Almost Twice as Many Republicans Died From COVID Before the Midterms Than Democrats

Dutch Uncle said:
The smart thing to do. It's those that are paranoid about "expert" medical advice and who take medical advice from pundits and Facebook who are most at risk.
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We have an explosion of men in their 50's starting to smoke for the first time in their lives. I can understand starting smoking when you are a teenager, everyone thinks they are immortal at that age. Starting smoking in your 50's is a death wish. Literally trump supporters are committing suicide.
 
Not one of you liberals blames China for covering up their disease from the very start. And, it sure didn't come from a fucking fish market.
 
Walt said:
We have an explosion of men in their 50's starting to smoke for the first time in their lives. I can understand starting smoking when you are a teenager, everyone thinks they are immortal at that age. Starting smoking in your 50's is a death wish. Literally trump supporters are committing suicide.
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Says Who?
 
Walt said:
We have an explosion of men in their 50's starting to smoke for the first time in their lives. I can understand starting smoking when you are a teenager, everyone thinks they are immortal at that age. Starting smoking in your 50's is a death wish. Literally trump supporters are committing suicide.
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I couldn't find anything on that statistic but did find this: https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/12/health/us-cancer-deaths-decline-wellness/index.html
US cancer death rate falls 33% since 1991, partly due to advances in treatment, early detection and less smoking, report says
The rate of people dying from cancer in the United States has continuously declined over the past three decades, according to a new report from the American Cancer Society.

WINDSOR, ON - MAY 8: Chemo drug, Paclitaxel drips from the bag en route to Diane's body.
Diane Marley, 48 is a cancer patient at Windsor Regional Hospital. She was diagnosed with breast cancer in December. She is finishing up her chemo regimen in the next few weeks. She is one of hundreds of Ontario cancer patients who received diluted chemotherapy in the last year and who are still undergoing treatment to beat the disease.

The US cancer death rate has fallen 33% since 1991, which corresponds to an estimated 3.8 million deaths averted, according to the report, published Thursday in CA: A Cancer Journal for Clinicians....


...In their report, researchers from the American Cancer Society also pointed to HPV vaccinations as connected to reductions in cancer deaths. HPV, or human papillomavirus, infections can cause cervical cancer and other cancer types, and vaccination has been linked with a decrease in new cervical cancer cases.

Among women in their early 20s, there was a 65% drop in cervical cancer rates from 2012 through 2019, “which totally follows the time when HPV vaccines were put into use,” said Dr. William Dahut, the society’s chief scientific officer.

“There are other cancers that are HPV-related – whether that’s head and neck cancers or anal cancers – so there’s optimism this will have importance beyond this,” he said.

The lifetime probability of being diagnosed with any invasive cancer is estimated to be 40.9% for men and 39.1% for women in the US, according to the new report.
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Remember when some parents were against HPV vaccine for their daughters? Any chance there's a correlation between those parents and anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers?
 
RB 60 said:
Not one of you liberals blames China for covering up their disease from the very start. And, it sure didn't come from a fucking fish market.
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It's not China's fault that you believed Trump when he said it was a hoax.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
As Biden proved, vaccinated elderly people have a greater chance of survival than unvaxxed. Who on JPP doesn't know that all the Trump's and Pences were fully vaxxed when the time came?

I've had COVID after vaccinations with no ill effects except a really shitty 24 hours, 72 hours total. I'm 66. Where are Darth, Stretch and a few other MIA elderly anti-vaxxers my age?

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The actual study *does* have age breakdowns. If only StinksALot could read. Here's the study that the Vice.com article was drawn from.

EXCESS DEATH RATES FOR REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC
 
LV426 said:
Who cares? The point is that COVID killed so many Republicans that it likely made the difference in several races, like all the statewide races in AZ that were decided by very narrow margins; for instance, the AZ AG race was decided by about 1,000 votes in a state where 30,000 died of COVID.
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You have been vindicated when you claimed that more (R)s died than (D)s. The actual study, btw, does offer an age breakdown.

