All bow to the leader - Rush Linbaugh....

Damocles said:
My last statement on this. I promised Soc that I'll end it.

1. He hopes they'll fail.
2. I reported what he said was why he hopes they fail.

Nothing is changed.
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Fine, leave the argument, the record will speak for itself.

At least you admit Rush hopes they fail, not he knows they will fail.

I never really followed the, "he hopes they will fail, because he know they will fail" argument you attempted.



Personally I hoped Bush's policies would have worked, I thought that they would not.
 
Here are some excerpts from an email exchange between El Rushbo and left-wing blogger Greg Sargent (formerly of Talking Points Memo) concerning what El Rushbo really meant. It adds about as much clarity as you knuckleheads:

After I asked Rush a question about the Michael Steele fight, Rush replied:

[P]lease, Greg, try to stand out from the MSM chorus and NOT distort, as they all are, on behalf of the Obama Admin, my meaning on wanting him to fail. I want the country to SUCCEED, as I have said until I am blue in the face.

I answered:

Rush, if I could ask a follow-up question, if Obama’s policies are designed to help the economy, and those policies fail — as you’ve said you want — doesn’t the economy, and by extention [sic] the country, suffer as a result?

Rush replied:

Obama’s policies are NOT designed to help the economy, and they won’t. That is why I want them to fail. Take a look around, Greg. We have been stimulating and spending for a year now and wealth is vanishing from Wall Street, people are losing jobs and savings. His policies stimulate only government and attack wealth, producers and achievers. Obama’s policies are not new, they are not hope, they are not change. They are page 1 of the standard liberal playbook. Tax and spend. And they have not generated econ recovery or private sector growth in all of history.

I asked:

I understand that you don’t think Obama’s policies are destined to succeed. Reasonable people can disagree about that. However, putting aside the question of what the policies are destined to do, is it true that if they succeed in their stated goal of righting the economy — however far-fetched that may be to you and others — then would that be good for the country?

Or, alternatively put, putting aside the question of what the policies are in your view destined to do, is it true that if they fail in their stated goal of righting the economy, won’t the country suffer further as a result?

Rush answered:

I reject your premise, especially since you are rejecting my answers. I will not put aside the question of what the policies are destined to do because that IS THE POINT.
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http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/u...fix-of-economy-would-be-good-for-the-country/
 
Jarod said:
Fine, leave the argument, the record will speak for itself.

At least you admit Rush hopes they fail, not he knows they will fail.
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Holy Shit, the horse was ridden to a frenzy, it frothed and foamed then fell over, you continued to pound it savagely with your crop only to pulverize it. THEN, it dried up, you smashed the bones to powder, and then sprayed the whole thing down with water, and STILL you continue to dance on it
 
Socrtease said:
Holy Shit, the horse was ridden to a frenzy, it frothed and foamed then fell over, you continued to pound it savagely with your crop only to pulverize it. THEN, it dried up, you smashed the bones to powder, and then sprayed the whole thing down with water, and STILL you continue to dance on it
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LMAO.... nice....
 
Socrtease said:
Holy Shit, the horse was ridden to a frenzy, it frothed and foamed then fell over, you continued to pound it savagely with your crop only to pulverize it. THEN, it dried up, you smashed the bones to powder, and then sprayed the whole thing down with water, and STILL you continue to dance on it
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Well, its fun to win, what can I say.
 
Keep in mind Soc.... he is a lawyer and thus cannot help but pound a point into the ground, put as much spin on his point as he can and still be wrong.
 
Superfreak said:
Keep in mind Soc.... he is a lawyer and thus cannot help but pound a point into the ground, put as much spin on his point as he can and still be wrong.
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No spin from me, I merely went with what Rush said.

He hopes Obama's plans fail.

Damo added the spin... "Hopes" really means "knows"
 
Jarod said:
No spin from me, I merely went with what Rush said.

He hopes Obama's plans fail.

Damo added the spin... "Hopes" really means "knows"
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actually you were wrong and you most certainly were spinning. You clearly do not understand what 'context' means. Now, run along and chase your next ambulance.
 
Darla said:
Cawacko, SF's involved now. What do you think, 300 under or over?
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Haha! I was about to say I feel greedy and want to go for 250 but I like your aggressive thinking. With a little push I think 300 is easily obtainable.
 
Superfreak said:
Translation "I know I was wrong, but being a lawyer, it is not in my nature to admit it. I prefer chasing ambulances, twisting peoples words and pretending that context is irrelevant."
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He wasn't wrong. Damo's "non-defense" defense of Limbaugh's clear & repeated wish for Obama failure has been absurd, even by Damo standards.
 
Mottleydude said:
You're an idiot. Fascism is Stateism/Nationalism taken to the extreme of totalitarianism. Go study some history and come back to debate when you know what you're talking about.
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Your definition doesn't jive with the facts or that published in the credible source that I linked to. Since your defense is to call me an idiot, I can safely assume that you have lost this argument.
 
Jarod said:
Again show me where a Democrat said they "hope" any of Bush's policies will be a failure.
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OIC so you will only be satisfied with the exact phrase. How convenient for you. However the reality is that the Democrats that I quoted claimed Bush a failure along with his policies. Since that was merely their opinions, they obviously hoped that it were true. In fact, as shown by the Rockefeller memo, it was the basis of their strategy.
 
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Onceler said:
He wasn't wrong. Damo's "non-defense" defense of Limbaugh's clear & repeated wish for Obama failure has been absurd, even by Damo standards.
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Actually, you are also wrong. Jarod and all the other kool-aid drinkers simply refuse to look at context. Very similar to McCains 100 years in Iraq comment. Quite sad.
 
Superfreak said:
Actually, you are also wrong. Jarod and all the other kool-aid drinkers simply refuse to look at context. Very similar to McCains 100 years in Iraq comment. Quite sad.
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SF - McCain's comments were taken out of context. Limbaugh's comments are indefensible. He has made no bones about what he would like to see happen.

Go back a few years and think how you'd react if a prominent Democrat said he disagreed w/ pre-emptive war, so he hoped fervently that the war would fail and that more troops would die to prove his point. Or, think if a leading Democratic pundit said that, and all the Dem politicians sucked up to him.

Hypocrite. I'm so done w/ you & Damo on this topic; you've certainly made no secret of your double-standard here.
 
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