All trans women are simply men pretending to be women.” Do you agree with her ?

[AProudLefty]

There it is.

I understand you suffer from cognitive dissonance.

How so?

You hold two contrary positions simultaneously and truly believe both - because only the party matters.

Huh? What do the parties have to do with this?

Men pretending to be women are not in fact women.

Not biologically female, correct.

False.

Explain how it meets the definition.

Hardly - you're just ducking again.

Nope. Straw men are not an accepted form of argument.

 

[Into the Night]

Never denied transgender peoples' biological sexes.

Yes you have, liar.

The only ones pretending to be women are cross-dressers.

Okay. ALL 'transgender' men are pretending to be women.

Not quite. J. K. Rowling is wrong. Transgenderism is a real thing and is based on science.

Science is not a buzzword or a sexual perversion.

 

[Into the Night]

The logic does not compute.

Argument of the Stone fallacy.

The same can be said about gay men. Many have been married and have children.

Homosexual activity does not produce offspring, LeftNut. Perhaps Mommy never told you that.

They have accepted their lot as they grew older.

They are outliers.

Not their lot, LeftNut. Their choice.

 

[Damocles]

Like this mentally ill freak who identify as a cat

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So is he really a cat?

If she is a cat, she needs to give up her driver's license... She also couldn't use money or the internets... Have you seen my cat type, it's incomprehensible.

 

[AProudLefty]

Yes you have, liar.

Your imagination does not make it a fact.

Okay. ALL 'transgender' men are pretending to be women.

Disagreed.

Science is not a buzzword or a sexual perversion.

Lost context again?

 

[AProudLefty]

Argument of the Stone fallacy.

Fallacy fallacy.

Homosexual activity does not produce offspring, LeftNut. Perhaps Mommy never told you that.

No shit, Sherlock?

Not their lot, LeftNut. Their choice.

Then you are a bisexual since you said it's a choice.

 

[Into the Night]

Quote me.

Denying your own posts NEVER works, LeftNut.

Correct. Their biological sexes don't change.

So it IS men pretending to be a woman.

There is no pretending.

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.

You, IIRC, agreed that there are differences between male and female brains.

You are still locked in this paradox.

Ive provided the definition of mental illness. Both do not meet it.

You are still locked in this paradox.

Straw man.

Fallacy fallacy. No straw man here.

 

[Into the Night]

Your imagination does not make it a fact.

DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!

Disagreed.

Lost context again?

Roll them dice!

 

[Into the Night]

Fallacy fallacy.

Argument of the Stone fallacy.

No shit, Sherlock?

Paradox.

Then you are a bisexual since you said it's a choice.

'Choice' does not mean 'bisexual'. Go learn English.

 

[Into the Night]

You brought up homosexuality. Homosexuality is literally an attraction to the same sex.

Tell me you can't answer a question without telling me you can't answer a question.

Word games won't help you, Void. RQAA.

 

[AProudLefty]

'Choice' does not mean 'bisexual'. Go learn English.

No shit, Sherlock?

 

[Into the Night]

How so?

To Uncensord2008: QED

 

[Into the Night]

No shit, Sherlock?

Then why did you say it was???

 

[Damocles]

Rightys are so simple. Chromosomes are a factor ion sex determination. But there are varieties in chromosomes too. there are other chromosomes that are seen as sex influencers. Then chemistry is a factor like hormones, androgens, and pregesterone.
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/12/1237991522/male-female-sex-science-human-biology

Extremely rare.

This is like saying that because a baby was born without an arm that means that arms are now on a spectrum. It really doesn't change that humans have two arms. Fingers aren't really on a spectrum either even though some folks have fewer or more than ten (counting thumbs).

(The six fingered man... My name is Inigo Montoya,... You kill my father, prepare to die!")

 

[AProudLefty]

Extremely rare.

This is like saying that because a baby was born without an arm that means that arms are now on a spectrum. It really doesn't change that humans have two arms. Fingers aren't really on a spectrum either even though some folks have fewer or more than ten (counting thumbs).

There's nothing "missing" in transgender/intersex folks.

But you're correct... it's rare.

 

[Damocles]

There's nothing "missing" in transgender/intersex folks.

But you're correct... it's rare.

There is a rare genetic defect, just like someone born with an extra arm (can happen)... or a tail. Again, this doesn't mean that arms or tails are on a spectrum. Nor would reality change with how they feel.

Intersex or folks with extra chromosomes notwithstanding. This is not the same thing as transgender which is all based on how someone feels about themselves. Dysphoria is a real thing, but there is no evidence that it is based in genetics. Comparing someone born with multiple sex organs to someone suffering from Dysphoria is a false comparison.

 

[AProudLefty]

There is a rare genetic defect, just like someone born with an extra arm (can happen)... or a tail. Again, this doesn't mean that arms or tails are on a spectrum. Nor would reality change with how they feel.

Intersex or folks with extra chromosomes notwithstanding. This is not the same thing as transgender which is all based on how someone feels about themselves. Dysphoria is a real thing, but there is no evidence that it is based in genetics. Comparing someone born with multiple sex organs to someone suffering from Dysphoria is a false comparison.

Gender dysphoria is based on society and environment. It's a stress experienced by some transgender people.
Transgenderism is based in genetics.

 

[FastLane]

Gender dysphoria is based on society and environment. It's a stress experienced by some transgender people.
Transgenderism is based in genetics.

You sure have your panties in a wad.

 

[Damocles]

Gender dysphoria is based on society and environment. It's a stress experienced by some transgender people.
Transgenderism is based in genetics.

There is no evidence that transgenderism is based in genetics, there are wishful studies that found "many" different things they believe "could contribute" but they had to be factored with environment and how they were treated, etc.

I am not arguing against transgender people. I am just saying comparing them to intersexual folks and using those rare instances with direct genetic links in a comparison to transgender folks which have no direct genetic link only "multi-factorial" (these possible genetic things coupled with other environmental and societal factors could possibly) relation is not a good comparison.

I support anyone changing anything about themselves to make themselves feel better, if they are adults and do not expect everyone to participate.

Like that cat person earlier... I will not pretend they are a cat. But IMO they absolutely have a right to get that surgery if it makes them feel better about themselves.

 

[AProudLefty]

You sure have your panties in a wad.

What?