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w30512/w30512.pdf
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I couldn't find anything on that statistic but did find this
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This one is interesting.

Illness as indicator
Local health outcomes predict Trumpward swings

THE first piece of news Americans woke up to on November 9th was that Donald Trump had been elected president. The second was that he owed his victory to a massive swing towards Republicans by white voters without college degrees across the north of the country, who delivered him the rustbelt states of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania—all by one percentage point or less. Pundits had scoffed at Mr Trump’s plan to transform the Wall Street-friendly Republicans into a “workers’ party”, and flip the long-Democratic industrial Midwest: Hillary Clinton had led virtually every poll in these states, mostly by comfortable margins. But it was the plutocratic Donald who enjoyed the last laugh.

In the aftermath of the stunning result, statistical analysts homed in on blue-collar whites as never before. Although pre-election polls showed Mr Trump with a 30-percentage-point advantage among whites without a college degree, exit polls revealed he actually won them by almost 40 points. Unsurprisingly, the single best predictor identified so far of the change from 2012 to 2016 in the share of each county’s eligible voters that voted Republican—in other words, the swing from Mitt Romney to Mr Trump—is the percentage of potential voters who are non-college whites. The impact of this bloc was so large that on November 15th Patrick Ruffini, a well-known pollster, offered a “challenge for data nerds” on Twitter: “Find the variable that can beat % of non-college whites in the electorate as a predictor of county swing to Trump.”


With no shortage of nerds, The Economist has taken Mr Ruffini up on his challenge. Although we could not find a single factor whose explanatory power was greater than that of non-college whites, we did identify a group of them that did so collectively: an index of public-health statistics. The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington has compiled county-level data on life expectancy and the prevalence of obesity, diabetes, heavy drinking and regular physical activity (or lack thereof). Together, these variables explain 43% of Mr Trump’s gains over Mr Romney, just edging out the 41% accounted for by the share of non-college whites (see chart).

The two categories significantly overlap: counties with a large proportion of whites without a degree also tend to fare poorly when it comes to public health. However, even after controlling for race, education, age, sex, income, marital status, immigration and employment, these figures remain highly statistically significant. Holding all other factors constant—including the share of non-college whites—the better physical shape a county’s residents are in, the worse Mr Trump did relative to Mr Romney.

For example, in Knox County, Ohio, just north-east of Columbus, Mr Trump’s margin of victory was 14 percentage points greater than Mr Romney’s. One hundred miles (161 km) to the east, in Jefferson County, the Republican vote share climbed by 30 percentage points. The share of non-college whites in Knox is actually slightly higher than in Jefferson, 82% to 79%. But Knox residents are much healthier: they are 8% less likely to have diabetes, 30% less likely to be heavy drinkers and 21% more likely to be physically active. Holding all else equal, our model finds that those differences account for around a six-percentage-point difference in the change in Republican vote share from 2012.


The data suggest that the ill may have been particularly susceptible to Mr Trump’s message. According to our model, if diabetes were just 7% less prevalent in Michigan, Mr Trump would have gained 0.3 fewer percentage points there, enough to swing the state back to the Democrats. Similarly, if an additional 8% of people in Pennsylvania engaged in regular physical activity, and heavy drinking in Wisconsin were 5% lower, Mrs Clinton would be set to enter the White House. But such counter-factual predictions are always impossible to test. There is no way to rerun the election with healthier voters and compare the results.

The public-health crisis unfolding across white working-class America is hardly a secret. Last year Angus Deaton, a Nobel-prize-winning economist, found that the death rate among the country’s middle-aged, less-educated white citizens had climbed since the 1990s, even as the rate for Hispanics and blacks of the same age had fallen. Drinking, suicide and a burgeoning epidemic of opioid abuse are widely seen as the most likely causes. Some argue that deteriorating health outcomes are linked to deindustrialisation: higher unemployment rates predict both lower life expectancy and support for Mr Trump, even after controlling for a bevy of demographic variables.

