Allies distance themselves from U.S. after Trump's first foreign trip

anatta said:
I'm not sure..remember Congress didn't even need to approve the Iran nuke deal ( which was a treaty by all measures) because it was set up by "International executive agreement" [the P5+1 UN arrangement]

Congress is absolutely AWOL on all matters from declaration of war to treaty ratifications.
They cede all the powers to the executive in favor of the dog and pony show they run as Congressional business .

We basically are a unitary presidency government, with Congressional powers more as window dressings then expressed powers
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as I recall, with the Kyoto Accord, it was never binding on us because only Bill Clinton liked it......why should the Paris Accord be any different?......
 
blackascoal said:
WASHINGTON*— President Trump received a largely cordial welcome on the first overseas trip of his presidency. But now that he's returned to Washington, the foreign leaders he met with are increasingly blunt in their reviews of the American president.

In separate remarks intended mostly for domestic consumption, leaders of Germany, France and Israel all sought to distance themselves from Trump, just days after meeting with the president during his nine-day foreign trip to Saudi Arabia, Israel, Vatican City, Brussels and Italy.

Among the sources of friction: Trump's reluctance to unreservedly commit to the North Atlantic alliance, his skepticism of a climate change accord signed on to by his predecessor, President Obama, and outreach to Palestinians in pursuit of a Middle East peace agreement.

"It’s clear*that in Europe at least, that anti-Trump position plays well domestically," said Ivo Daalder, a former U.S. ambassador to NATO in the Obama administration. "But the larger issue is that the trip didn’t go well in Europe."

The dynamic is partly one of Trump's brash style. "I think what grates on European leaders*is the sense that he does not treat them as equals, let alone as allies," Daalder said. "He approaches them in this confrontational way, in an attempt to constantly get a better deal out of them."

► France: New French President Emmanuel Macron said his now-famous white-knuckled handshake with Trump was a deliberate attempt to demonstrate that he wouldn't be bullied by the American president.*“One must show that you won’t make small concessions, even symbolic ones, but also not over-publicize things, either,” he told the French newspaper Journal du Dimanche.*“My handshake with him — it wasn’t innocent.”

► Germany: Chancellor Angela Merkel said Sunday at a Bavarian beer hall that Europe can no longer "fully rely" on its overseas allies. On climate issues, she said, the Group of Seven meeting was "seven against one"*— counting the European Union as part of the seven (and the United States as the one). Her chief political rival*took umbrage at the way Trump sought to "humiliate" Merkel in Brussels.*"I reject with outrage the way this man takes it upon himself to treat the head of our country's government," said Martin Schulz, who is challenging Merkel for the chancellorship as an "anti-Trump" candidate. He said Trump was*"acting like an autocratic leader."

► United Kingdom: British Prime Minister Theresa May is upset that American intelligence officials leaked information about the Manchester concert bombing to the media. Trump acknowledged that he got an earful from May, tweeting Sunday that she was "very angry" about the leaks. "Gave me full details!"

► Israel: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has said Israel has "no better friend"*than Trump,*appeared to hold the president at arm's length on*Monday. Speaking to*members of his conservative Likud party, Netanyahu warned that a Trump-brokered peace negotiation with the Palestinians "comes at a price." And while he welcomed U.S. support for Israel, he emphasized that*"there is no such thing as innocent gifts."

► Palestinian Authority: An Israeli television station reported that Trump shouted at Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, during their meeting in Bethlehem last week yelling, "You tricked me!" and accusing the Palestinian Authority of inciting violence in the West Bank. (The Palestinians denied the report.)

Trump's trip began in Saudi Arabia with a summit of Muslim Arab leaders*— and they're perhaps the least likely to grumble. After feeling neglected by Obama, the Saudis welcomed a $110 billion arms package and Trump's more bellicose rhetoric toward mutual enemies like Iran and the Islamic State.

But in Europe, Trump's "America First" foreign policy appeared to alienate other members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, the 68-year-old alliance intended to contain Russia — the*country at the center of a growing controversy over ties to Trump aides.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...es-after-trumps-first-foreign-trip/102292048/
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He is hated by 95 percent of the world who cares and a majority of the USA

It is frightening that the right cobbled together a hate path to electoral college victory. Just lets hold our collective breaths until he is removed.
 
Micawber said:
He is hated by 95 percent of the world who cares and a majority of the USA

It is frightening that the right cobbled together a hate path to electoral college victory. Just lets hold our collective breaths until he is removed.
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Undoubtedly Trump is THE most hated human being on the planet .. and his moron horde think that's a good thing.

