ADHD doesn't exist and drugs do more harm than good

iolo said:
As seen over here, it is largely a problem of boys being boys.
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Like I said man, you (others) not believing it doesn't bother me. I know what I've gone through and how it's affected me and the difference medication has made.
 
cawacko said:
Like I said man, you (others) not believing it doesn't bother me. I know what I've gone through and how it's affected me and the difference medication has made.
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If you got any good out of it, I am pleased, but that doesn't mean everyone should be so treated, surely? People differ hugely, and I know that my teachers would have had me drugged up to the eyeballs if they could have got away with it - and I might have made, if I were very lucky, a low-level prison guard. It takes all sorts, Cawacko!
 
iolo said:
If you got any good out of it, I am pleased, but that doesn't mean everyone should be so treated, surely? People differ hugely, and I know that my teachers would have had me drugged up to the eyeballs if they could have got away with it - and I might have made, if I were very lucky, a low-level prison guard. It takes all sorts, Cawacko!
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iolo, please re-read what I wrote in my first post. "Now I realize there are many hyper (normal) kids who instantly get diagnosed with ADHD and are put on medication to try and calm them down and that over diagnosis seems to be a problem. But to say it doesn't exist?"

I said I have it. I said I take medication. I said it's helped me. I also said it runs in my family. I have NOT said to diagnose and drug all hyper little children.
 
cawacko said:
iolo, please re-read what I wrote in my first post. "Now I realize there are many hyper (normal) kids who instantly get diagnosed with ADHD and are put on medication to try and calm them down and that over diagnosis seems to be a problem. But to say it doesn't exist?"

I said I have it. I said I take medication. I said it's helped me. I also said it runs in my family. I have NOT said to diagnose and drug all hyper little children.
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It is a doctor with fifty years of experience saying that ADHD doesn't exist, it is a conclusion he has come to slowly over the years.

http://www.harpercollins.com/books/Adhd-Does-Not-Exist-Richard-Saul/?isbn=9780062266736
 
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Abraxas said:
It is a doctor with fity years of experience saying that ADHD doesn't exist, it is a conclusion he has come to slowly over the years.
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Does that mean others who have done research over x number of years and believe it exists are all wrong because this gentleman says it doesn't exist?
 
cawacko said:
Does that mean others who have done research over x number of years and believe it exists are all wrong because this gentleman says it doesn't exist?
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Maybe, maybe not, his views do demand some attention though. Something that you seem to have a deficit of, according to your own testimony.
 
Abraxas said:
Maybe, maybe not, his views do demand some attention though. Something that you seem to have a deficit of, according to your own testimony.
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Based on this guy should I say I really don't have ADD and I should stop taking medication?
 
Abraxas said:
No, if it works for you then fine. Of course there could be a placebo effect going on there but whatever works for you.
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I'm 41 years old. I went 22 years without taking medication and it was a struggle. I started taking it and it made a world of difference. I stopped at one point and it went back to how it was before.

I'm not arguing about other kids and whether they have it and I don't mean this personally towards you at all but I don't really give a shit what this doctor has to say. I've seen the changes it helped me with and so did my family when I started taking the medication.
 
cawacko said:
I'm 41 years old. I went 22 years without taking medication and it was a struggle. I started taking it and it made a world of difference. I stopped at one point and it went back to how it was before.

I'm not arguing about other kids and whether they have it and I don't mean this personally towards you at all but I don't really give a shit what this doctor has to say. I've seen the changes it helped me with and so did my family when I started taking the medication.
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What medicine do you take for it?
 
Abraxas said:
  • After 50 years in practice Dr Saul says there is no such thing as ADHD
  • Improving your diet, exercising and sleeping more can alleviate symptoms
By Dr Richard Saul


PUBLISHED: 00:26, 11 March 2014 | UPDATED: 08:23, 11 March 2014

Distracted, fidgeting and squirming in his seat, the 13-year-old boy in my consulting room was exhibiting all the classic signs of an attention disorder. His desperate mother hoped that I could do something for her son, who had become sluggish and unfocused at school, did not seem to care that his academic performance was declining, and claimed to feel 'too tired' for sport, which he used to enjoy. He had been diagnosed with ADHD - Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder - and been taking medication for a year but, to the despair of his teachers and mother, his behaviour had not improved at all.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ine-causes-drugs-harm-good.html#ixzz2veUVfRst
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Wow, a single doctor. Not even a university doctor, just a generic physician, out of millions of generic physicians. That's a golden standard of evidence.
 
Abraxas said:
What medicine do you take for it?
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Right now I take Effexor and Concerta. I will admit I'm basically physically addicted to Effexor. It sucks. My body goes through withdrawals if I go more than two days without it.

I took Dexedrine when I was younger. I tried Adderall before and had a horrible reaction to it.
 
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