Polling data suggests that on the whole, Mr Trump’s supporters are not particularly down on their luck: within any given level of educational attainment, higher-income respondents are more likely to vote Republican. But what the geographic numbers do show is that the specific subset of Mr Trump’s voters that won him the election—those in counties where he outperformed Mr Romney by large margins—live in communities that are literally dying. Even if Mr Trump’s policies are unlikely to alleviate their plight, it is not hard to understand why they voted for change.

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2016/11/19/illness-as-indicator
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ThatOwlWoman said:
The actual study *does* have age breakdowns. If only StinksALot could read. Here's the study that the Vice.com article was drawn from.

EXCESS DEATH RATES FOR REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC
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It's called Natural Selection:

Political affiliation has emerged as a potential risk factor for COVID-19, amid evidence that Republican-leaning counties have had higher COVID-19 death rates than Democrat- leaning counties and evidence of a link between political party affiliation and vaccination views. This study constructs an individual-level dataset with political affiliation and excess death rates during the COVID-19 pandemic via a linkage of 2017 voter registration in Ohio and Florida to mortality data from 2018 to 2021. We estimate substantially higher excess death rates for registered Republicans when compared to registered Democrats, with almost all of the difference concentrated in the period after vaccines were widely available in our study states. Overall, the excess death rate for Republicans was 5.4 percentage points (pp), or 76%, higher than the excess death rate for Democrats. Post-vaccines, the excess death rate gap between Republicans and Democrats widened from 1.6 pp (22% of the Democrat excess death rate) to 10.4 pp (153% of the Democrat excess death rate). The gap in excess death rates between Republicans and Democrats is concentrated in counties with low vaccination rates and only materializes after vaccines became widely available.
 
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Walt said:
The sad part is they have been dying at greater numbers, even before Covid. trump supporters in particular are just making bad health decisions which is bringing down America's life expectancy. The rest of America has rising life expectancies, as does almost everywhere else on Earth.

More of the trump supporters have died from these bad health decisions than Americans died from AIDS. These idiots want to lecture us on health decisions? It is insane.
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Not only that, but they want to deny health insurance to all citizens unless they can get it through an employer.
 
Gondwanaland said:
Er, Trump is responsible for the vaccine getting through so quickly, and has touted it quite proudly, despite significant heckling from his followers. Nice fail
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After Trump lost the election in November 2020, he said and did nothing about COVID. And this was during the worst surge of the pandemic.
He didn't mention COVID once in the last three months of his presidency. Not once. Again, this was during the worst surge of the worst pandemic in 100 years.

So take your Trump praise and shove it up your fucking ass. Trump didn't give a fuck about COVID and Americans dying. Case closed.
 
Diesel said:
Good. Too bad it wasn't enough for Democrats to keep the House. A few more months and enough Republican voters might have been dead.
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If The NY Democratic Party had just rammed through the Hochulmander like they did in OH, the Democrats would have retained the House.
 
Anybody who accurately describes the complete worthlessness of trumpanzee life is labeled an extremist, even by liberals.
Americans are clearly their own worst enemies due to their timidity,

Everybody who believes in moderate solutions for immoderate problems is dysfunctional, and that seems to describe most of us.
There are no moderate solutions to trumpism. We either purge them with draconian resolve, or we allow them to destroy everybody's quality of life.
 
Gondwanaland said:
Er, Trump is responsible for the vaccine getting through so quickly, and has touted it quite proudly, despite significant heckling from his followers. Nice fail
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Trump wouldn't even wear a mask, and I'm quite sure he doesn't wash his hands after taking his hourly Big Mac shit. Find a different messiah already.
 
archives said:
How does "died from COVID" any different from "died with COVID?"
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This is the part where the willfully-ignorant will claim that physicians lied on hundreds of thousands of death certificates. Even if the person was run over by a city bus, if he had COVID all these dishonest physicians and medical examiners put down the cause of death as COVID because reasons. (Excess deaths make Trump look bad, excess deaths scare ppl into getting the ̶p̶o̶i̶s̶o̶n̶ vaccine so the pharm companies make more money, sheeple sheeple sheeple, etc.)
 
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