America is losing its religion — and the effects will be long-lasting

A personal relationship with God is strictly a tenet of evangelical Protestantism.

It is not a tenet of Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, or to my knowledge mainline Protestants.

In Eastern Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism it is ritual, institution, ceremony, and sacrament which mediate the relationship between God and the individual.

Which helps explain why there are so many denominations including the Republican Prosperity Christianity, a huge fad among the Alt-Right.
 
Most organized churches are social clubs,giving lip service to God

Not surprising. Humans are social animals and churches are just one of the thousands of ways we socialize.

All humans and all church goers are sinners. Some more than others. Even Confucius and Aristotle recognized moral cultivation is a life long project requiring constant refinement and mindfulness.

I only attend service a few times a year, but I always enjoy it and do not feel it is time wasted.
As for church socializing, I am never going to stop going to the vodka-soaked Saint's days feasts, and no one can stop me! :)
 
Protestants believe in salvation by faith alone.
How does that concept help anything?

You can be a racist piece of shit, a wife beater, a child molester, and a terrorist trumpanzee,
but if you accept an executed hippie Jew as your lord and saviour,
an allegedly nice guy, by the way, nothing like you,
fuck, you're all set!

Catholics rejected the reformation that arrived at that theory, but then the Pat Buchanans, Rick Santorums, and Paul Ryans showed up
to prove that altar boy diddling monks weren't our only problem.

Secular humanism has a reassuring aura of sanity to it.
 
Not surprising. Humans are social animals and churches are just one of the thousands of ways we socialize.

All humans and all church goers are sinners. Some more than others. Even Confucius and Aristotle recognized moral cultivation is a life long project requiring constant refinement and mindfulness.

I only attend service a few times a year, but I always enjoy it and do not feel it is time wasted.
As for church socializing, I am never going to stop going to the vodka-soaked Saint's days feasts, and no one can stop me! :)

:laugh: Is that like every American is Irish on March 17th and Mexican on May 5th? :laugh:

Just as there are people who walk the walk of Christianity instead of just talk the talk, there are those who are non-religious and then there are those who just hate others and use hating religion as a crutch.

Not a church goer here and can count on one hand how many times I've been in the past decade, mostly funerals and weddings.
 
The preeminent Christian philosopher Soren Kierkegaard maintained that being an authentic Christian is extremely difficult. .

considering Kierkegaard as "Christian philospher" is problematic.......his concept of God is not as a real, existing "being" but as that which the individual has promoted to deity by his belief......."I believe in God, therefore he is".....
 
:laugh: Is that like every American is Irish on March 17th and Mexican on May 5th? :laugh:

Just as there are people who walk the walk of Christianity instead of just talk the talk, there are those who are non-religious and then there are those who just hate others and use hating religion as a crutch.

Not a church goer here and can count on one hand how many times I've been in the past decade, mostly funerals and weddings.
:)

I only attend service Easter, Christmas, and when I am visting family.

I have my doubts, so I suppose I linger at the margins of agnosticism.

But I really enjoy the tradition, the ritual, the people, the quite contemplation.

The food and the celebrations are not bad either!
 
:)

I only attend service Easter, Christmas, and when I am visting family.

I have my doubts, so I suppose I linger at the margins of agnosticism.

But I really enjoy the tradition, the ritual, the people, the quite contemplation.

The food and the celebrations are not bad either!
As you pointed out earlier, humans are social animals. :)

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75% OF AMERICANS BELIEVE IN GOD.


CHOKE ON IT, WITH THE REST OF THE SELF-DECLARED, GLORIFIED MONKEYS. .
 
And it’s a good thing because too many humans use religion to excuse evil

They use politics and many other excuses too. This doesn't make a book or belief evil. Books don't do evil, people do evil.

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They want white people *especially* white Christians to die off and be replaced with people ‘of color’.

The Replacement Paranoia has been a feature of Conservative fascism for decades.

You couldn't have identified yourself any more as a "very fine person" unless you were carrying a tiki torch and screaming "Jews will not replace us".
 
75% OF AMERICANS BELIEVE IN GOD.

CHOKE ON IT, WITH THE REST OF THE SELF-DECLARED, GLORIFIED MONKEYS. .

First, belief in a religion isn't required to believe in God/Supreme Being/the Almighty/Allah/etc.

Secondly, your hateful attack indicates you don't believe in Christianity as a religion. Do you believe in God? I know you believe in and support RW politics. Did you support Roy Moore?

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Which helps explain why there are so many denominations including the Republican Prosperity Christianity, a huge fad among the Alt-Right.



WE are exhorted to be "Good Stewards".


Being able to help others, instead of always needing others' help, is a "bad thing" in Leftgoofyworld.


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Hello Dutch Uncle,

Disagreed. A person can't say "We should treat everyone equally, even the negroes" and then declare they are being fair, equal and unbiased when called on their racism.

Obviously we're all free to our beliefs and it's only those that push their views onto others, regardless of what those views are, who are crossing the line of civil social behavior.

Agreed on all points, so I'm not sure what part of my post you were disagreeing with.
 
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