Allies despair as Trump abandons America's leadership role at a time of global crisis

Russia annexes - not invades- Crimea. there was a referendum to go along with the Little Green Men

Thousands of Russian soldiers without insignias (The Little Green Men) were backed up by 25,000 Russian soldiers with insignias invaded the Crimea. A month later there was a referendum under occupation was held, and Crimea was annexed by Russia.

But it was first invaded, then occupied, and finally annexed.
 
Thousands of Russian soldiers without insignias (The Little Green Men) were backed up by 25,000 Russian soldiers with insignias invaded the Crimea. A month later there was a referendum under occupation was held, and Crimea was annexed by Russia.

But it was first invaded, then occupied, and finally annexed.
OK yhe sequence is supposed to be important.
My feeling on this is Putin's hand was forced because Poroshenko opposed the Russia-led Eurasian Customs Union.
More then that though is the fact the Russan lease at Sevastopol was constantly threatened

Putin had no choice but to annex.invade
 
OK yhe sequence is supposed to be important.
My feeling on this is Putin's hand was forced because Poroshenko opposed the Russia-led Eurasian Customs Union.
More then that though is the fact the Russan lease at Sevastopol was constantly threatened

Putin had no choice but to annex.invade

Even now almost no one in either Crimea or the rest of Russia regrets the move from what I saw.
 
Even now almost no one in either Crimea or the rest of Russia regrets the move from what I saw.
True. Crimea is Russian heritage, language . It belongs with Russia.
Putin built the Kerch Straight Bridge to insure access and increase military and economic ties

The Kyiv faction and US Russiaphobes squeal about it -but forget them
 
The USA has a madness affair with Israel.

I mean, even Soviet Russia didn't bomb a US ship, like Israel did to the USSR Liberty,.

Now, Russia just invades Crimea, and bam sanctions.

Meanwhile, Israel has been invading Palestine for over 75 years, and bam more funding.

Very true. The Zionist press has turned the Palestinian resistance movements into ' terrorists ' and the illegal invaders into plucky Jewish ' heroes '. They abhor the Internet and freedom of speech.

As an aside- Crimeans voted to return Crimea to Russia- from where it came. It was never Ukranian to start with- and it only ended up under Ukraine's wing due to a unilateral and illegal action on the part of a drunken Nikita Krushev. The Crimeans were overjoyed to be able to be part of Russia again with close to 10% voting for it via a free referendum. Palestinians, on the other hand , have been murdered by the hundreds of thousands during the illegal occupation of their country by European pseudo-Jews supported by Western leaders looking for domestic votes.
That occupation has to end. It matters not one jot that the mango moron in the White House and his Jewish son-in-law say it's OK. The world at large will not accept it.
 
True. Crimea is Russian heritage, language . It belongs with Russia.
Putin built the Kerch Straight Bridge to insure access and increase military and economic ties

The Kyiv faction and US Russiaphobes squeal about it -but forget them

Well there is that but there is also all of the pain that came from it, and that they are now aligned with China in part because of it.....but they say that this was the right thing to do, Putin was strong enough a capable enough to do it....and that they are not going to regret it no matter what the West does.

This was a real wake up time for Russia on how badly America has decayed, which is better to learn early than late.
 
Well there is that but there is also all of the pain that came from it, and that they are now aligned with China in part because of it.....but they say that this was the right thing to do, Putin was strong enough a capable enough to do it....and that they are not going to regret it no matter what the West does.

This was a real wake up time for Russia on how badly America has decayed, which is better to learn early than late.
UN/US sanctions have >squeezes< the Putin/XI relationship together.
Basically Russia has nowhere else to go if denied western banking and destruction of it's oligarchs
 
UN/US sanctions have >squeezes< the Putin/XI relationship together.
Basically Russia has nowhere else to go if denied western banking and destruction of it's oligarchs

It did not have to happen, the "We have to shiv Trump, he is an existential threat and FUCK THE PEOPLE...RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!!(Tucker Carlson voice)" hysteria was the final straw.

The New Chinese Empire says thanks for making this so easy.
 
Very true. The Zionist press has turned the Palestinian resistance movements into ' terrorists ' and the illegal invaders into plucky Jewish ' heroes '. They abhor the Internet and freedom of speech.

As an aside- Crimeans voted to return Crimea to Russia- from where it came. It was never Ukranian to start with- and it only ended up under Ukraine's wing due to a unilateral and illegal action on the part of a drunken Nikita Krushev. The Crimeans were overjoyed to be able to be part of Russia again with close to 10% voting for it via a free referendum. Palestinians, on the other hand , have been murdered by the hundreds of thousands during the illegal occupation of their country by European pseudo-Jews supported by Western leaders looking for domestic votes.
That occupation has to end. It matters not one jot that the mango moron in the White House and his Jewish son-in-law say it's OK. The world at large will not accept it.

Hamas and Fatah are terrorists and the Arabs are a terrorist people as evidenced by their celebrating of men who stab infants to death in their beds as heroes.

