computer, do you? It just exposes you to identity theft and fraud, so possession needs to be strictly regulated.


Actually, it sounded pretty accurate. You aren't responding rationally, just running around like the proverbial chickens with their heads cut off.

Your description doesn't sound anything like what she described.
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Seems all you're good for is just being an NRA troll with little improvement on the responses for the fools you're trying to defend. Like you, she didn't answer the OP...just lashed out with schoolyard insults and a wholly erroneous version of a recent event in NYC (my backyard, by the way).
 
rjhenn said:
Exactly, "36 years". If guns are the problem, then why weren't mass shootings common before that, when there were few, if any, restrictions on guns or who could purchase them. Even children could lagally buy guns. Gun free zones were virtually unknown back then. The increase in mass shootings correlates with increasing restrictions. Obviously, something besides guns is responsible, but no one is at all interested in figuring out what.
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Obviously, you can't prove your original claim or have the guts to honestly answer the OP. Your revisionist blathering is just becoming more and more absurd.
 
rjhenn said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
1. Stop lying....all one has to do is read the info from both sites, then ask the question....what weapon type was used in the last 30 years that had the most victims for MASS shootings.

2. You're missing the point or are just being stubborn. If the AR-15 (style) weapon was NOT on the market, then the Parkland shooter would not have that weapon. He could have chosen ANY weapon, but he CHOSE THAT ONE BECAUSE HE FOUND IT MOST EFFICIENT FOR HIS PURPOSE.

Now, why do YOU need such a weapon?
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You are clearly obsessed with the AR.
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Awww, widdle NRA troll is running out of steam....he can't answer the OP and his response here is so lame it's pathetic.
 
rjhenn said:
You're hilarious. You ask me for information, then you post a link to the very information that you were asking me for. Don't you read your own links?
As for the 3D printer issue, "selling/distributing those specs on the net will be illegal, as will be the software for it." only if the law making bump stocks illegal makes the plans also illegal. Besides, there's nothing particularly complicated about a bump stock.
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You made the state that full auto/machine gun can be purchased by the average civilian if they have a "special license" TODAY. I asked for proof of this, as the link I provided does NOT state such (if you can find the sentence that does, copy and paste it). Clearly, you can't back up what you say, so you bluff and bluster as usual. And your take on bump stocks essentially repeats my point. You simpleton. Answer the OP.
 
rjhenn said:
As usual, your link does nothing to support your argument, further showcasing how deep in delusion you are on the topic. As to the OP, it's a meaningless question. Why does there have to be an answer?
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you're a liar as usual....you made claims regarding ammo strength...I provided the proof that belies what you stated, your denial non-withstanding since anyone can click the link and see your lie.

And since you don't have the guts or intelligence to answer the OP, there is no further reason to make a fool of you further. Adios.
 
Threedee said:
The 2nd Amendment does not exist for home protection. Because people like you exist, that wish to supplant the American position with the British position, confirms the threat to liberty which demands that the people retain their arms.
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Again, since I have no criminal record or advocacy for mindless anarchy and have NEVER advocated a rescinding of the 2nd Amendment, your insinuation is basically a slanderous lie. You have stated that you need an assault weapon because people disagree with you....that's the mindset of dictators, despots, communist and monarchial governments. Those are threats to liberty.

That's you, toodles. You said it, not me. And Britain and the USA have been allies for a LONG time, don't cha know.

Thanks for your honesty....you fascist git. Prattle on.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Spare me the hair splitting, because the nuts that have been choosing this weapon did so because it fit exactly what they wanted to do....assault a crowd of people. Deal with it.
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Since I'm a law abiding citizen, what right do you have to know what I own or to try and restrict what is currently legal?
 
Taichiliberal said:
Seems you think that if one doesn't use EXACTLY the same term as you negates the bottom line. That's not the case here, chuckles.....what you have is a conversion from semi-auto to full auto....whether it's a crank or a flip of a switch and trigger pull or a bump stock. The victims don't really care. The magazine, the high capacity ammo capability...yeah, it's an assault rifle, as many victims of mass shootings discovered.
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Semi auto= 1 round down range with each pull of the trigger.
Full auto = many rounds down range with a single pull.

I'm surprised that you weren't aware of this.

