All American Muslim?

Pretty tortured interpretation

5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8 This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.

That is not the point.

The point is that someone with a twisted enough belief system and a powerful enough hatred for the non-believers COULD use that verse to justify BURNING non-believers.
 
Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law. Now answer mine. What did Jesus say about fulfilling the Law?

he came to fulfill the law. you state, on the one hand, that 'christian' doctrine is not found in the OT and in the other hand that jesus did not abolish the law. jesus is in the OT, nothing was made without him. i don't understand how you can say there is no 'christianity' in the OT, when the OT contains information about jesus, prophecies about jesus and the fact that nothing was made on this earth without him.
 
This is where even a lot of Christians miss the boat. The scriptures say the law if fulfilled in Jesus and everyone who has Faith in the works of Jesus are saved. The law still judges. If you are not a believer then you are on your own when you stand before God and God judges you according to the law. You're gonna have to be perfect like Jesus and I've got a clue for ya....you ain't gonna make it. Christians will never be judged by the law because they are saved by faith in Jesus Christ. That's what the bible says and I can show you if you need to see it.
 
This is where even a lot of Christians miss the boat. The scriptures say the law if fulfilled in Jesus and everyone who has Faith in the works of Jesus are saved. The law still judges. If you are not a believer then you are on your own when you stand before God and God judges you according to the law. You're gonna have to be perfect like Jesus and I've got a clue for ya....you ain't gonna make it. Christians will never be judged by the law because they are saved by faith in Jesus Christ. That's what the bible says and I can show you if you need to see it.

that does not mean there is no 'christianity' in the OT. christ is in the OT and nothing was made without him.
 
he came to fulfill the law. you state, on the one hand, that 'christian' doctrine is not found in the OT and in the other hand that jesus did not abolish the law. jesus is in the OT, nothing was made without him. i don't understand how you can say there is no 'christianity' in the OT, when the OT contains information about jesus, prophecies about jesus and the fact that nothing was made on this earth without him.

Jesus is in the OT and the OT mentions by prophecy The Church, but the epistles are letters of instruction to The Church. The Church did not come into being until after Jesus rose from the dead and the Holy Spirit was sent on the Day of Pentecost. The Day of Pentecost is the beginning of The Church.
 
That is not the point.

The point is that someone with a twisted enough belief system and a powerful enough hatred for the non-believers COULD use that verse to justify BURNING non-believers.

I can twist verses to make it look like Jesus is telling you to hang yourself, but I know that would be a lie. We don't have to do that with the Koran. There is clear instruction to kill the infidel, chop off the head of the infidel, and much more violence directed at Christians and Jews.

Show us where Jesus ever told his disciples or followers to do that crap.
 

Riiiiiiiiiiight...that's why Christians are always trying to get the 10 Commandments displayed in public places where everyone can read them.

...the 10 Commandments are a part of the very heart of Christian doctrine.

Your desperate need to be right all the time has got you lying to cover your lies.
 
Jesus is in the OT and the OT mentions by prophecy The Church, but the epistles are letters of instruction to The Church. The Church did not come into being until after Jesus rose from the dead and the Holy Spirit was sent on the Day of Pentecost. The Day of Pentecost is the beginning of The Church.

christianity is just a word. the "church" is not a word. the "church" existed in the OT. who is the 'son of man'? who did daniel see in the lion's den?
 
Riiiiiiiiiiight...the 10 Commandments are so unimportant...that's why Christians are always trying to get them displayed in public places where everyone can read them.

...the 10 Commandments are a part of the very heart of Christian doctrine.

Your desperate need to be right all the time has got you lying to cover your lies.

your christian hatred has soiled your mind. not all christians want the 10 commandments displayed. knock off the hate.
 
Riiiiiiiiiiight...the 10 Commandments are so unimportant...that's why Christians are always trying to get them displayed in public places where everyone can read them.

...the 10 Commandments are a part of the very heart of Christian doctrine.

Your desperate need to be right all the time has got you lying to cover your lies.

According to Christian Scripture I'm right and you're wrong.

Ephesians 2:15 By abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

Hebrews 8:13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

Romans 10:4 Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

Romans 7:6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
 
I can twist verses to make it look like Jesus is telling you to hang yourself, but I know that would be a lie. We don't have to do that with the Koran. There is clear instruction to kill the infidel, chop off the head of the infidel, and much more violence directed at Christians and Jews.

Show us where Jesus ever told his disciples or followers to do that crap.

Right...you YOURSELF have translated every single word of the Koran on your own?

How many years did you spend studying dead languages to prepare you for the job of translating it?

Otherwise you can't make ANY claims about the Koran and what it says.
 
christianity is just a word. the "church" is not a word. the "church" existed in the OT. who is the 'son of man'? who did daniel see in the lion's den?

The "Church" was birthed on the Day of Pentecost 40 days after Jesus ascended to Heaven. If that was not the birth of the Christian Church, then what was it?
 
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