Americans Ignorance about America

Corazón said:
Try the BBC, Reuters and allsides.com.
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If a source that people want to use the excuse of "it's biased" in order to discount the information says the same thing as a source the one claiming bias likes, how is the information wrong because a source they don't like provides it?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Conservative Education...now there’s an oxymoron.
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Liberal Indoctrination . . now there's the truth. Not my fault you were fooled into believing the indoctrination you received was anything more than that. That's how brainwashing works. You convince the idiot you brainwashed that you taught them something. No wonder 95% of black vote for Democrats. They've been brainwashed into believing their place in life is due to something that none of them every were and that whites that never did what they use to blame are at fault.
 
CFM said:
If a source that people want to use the excuse of "it's biased" in order to discount the information says the same thing as a source the one claiming bias likes, how is the information wrong because a source they don't like provides it?
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It isn't but it's important to read various sources to get hopefully a more balanced view.
 
CFM said:
Liberal Indoctrination . . now there's the truth. Not my fault you were fooled into believing the indoctrination you received was anything more than that. That's how brainwashing works. You convince the idiot you brainwashed that you taught them something. No wonder 95% of black vote for Democrats. They've been brainwashed into believing their place in life is due to something that none of them every were and that whites that never did what they use to blame are at fault.
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Yes...I learned critical thinking and analysis skill from my liberal arts education indoctrination. Why I shall never be on par with you conservative intellectual giants who know with absolute certainty that true knowledge can only be handed down by authority. [/sarcasm]
 
Althea said:
You do have to recognize the irony, given your thread about failing education?

To the OP....if you think back to school years, we were inundated with homework and test prep. History/Social Studies tends to be boring to kids...although I'm fascinated by a lot of it now. But for students, history is comprised of meaningless dates to be remembered, when you're trying to decipher the latest math problems before the next test.

English/Grammar follows the same suit, although I still remember quite a bit from the old days of sentence structure, etc.

Immigrants have a far better grasp of geography than we do, but again....we grew up focusing on the important subjects, leaving SS on the back burner. Given that our govt never learns from history, it might be a good idea to do away with it altogether?
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The Rocker formerly known as Cosmic is irony impaired.
 
Corazón said:
It isn't but it's important to read various sources to get hopefully a more balanced view.
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A balanced view means exactly squat if both points of view are wrong. Facts exist independently of the observer. Arming one self with information is useless unless you have the critical thinking skills to analyze, assess and evaluate information critically. These tenets of a liberal arts education is why it is superior and dominant too conservative education and its reliance on knowledge handed down by authority.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
A balanced view means exactly squat if both points of view are wrong. Facts exist independently of the observer. Arming one self with information is useless unless you have the critical thinking skills to analyze, assess and evaluate information critically. These tenets of a liberal arts education is why it is superior and dominant too conservative education and its reliance on knowledge handed down by authority.
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Hmm, you are exactly describing the average believer in CAGW. They surrender any critical thinking on the subject and appeal to consensus and authority. Case in point, the Goddard Institute of Space Science (GISS) has nothing to do with space and very little to do with Robert Goddard, the father of modern rocket science. The present head Gavin Schmidt is not even a climatologist, but a mathematician by training. Their offices are above the restaurant featured in Seinfeld and located in New York.

Hopefully the new head of NASA will knock some sense into them and stop their nefarious shenanigans.

http://principia-scientific.org/corrupt-climate-science-discredits-nasa/
 
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noise said:
It’s no great secret that Americans overall know very little about the history — and even current state — of their own country, as poll after test after survey after embarrassing statement have proved for decades.

The just-released 2017 civics survey conducted by the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania found, among other things:

*More than a third of American adults (37 percent) can’t name any of the rights guaranteed under the First Amendment.
*Only a quarter of American adults (26 percent) can name all three branches of government.
*More than half of American adults (53 percent) incorrectly think it is accurate to say that immigrants who are here illegally do not have any rights under the U.S. Constitution.

