Algerian Olympian withdraws from Games due to potential matchup with Israeli competit

Diesel said:
"It is not the first time that Nourine has withdrawn from competition to avoid facing an Israeli opponent. He pulled out of the 2019 world championships in Tokyo for the same reason.

"Other athletes from countries who do not recognize Israel have previously withdrawn from competing in sports against Israeli opponents."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/24/sport/algerian-olympian-withdrawal-israel-intl/index.html

I can't offhand calculate the odds of the Algerian contestant facing the Israeli contestant, but they would seem decent to me. So I think it is incredibly selfish of an athlete to take an Olympic slot, to pledge to represent his country, and then to quit.

The political situation of Israel is a different issue, but this man should not be allowed to professionally compete anymore.
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You make a valid point re. taking a spot from someone else. People train all of their lives for this. Barely missing a spot on the team is a grave disappointment.

If he has an issue with Israel, he could always make a statement if the matchup occurs. It's freekin judo. Beat the guy's ass, unless you're chicken.
 
Diesel said:
Apparently. So why take one of your country's seats to the Olympics and then forfeit it? Why not just boycott the Olympics because they let Israel participate? I'm disappointed that he quit. Most people do not like quitters.
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If it's swimming, I almost see the guy's point. Notwithstanding the issue of taking a slot.


It's hand to hand combat. Take out your frustrations on the guy if you draw him.

I think he was just afraid of losing.
 
Grumpy said:
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Hmmm ... now let me see ...

Is the quitter making a political statement ???

Is the quitter making a religious statement ???

Is the quitter afraid of getting a can of DelMonte whup-ass poured over him ???

Since there is no difference between politics and religion in muzzieism ... it's gotta be that he is an outright COWARD.
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This one
 
moon said:
My take. If you're going to oppose Izraeli fascism, racism and criminality - which we all should- then you should boycott all things Izraeli, trade, academia, sports, whatever. Like the sanctions that the US imposes left, right and center around the world ( but not in Izrael ) the reasoning is that this will generate change from within. In a fair and just world the Olympic Committee wouldn't have entertained any Izraeli entries and athletes would not be put in the position of this competitor . He has refused to sacrifice his moral judgement. So should we all. While the world is watching Izraelis perform in Tokyo, back in Palestine they are killing Palestinians, shooting them with live fire, throwing stun-grenades into their places of worship, burning their crops, spraying sewage into their homes. The only visible punishment we see for these atrocities is a denial of Ben&Jerry's ice-cream service.
In short, you're either with fascsim, racism and criminality or you're against. There isn't any middle ground, although moral cowards claim that there is.

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All valid points. So qualify at home, and make a statement that you are boycotting the Olympics. If your nation isn't boycotting, then you can make a statement and allow a fellow teammate to go in your place.
 
King Kielbasa said:
Honestly Israel isn't Apartheid.
It's a lot worse than that.
It's more akin to ethnic cleansing Colonialism.
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I've went to Poland about fifteeen times in the 90's on business, whereas you've never been. One thing that struck me vividly was the blatant ant-Semitism at the time, seemingly that's the case even today at least amongst the Polish American diaspora.
 
Althea said:
You make a valid point re. taking a spot from someone else. People train all of their lives for this. Barely missing a spot on the team is a grave disappointment.

If he has an issue with Israel, he could always make a statement if the matchup occurs. It's freekin judo. Beat the guy's ass, unless you're chicken.
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That's what I'm saying! The guy is a beast and a world class athlete. He should have faced his competitor and fed him his ass. But he quit his entire country from the Olympics. Weak sauce.
 
Althea said:
If it's swimming, I almost see the guy's point. Notwithstanding the issue of taking a slot.


It's hand to hand combat. Take out your frustrations on the guy if you draw him.

I think he was just afraid of losing.
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I think he was making a political statement that has gotten a lot of attention. But he shouldn't be allowed to professionally compete anymore. A quitter doesn't belong in real championships.
 
Primavera said:
I've went to Poland about fifteeen times in the 90's on business, whereas you've never been. One thing that struck me vividly was the blatant ant-Semitism at the time, seemingly that's the case even today at least amongst the Polish American diaspora.
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Kielbasa is the biggest anti-Semite in this forum. He's also a confused white American boy who sloppily tries to identify with Poland because he doesn't have an actual identity. He's a fraud and a terrible racist.
 
moon said:
I've just followed up on maggot's lies. Most of the hostages of the Munich massacre were inadvertently killed by the ' rescuers ' and no ' castrations ' took place at all. Prosemitic falsehoods by a serial liar and racist. The hostage-takers wanted the release of hundreds of tortured Palestinians from Izrael's dungeons and named their operation after the villages razed by the Jewish terror groups, Irgun, Lehi and Haganah. The Palestinians never started the hostilities with the invading European Zionists and all their actions have been in response to Izraeli atrocities- including the Munich hostage-taking.
Still- that was in 1972. Today, as a result of continued Palestinian resistance, the United Nations and 138 countries recognize the Palestinian state. Today's Neo-Zionists are as brutal as the Nazis who persecuted their grandparents.
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I watched those Olympics. None of what he said took place.
 
Diesel said:
I think he was making a political statement that has gotten a lot of attention. But he shouldn't be allowed to professionally compete anymore. A quitter doesn't belong in real championships.
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His actions screwed up the entire tournament board
 
Primavera said:
Is there any point when you realise that you're wrong Moonshi'ite? The castration of weightlifter Yossef Romano was 100% factual and your attempt to deny it is truly fucking pathetic. Even your erstwhile supporters are standing back, no doubt horrified by your defence of the indefensible.



https://www.history.com/topics/1970s/munich-massacre-olympics
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maggot- you're a gullible, hasbara -soaked fool, typical of the twats who would believe that sneaky hostage-takers , under cover of darkness, would quietly castrate a victim before making their escape.


Haw, haw................................haw.

Still- I'm not going to bother any further with your ' according to the associated press ' tripe. You can fuck off with it. Today, after many thousands of men , women and children have been brutally murdered by fascist Izraeli racists, Palestine is recognized by the UN and 138 countries . This is due to the Palestinians' resolve to continue to resist their own extinction by whatever means available to them at the time.
Moral of the story ? Don't brutalize and then whine about being brutalized yourself.
 
Diesel said:
There was always a (good) chance that the cute Algerian would meet the Israeli, you ignorant cunt. He's a coward and you are too. Treat me as a troll.
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Self-declared. You're going to need more than a potty mouth.
 
Diesel said:
There was always a (good) chance that the cute Algerian would meet the Israeli,
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Again, dumbass, either one could have been eliminated before the probability of being paired arose . As I said, you're not too bright.
 
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