Whatever Trump does will be undone.
 
Its amazing to me how the Republicans consider a man who praises and gushes all over the Saudi's while being rude to the Germans and French to be an infallible messiah of biblical proportions.
 
Jarod said:
Its amazing to me how the Republicans consider a man who praises and gushes all over the Saudi's while being rude to the Germans and French to be an infallible messiah of biblical proportions.
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The Trump disaster is far more revealing about those who support him than Trump himself.

We've always known Trump to be a pompous clown, but those who support him reveal themselves to be imbeciles, racists, and traitors to the entire world.

... and once again, America reveals itself to be not the country it pretends to be.
 
Good. Maybe they will get off their asses, and do something for a change.

So far since 9/11 they've offered a handful of troops and "support" in Astan, and Iraq. Let in millions of Muslimes, who've openly said they only support sharia law, and don't rekignize western govt.

Haven't done anything to fight ISIS or other terror networks.

Haven't done much to stop Russia in the east.

Follow PC doctrine, and elect weak socialist leaders.

Then they bemoan the US and demand we save them from their own screw ups.
 
anatta said:
Merkel is grandstanding for her re-election, but the Paris accords are flawed.

Article 5 is still in play - witness the escalation of US forces in our current Cold War 2.0 ..NATO integration is not at risk
But a more independent Europe is a good thing
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... but privately Merkel really respects Trump, huh?

That's delusional.

What makes you believe that she isn't truly offended by a classless idiot like Trump?

NATO isn't at risk? Again, delusional.

Of course NATO is at risk .. just as Putin planned.

Our allies are equally disgusted by Trump and his boorish adolescent behavior .. they don't trust him. Alliances are built on TRUST, mutual perspectives and outcomes.

Your analysis isn't based on facts. It's based purely on partisan imagination and the avoidance of truth.
 
Jarod said:
Its amazing to me how the Republicans consider a man who praises and gushes all over the Saudi's while being rude to the Germans and French to be an infallible messiah of biblical proportions.
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How exactly was Trump "rude" to Germany?

They are supposed to spend at least 2% of GDP on defense. They are not. In democrat party parlance that is not paying your fair share. Trump wants them to pay their fair share. Are you opposed to them paying their fair share?

They have been walking over us for years. Obama couldn't get them to pay their fair share.
 
'Putin will be thrilled': Former NATO ambassadors say Trump just dealt 'a major blow' to the alliance

Instead, Trump used the speech largely to lecture representatives from nearly two dozen member countries for not meeting their "financial obligations" to increase defense spending to 2% of their gross domestic product.

"If NATO countries made their full and complete contributions, then NATO would be even stronger than it is today, especially from the threat of terrorism," Trump said.

Nicholas Burns, who was the US's ambassador to NATO under President George W. Bush, said it was "a major mistake" for Trump to not "reaffirm publicly and explicitly" the US's Article 5 commitment to NATO.

"I was the US ambassador to NATO on 9/11 and remain grateful for the unstinting support given to America by our European allies and Canada," Burns said on Thursday. "Trump is not acting like the leader of the West that all US presidents before him have been dating back to Truman."

Trump's speech at the NATO summit came on the heels of his trip to the Middle East, where he told Arab leaders he was "not here to lecture" them about human rights.

Richard Haass, a former US diplomat who has been the president of the Council on Foreign Relations since 2003, said on Twitter that Trump's "overly solicitous treatment" of Saudi Arabia stood in contrast to his "public lecturing of NATO allies," which Haass called "unseemly and counterproductive."

Ivo Daalder, the US's ambassador to NATO from May 2009 to July 2013, said Trump's reluctance to commit to the guiding principle was "a major blow to the alliance."

"Putin will be thrilled at Trump's refusal to endorse Article 5," said Tom Wright, the director of the Center on the United States and Europe and a fellow in the Project on International Order and Strategy at the Brookings Institution. "Unimaginable under any other president."
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-nato-article-5-spending-2017-5
 
Vlad is glad...
Trump is an obedient puppet.

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anatta said:
Germany was about climate change- the US hasn't decided to pull out of Paris accord or not yet.

The Manchester leaks by the US surely didn't come from Trump adm.

Macron was showing his new independence as prime minister

Israel and the PA are self explanatory..

I'm all in for more European independence -more cooperation on terrorism for sure, but Europe should take the lead for it's own defense, and pay for it too.
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Let be clear, it's not the USA, it's the man you helped make king of the country & rule by caveat.......:palm:
 
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