The Hebrew means do not "tear apart/kill." It would be used to describe a butcher, murder, executioner, or even soldier.
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The Hebrew means do not "tear apart/kill." It would be used to describe a butcher, murder, executioner, or even soldier.
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Bullets were silver. The black man was a responsible gun owner until then.
So ancient Jews were vegetarians?
Jade Dragon
And I'm the one that jaded you.
No, they ate meat.
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No they followed the laws of kashrut and a specified way to kill an animal that is kosher to begin with
Kosher slaughter is performed by a qualified butcher (known as a shochet) and involves continuous cutting of the esophagus and blood vessels using a special sharp chalef knife, with the length of the straight blade being at least twice the diameter of the animal's neck
NO Hunting
https://oukosher.org/blog/news/setting-the-record-straight-on-kosher-slaughter/
A Kosher animal
Kosher Animals by Category
Only those with cloven hoof and that chew their cuds, such as oxen, sheep, goats, deer, gazelles, roebuck, wild goats, ibex, antelopes, and mountain sheep. Pigs — the best-known non-kosher mammal — are not kosher because they do not chew their cuds.
kashruth
https://www.britannica.com/topic/kashruth
Jews observing kashruth may eat only those fish that have both fins and scales (i.e., not shellfish), certain birds, and mammals that chew the cud and have cloven feet. These mammals and birds must be slaughtered according to a ritual that, if violated, makes the meat “unfit” for use. Food ritually unfit, for whatever reason, is called “forbidden” (terefah), the opposite of kosher (“fit,” or “proper”). Because animal blood may not be eaten, meat must undergo a ritual process of presoaking and “salting” (meliḥa) to draw off any blood that may remain within the meat after the ritual slaughter (shehitah).
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In violation of the Commandment?
Understood. The confusion is over the meaning of the Commandment "Thou shalt not kill". Does it mean don't kill or don't murder? Something else?
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We call them to ten guides which points to our 613 commandments (mitvahs) 248 Positive Commandments (do's) and 365 Negative Commandments (do not's).
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/756399/jewish/The-613-Commandments-Mitzvot.htm
Bottom line; is it about murder or killing living things?
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The commandment is: do not MURDER the xtians put that killing in their copying
In biblical Hebrew, as in English, killing (harag) and murder (ratzah) are two different words with two very different moral connotations, and the commandment uses the Hebrew word ratzah, which means that the proper translation of the commandment from Hebrew into English is, "Thou shalt not murder."
Unfortunately, tho shall not kill translation is profoundly and radically incorrect.
In biblical Hebrew, as in English, killing (harag) and murder (ratzah) are two different words with two very different moral connotations, and the commandment uses the Hebrew word ratzah, which means that the proper translation of the commandment from Hebrew into English is, “Thou shalt not murder.”
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Jade Dragon
And I'm the one that jaded you.
I think Guno answered pretty well. The commandment means don't kill other people or needlessly butcher animals, despite the confusing wording.
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Murder , if one is attacked killing is ok or the death penalty ok , the Talmud has discussions on this subject
Torah it's self makes distinction between murder, killing
https://tjpnews.com/torah-makes-distinction-between-murder-killing/
https://www.sefaria.org/Exodus.20.14?lang=bi&with=Talmud&lang2=en
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Agreed. This is exactly my point earlier.
I'm good with "needlessly" and, when killing, to do it humanely.
I've often wondered if the kosher rules were put in place to protect the people from food-borne illnesses. Is there any historical evidence for that?
That's my theory. Sure, such rules can evolve overtime, but it's pretty easy to see how the village shaman would be the collector of dietary knowledge on what foods are safe and which are not. Trichonosis in areas lacking antibiotics is deadly. Eating shellfish spoiled due to a lack of refrigeration would also be deadly.
Simple people need simple rules and the dietary restrictions of the OT were not only pretty simple, but, AFAIK, medically sound considering the tech at the time.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Tribal people didn't need a dietary overseer to manage their food, you establishment dumbass. Their diet was- and is- as a result of millennia of tribal wisdom passed to children by parents.
Now, shaman's purple penis pumps would be more your line of expertise;
Doc Dutch
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The ' kosher ' diktat is simply another form of religious control. 'Thou shalt eat and drink what I fucking tell you to eat and drink or thou shalt be cast out of the sect '
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Exactly my point, my little Moonbeam. Note that, at some point, that wisdom was written down. According to the Abrahamic religions, it was written down by Moses.
moon
Satire for Sanity
No, you mendacious dumbass- YOUR point was that tribal diet had an overseer. It's right there in post 257.
You must think in a vacuum.
Haw, haw...................................haw.
Doc Dutch
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