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rjhenn said:
"The Constitution preserves "the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison of Virginia, The Federalist, No. 46)
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The second amendment allowed the US to send firearms to GB, from private owners, during WW II and also created a situation where the Japanese decided to NOT try to invade the US.
 
rjhenn said:
So, what, there should only be one model of handgun, shotgun and rifle available to civilians?
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The anti gunners want to regulate what the 2nd amendment says; but I don't see them writing their complaints on parchment, using a quill pen and then sending them to JPP via a man on a horse.
 
rjhenn said:
The usual ignorant dreck. You can do more damage "in a crowd situation" with a pump shotgun. That's why the Army used them as trench sweepers and that's why they're nicknamed "street sweepers". But, as others have noted, they don't get the same publicity as the ARs get. Yhey also recoil more, which the pussies who commit mass school shootings probably can't handle.
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This is the true semi auto street sweeper shotgun.

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It's smaller then an AR-15 and can do a hell of a lot more damage and they're are still legal to own.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Let me dumb it down for you:

1. She gave no answer to the op as to why SHE NEEDS that particular weapon.

2. Her childish description of "liberals'" does not answer the OP.

3. Her referral to the recent case here in NYC is moronic...video of that case show a mentally disturbed man running up to people and pointing a metal tube their head quickly, making a threat and then running away. Not enough time to determine if it was a gun or pipe or garden hose handle. Out of all the 911 calls made, 9/10 said they weren't sure if it was a gun or not....the dispatch just issues a "man with a gun" scenario to the cops. A tragedy, but the cops were justified (IMHO) in their reaction. (fatal shooting).
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Since when does "NEED" fit into this?

Why do people NEED sports cars?
 
Taichiliberal said:
Please provide valid proof as to what exactly is this "special license" that a CIVILIAN can purchase/acquire to get a fully automatic weapon. in the meantime, please note that the law states that anyone owning a full automatic https://rocketffl.com/who-can-own-a-full-auto-machine-gun/

As to your take on the 3d printer thing on bump stocks....if bump stocks are made illegal, selling/distributing those specs on the net will be illegal, as will be the software for it.

Now, quit stalling and answer the OP question.
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The "specs" are already out there.

How are you going to stop people from "sharing"?
 
Taichiliberal said:
I've provided some facts regarding the ammo capability of the AR15. The whole rapid fire trigger pull of the AR15 is it's big selling point....couple that with ammo as powerful as some of the bolt action hunting rifles out there, and you have an assault rifle. It's shorter barrel length does not match with standard hunting rifles...very telling.

Now, answer the OP, please.
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Are you aware that almost any rifle can be modified to fire faster??
Different springs to start with.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Again, since I have no criminal record or advocacy for mindless anarchy and have NEVER advocated a rescinding of the 2nd Amendment, your insinuation is basically a slanderous lie. You have stated that you need an assault weapon because people disagree with you....that's the mindset of dictators, despots, communist and monarchial governments. Those are threats to liberty.

That's you, toodles. You said it, not me. And Britain and the USA have been allies for a LONG time, don't cha know.

Thanks for your honesty....you fascist git. Prattle on.
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We are making progress though, chap.

It was mere weeks ago, that gun humpers would howl at me in protest - they would literally be triggered - when I made the statement that these civilian assault rifles really had no place in America's traditional gun culture of hunting or self defense. They actually are a mediocre to middling choice for personal self defense.....that these weapons primarily catered to the Rambo fantasies some dudes never outgrow.

At this point, we have had more than enough gun humpers full on admit they want these weapons to satiate their Rambo-esque fantasies of overthrowing the federal government, or warding off invading regiments of Cubans, that we can safely say my original statements were correct all along.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Wrong as usual. You can repeat yourself ad nausea...doesn't change the history of this weapon...and folk like you got their wish and put this back on the market...the retailers advertised it's efficiency, and people bought it on that salesmanship...as did the perpetrators of recent mass shootings. Deal with it.
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Sorry kiddo, you are the one repeating falsehoods.
 
Cypress said:
We are making progress though, chap.

It was mere weeks ago, that gun humpers would howl at me in protest - they would literally be triggered - when I made the statement that these civilian assault rifles really had no place in America's traditional gun culture of hunting or self defense. They actually are a mediocre to middling choice for personal self defense.....that these weapons primarily catered to the Rambo fantasies some dudes never outgrow.

At this point, we have had more than enough gun humpers full on admit they want these weapons to satiate their Rambo-esque fantasies of overthrowing the federal government, or warding off invading regiments of Cubans, that we can safely say my original statements were correct all along.
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Please show where one pro-gun poster spoke of " Rambo-esque fantasies" or of "warding off invading regiments of Cubans".
 
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