Last year’s survey by the Annenberg center found:

*Nearly 4 in 10 (39 percent) incorrectly said the Constitution gives the president the power to declare war. Just more than half (54 percent) knew the Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war.
*A vast majority (83 percent) correctly said the Constitution gives Congress the power to raise taxes.
*A majority (77 percent) know the Constitution says that Congress cannot establish an official religion — though almost 1 in 10 agreed with the statement that the Constitution says, “Congress can outlaw atheism because the United States is one country under God.”

A 2015 U.S. Government Accountability Office report, using nationally representative Education Department data, found that about 75 percent of eighth-graders across the country did not have a solid grasp of geography, and the report concluded that a majority of states do not require geography courses in middle school or high school.

Only 18 percent of eighth-graders scored proficient in U.S. history, 27 percent were at or above proficient in geography and 23 percent performed at or above proficient in civics — though it is important to note that NAEP proficiency levels are considered higher than grade-level proficiencies.

Now, we have a new example of American historical and civic illiteracy. This one involves Puerto Rico, the island recently devastated by two hurricanes.

Puerto Rico is not a foreign country, at least it isn’t if you live in the United States. It is a U.S. territory, and those on the island who were born in Puerto Rico are American citizens (though, like denizens of the District of Columbia, have no voting rights in Congress).

But a new poll by an outfit called Morning Consult, as reported in the New York Times, found that only 54 percent of Americans know that people born in Puerto Rico are American citizens. The story said:

This finding varied significantly by age and education. Only 37 percent of people ages 18 to 29 know people born in Puerto Rico are citizens, compared with 64 percent of those 65 or older. Similarly, 47 percent of Americans without a college degree know Puerto Ricans are Americans, compared with 72 percent of those with a bachelor’s degree and 66 percent of those with a postgraduate education.

A May 2016 Economist/YouGov poll had even worse results: Only 43 percent of those who replied knew that Puerto Ricans were U.S. citizens.

The Puerto Rico Report reported that last year, Stephen Moore, a senior economic contributor at FreedomWorks and a distinguished visiting fellow with the Project for Economic Growth at the right-wing Heritage Foundation, said this while testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee:

And such attitudes provide yet more evidence, as if any were needed, that Americans’ lack of understanding of their own country can have important consequences for people beyond simply being thought of as dumb.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...out-their-own-country/?utm_term=.69fcceffc2d9
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We no longer teach civics we teach neo-Marxian postmodernist victimology which is nothing but fashionable nonsense.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Yes...I learned critical thinking and analysis skill from my liberal arts education indoctrination. Why I shall never be on par with you conservative intellectual giants who know with absolute certainty that true knowledge can only be handed down by authority. [/sarcasm]
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There you go again with the strawman claims; Liberals are quite FULL of them. :rofl2:

And yet, authoritarianism goes hand-in-hand with Liberal leftist dogma. I do wish you actually had been educated. ;)
 
Mott the Hoople said:
A balanced view means exactly squat if both points of view are wrong. Facts exist independently of the observer. Arming one self with information is useless unless you have the critical thinking skills to analyze, assess and evaluate information critically. These tenets of a liberal arts education is why it is superior and dominant too conservative education and its reliance on knowledge handed down by authority.
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...and Liberal political dogma is quite empty when it comes to facts but quite FULL of fabrications. BLM, gun laws/restrictions, morality, family, abortion.....the list is long.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
A balanced view means exactly squat if both points of view are wrong. Facts exist independently of the observer. Arming one self with information is useless unless you have the critical thinking skills to analyze, assess and evaluate information critically. These tenets of a liberal arts education is why it is superior and dominant too conservative education and its reliance on knowledge handed down by authority.
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multi-source,and build up your own knowledge base -yes
 
Truth Detector said:
...and Liberal political dogma is quite empty when it comes to facts but quite FULL of fabrications. BLM, gun laws/restrictions, morality, family, abortion.....the list is long.
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Yes why we all know that we'd all better off if reactionary conservatives like you dragged us kicking and screaming back to the 17th century. LOL
 
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