The Crimean referendum was rigged not only were they not given the option of maintaining the status quo but if you believe that 95% voted to secede including their 20% non Russian speaking population then you are more retarded than I thought which is nearly impossible.
 
btw where do liberals think this money is going to come from? They dont want anyone to work. States are already complaining that they dont have tax revenue (self inflicted because of length of lockdown) and if states dont have tax revenue then the federal level certainly doesnt as well.

So any monies given here have to be borrowed. Why not cut out the middle man and just get money directly from China or other countries we normally borrow from?
 
btw where do liberals think this money is going to come from? They dont want anyone to work. States are already complaining that they dont have tax revenue (self inflicted because of length of lockdown) and if states dont have tax revenue then the federal level certainly doesnt as well.

So any monies given here have to be borrowed. Why not cut out the middle man and just get money directly from China or other countries we normally borrow from?

The federal government can borrow money at a much lower rate than the states. Even if the states have to pay back the federal government, it is still a good deal.

BUT IT GETS BETTER!!! Probably consumption has dropped by a lot more than production, which would mean massive deflation. Nothing is certain yet, but it certainly is better than even odds of deflation. The only way to fight deflation is to print money. Literally, the federal government is about to create a bunch of free money. The best part about it is that the federal government has to create that money.
 
Its funny how this "leadership role" can pretty much be summed up to "give us more money"

It is more like guarantee the world order. It costs some money to station a few hundred troops in the Balkans, but less than you would think. It does mean that if Estonia is invaded, we are at war, because we just lost a few hundred troops. Strangely enough, it makes war less likely, and therefore saves money.
 
The federal government can borrow money at a much lower rate than the states. Even if the states have to pay back the federal government, it is still a good deal.

BUT IT GETS BETTER!!! Probably consumption has dropped by a lot more than production, which would mean massive deflation. Nothing is certain yet, but it certainly is better than even odds of deflation. The only way to fight deflation is to print money. Literally, the federal government is about to create a bunch of free money. The best part about it is that the federal government has to create that money.

Lol who do you think the federal government is borrowing that money from? They're borrowing it from we the people and here's the kicker, it's we the people who have to pay it back too. 99.9% of public debt is owed to ourselves.

Furthermore; if you print all of this "free" money and add to the liquidity of the market while maintaining the shutdown you're going to end up with hyperinflation because there's nowhere to spend it.

But that's the plan isn't it? Implement a hidden tax through the devaluation of the dollar via quantitative easing so the Federal Government can continue to expand and spend like drunken sailors and insure that the Fed can implement negative interests rates as low as they want by slowly but surely getting rid of hard currency to prevent cash hording. Meanwhile a once free citizenry becomes nothing but serfs completely dependent on the state.
 
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The federal government can borrow money at a much lower rate than the states. Even if the states have to pay back the federal government, it is still a good deal.

BUT IT GETS BETTER!!! Probably consumption has dropped by a lot more than production, which would mean massive deflation. Nothing is certain yet, but it certainly is better than even odds of deflation. The only way to fight deflation is to print money. Literally, the federal government is about to create a bunch of free money. The best part about it is that the federal government has to create that money.

lol? How do you figure consumption has dropped by a lot more than production? We literally almost had a meat shortage. People are at home producing nothing being given money by the govt to consume.
 
Hamas and Fatah are terrorists and the Arabs are a terrorist people as evidenced by their celebrating of men who stab infants to death in their beds as heroes.

The Crimean referendum was rigged not only were they not given the option of maintaining the status quo but if you believe that 95% voted to secede including their 20% non Russian speaking population then you are more retarded than I thought which is nearly impossible.

Israel is a terrorist too, who else shoots into crowds massacring & maiming many?
 
Those who are invaded and are defending their own country are only called ' terrorists ' by the assholes invading them. Hamas is a resistance organization. The Palestinians are ENTITLED to defend themselves under international law.
The invaders are the terrorists. That's the LEGAL position. Fuck Izrael. Bunch of fascists on the way out.
 
Furthermore; if you print all of this "free" money and add to the liquidity of the market while maintaining the shutdown you're going to end up with hyperinflation because there's nowhere to spend it.

If you print free money to reverse deflation, then it does not cause hyperinflation. It reverses the deflation. This is a complex concept.

If the economy is destroying money, then the Fed has to print money to reverse that destruction. That is free money. It is good luck for us when it happens.

But that's the plan isn't it? Implement a hidden tax through the devaluation of the dollar via quantitative easing so the Federal Government can continue to expand and spend like drunken sailors and insure that the Fed can implement negative interests rates as low as they want by slowly but surely getting rid of hard currency to prevent cash hording. Meanwhile a once free citizenry becomes nothing but serfs completely dependent on the state.

It is a disorganized plan, if it were a plan. You have deflation causing quantitative easing, but somehow inflation at the same time causing devaluation. Then somehow we are back to deflation causing negative interest rates. Finally a devalued money causing people to become dependent on it, which is the exact reverse of what a devalued money does.

There are a lot of different dangers out there, but they will not all happen.
 
lol? How do you figure consumption has dropped by a lot more than production? We literally almost had a meat shortage. People are at home producing nothing being given money by the govt to consume.

That is the current best guess, but it could be the other way around. Basically, people are running scared and not spending. The world is trying to get their saved money into the safe haven of the US. That is propping up the US stock market, while dropping demand. All the signs are there.
 
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