Americans Are Losing Faith in the Value of College. Whose Fault Is That?

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When it comes to higher education worldwide, the United States is an outlier in more ways than one. In Canada and Japan, public-university tuition is now about $5,000 a year. In Italy, Spain and Israel, it’s about $2,000. In France, Denmark and Germany, it’s essentially zero.

A few decades ago, the same thing was true in the United States; government funding covered much of the cost of public college. Now students and their families bear much of the burden, and that fact has changed what used to be a pretty straightforward calculation about the economic value of college into a complex math problem.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/magazine/college-worth-price.html
 
"A decade later, Americans’ feelings about higher education have turned sharply negative. The percentage of young adults who said that a college degree is very important fell to 41 percent from 74 percent. Only about a third of Americans now say they have a lot of confidence in higher education. Among young Americans in Generation Z, 45 percent say that a high school diploma is all you need today to “ensure financial security.” And in contrast to the college-focused parents of a decade ago, now almost half of American parents say they’d prefer that their children not enroll in a four-year college.
 
Colleges should teach STEM only. Leave out the sports and all the easy, verbal, mickey mouse majors. But that would mean no blacks and few women and we can't have that.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
Colleges should teach STEM only. Leave out the sports and all the easy, verbal, mickey mouse majors. But that would mean no blacks and few women and we can't have that.
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I heard just the other day that Russia graduates almost as many STEM as America does, China about seven times our count.
 
BidenPresident said:
When it comes to higher education worldwide, the United States is an outlier in more ways than one. In Canada and Japan, public-university tuition is now about $5,000 a year. In Italy, Spain and Israel, it’s about $2,000. In France, Denmark and Germany, it’s essentially zero.

A few decades ago, the same thing was true in the United States; government funding covered much of the cost of public college. Now students and their families bear much of the burden, and that fact has changed what used to be a pretty straightforward calculation about the economic value of college into a complex math problem.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/magazine/college-worth-price.html
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This is easy...leftists.
 
BidenPresident said:
you are a very stupid asshole
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I might be but since leftists have controlled education in America for decades, Im not sure how anyone with a functioning brain could even ask the asinine question that you did. Calling me stupid doesnt change that but you're just too obstinate and lazy to realize it.
 
Yakuda said:
I might be but since leftists have controlled education in America for decades, Im not sure how anyone with a functioning brain could even ask the asinine question that you did. Calling mbut youre too e stupid doesnt change that but you're just too obstinate and lazy.
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you are a very stupid asshole
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
Colleges should teach STEM only. Leave out the sports and all the easy, verbal, mickey mouse majors. But that would mean no blacks and few women and we can't have that.
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Universities should teach STEM, Humanities and the Arts, Journalism, etc. I stand with you 100% in leaving out the sports and the "fake" majors that are usually reserved for the athletics departments.

But universities MUST teach more than just STEM.

I did my degrees all in the hard physical sciences but I got the MOST out of my humanities and arts classes.
 
Yakuda said:
Far too many people go to college.
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This is 100% true. AMerica needs to re-open more trade schools. Not every career path requires a 4 year degree. There are a lot of people being forced into university who really don't want to be there and they shouldn't have to be to still be a functional member of society.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
As long as the govt guarantees student loans, the colleges will keep raising tuition.
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Actually part of the reason tuition is going up is because states SYSTEMATICALLY STARTED TO PONY UP LESS MONEY TO BUDGET THE UNIVERSITIES. Usually, as in my home state, when lottery funds were set up to be the boon for "education" the state seemed to say "Hey! We don't need to give them any money now!" Which leads to funding gaps in universities.

It's not JUST that, but it isn't really just pure greed based on financial aid.

There MAY be some greed in the way the pay committees at those universities choose to lard $$$$ on senior administrators and coaches.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I heard just the other day that Russia graduates almost as many STEM as America does, China about seven times our count.
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America is sadly giving up it's tech crown. We have some of the best places to earn a STEM degree but that isn't what Americans want to do. So we educate the rest of the world. For now. Don't know how long that is going to last, though.
 
Cupressus said:
America is sadly giving up it's tech crown. We have some of the best places to earn a STEM degree but that isn't what Americans want to do. So we educate the rest of the world. For now. Don't know how long that is going to last, though.
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That the Regime destroys the STEM job market by importing so many people to do STEM jobs has a lot to do with it.

That we spend so much time trying to get women to go into STEM fields when they usually dont stick long because they dont enjoy the work does as well.
 
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