TuTu Monroe
A Realist
WHY???
Acorn - We Have No Shame
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WHY???
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Leave it to Blabba to ressurect a LONG disproven campaign ploy by the defeated McCain. Every distortion and exaggeration was disproved DURING THE CAMPAIGN. But like all insipidly stubborn neocon dupes, Blabba just can't accept reality. Fortunately, there are those that do:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/acorn_accusations.html
YOU LOST...THE PEOPLE WEREN'T BUYING INTO THE BS. GROW UP AND DEAL WITH IT.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Poor Annie, still sucking on the Fox Noise teat, which is giving out OLD campaign distortions.
Get up to speed, Annie, and stop wasting space on this BS
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/acorn_accusations.html
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Wake up Annie. This dog & pony show was closed down LONG ago, insipid stubborness on the defeated neocon's part non-withstanding:
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Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
LOL.
snarky and the last word there, TL... Good job!
Sorry, but when countering neocon BS, one's response inevitably has to use unflattering descriptive language. My motto (to paraphrase the late, great James Brown), "Don't start none, won't be none!
apple0154
MEOW
Obama is not going along with the wrong. Try and understand what happened.
Bush's policy encouraged some Afghans and Iraqis to turn against other Afghans and Iraqis promising the first group the US would protect them and, ultimately, win the war so their their side, the first group, would be in charge. Unfortunately, the first group is small, lazy and inept.
After 8 years for Afghanistan and 6 or 7 years for Iraq we see the general population is not on the side of the first group or, if they are, they're either unwilling or unable to fight. So, what do we do?
Simply stated we interfered where we shouldn't have. We should have gone after Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and got out instead of trying to change the political systems in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
If we simply pull out and abandon the first group should we ever get involved in a "decent war" in another country the population may not be willing to join our side fearing we will throw them under the bus at our whim.
That, in a nut shell, is the problem. So, Obama is studying the situation and before sending additional troops he wants to know the exit plan. More troops. Less troops. Do we further embolden the first group and then just walk away? A strategy, by the way, that was done in the past.
Both the Afghans and the Iraqis need to know we're leaving. The idea our leaving will embolden the Taliban/terrorists is unfortunate but that's the price we pay for Bush's blunder.
If the Taliban become a threat to the US we simply go back there and bomb the hell out of them. Make it clear to the Afghans and Iraqis that if they can't run their country, if they can't keep an eye on their government, if we have to come back, it will be their worst nightmare.
Tell them that if they let their country be overtaken by people who will harm the US or US allies due to their fear of the Taliban they best consider the consequences if we come back.
Tell them if they're scared of the Taliban going house to house shooting people and raping people and cutting off heads they better realize that if we come back we'll blow up neighborhood after neighborhood.
Tell them we'll level cities. And then wish them well and say, "Goodbye".
apple0154
MEOW
Why World War III? If Iran attacks any country the US has enough fire power to end the skirmish immediately.
World wars require a number of countries on both sides such as WW II involved Germany, Italy, Japan, etc. against a number of countries.
TuTu Monroe
A Realist
How long do you think Israel will wait since the mad-man never stops saying Iran wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth? Not long, I would think. Don't be so sure of yourself. I noticed Obama was especially tough on Israel in his UN speech and favored the Palestinians, you know the people who clapped with joy, when 9/11 happened.
apple0154
MEOW
What are you implying?
If Israel bombs Iran then I suppose that will put an end to Iran unless Iran has weapons we don't know about in which case if Israel does a preemptive strike all we can say is, "Wrong guess".
As I believe Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the rest of the world realizes it was the fear of mutual destruction, the cold war, that saved us all.
Anyway, how do you get a world war out of Israel and Iran? Who would be fighting, along with Iran, that has WMD?
Cancel 2018. 3
<-- sched 2, MJ sched 1
so do you believe everyone has a right to own nukes....to avoid mutual destruction?
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
DC was safe and clean during the TEA party event of 1.7 million people, so the police and Fire departments didn't have to do a thing. Not like it was during your typical liberal march.Tell it to the local police and fire dept. You know, the people who's profession is to assess such things in case an emergency occurs. They've got different take than your neocon sources. Of course, that would require you to actually pay attention to news sources outside your usual scope...so this could be a challenge for you.
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apple0154
MEOW
I believe no one should own nukes and it appears Obama is trying to start a de-nuke program.
However, Obama is not going to be President for eternity so who is to say another Bush, or worse, will not come along? What assurances do countries have that they will not be invaded like Iraq was? Whether the Iraq invasion was due to faulty intelligence is of little importance. Today, people say the invasion and getting rid of Saddam was good, regardless. The same attitude goes for the leaders of Iran and North Korea.
Can anyone fault them for wanting to protect themselves? They haven't the strength to dominate the world. What else other than protection would their weapons be useful for? All they could do is extract revenge if attacked. They are not a threat to the world. Having nuclear weapons does not make them a super power. All it does is tell the world not to interfere with them.
Again, instead of trying to police the world all the US and it's allies have to do is let the populations of those countries know that if they do not police their governments they will be obliterated. They have a choice. Either take the chance of being killed by confronting their government or suffer certain death if their government pulls a no-no. And it won't be just them being killed. It will be their families and their friends and their neighbors and their entire community.
One aggressive act will result in complete and total destruction. The full force of the US and it's allies will be brought to bear upon them. Their entire nation will be wiped from the face of the earth.
Let it be known it is the responsibility of the citizens of their respective countries to keep their governments in line.
It's time to put an end to the systematic slaughter of our youth. No more 18 year old "boots on the ground". It will be hell from the skies.
One aggressive act and total destruction. The end.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
no one will totally 'de-nuke' once they have it....that's why it's so important to stop Iran BEFORE they have it.....
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Tell it to the local police and fire dept. You know, the people who's profession is to assess such things in case an emergency occurs. They've got different take than your neocon sources. Of course, that would require you to actually pay attention to news sources outside your usual scope...so this could be a challenge for you.
So you REFUSE to check with the DC fire or police dept. as to what they determined were the actual numbers to for the Freedomworks zombie teabagger follies? Yeah, typical neocon BS.....too much of a coward to face the truth....you failed the challenge.
A spokesman for D.C. Fire and Emergency Medical Services estimated the crowd at "in excess of 75,000" people. Local and federal law enforcement authorities don't provide crowd estimates.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125276685577405975.html?mod=rss_Today's_Most_Popular
Tell it to the local police and fire dept. You know, the people who's profession is to assess such things in case an emergency occurs. They've got different take than your neocon sources. Of course, that would require you to actually pay attention to news sources outside your usual scope...so this could be a challenge for you.
DC was safe and clean during the TEA party event of 1.7 million people, so the police and Fire departments didn't have to do a thing. Not like it was during your typical liberal march.
So you REFUSE to check with the DC fire or police dept. as to what they determined were the actual numbers to for the Freedomworks zombie teabagger follies? Yeah, typical neocon BS.....too much of a coward to face the truth....you failed the challenge.
A spokesman for D.C. Fire and Emergency Medical Services estimated the crowd at "in excess of 75,000" people. Local and federal law enforcement authorities don't provide crowd estimates.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125276685577405975.html?mod=rss_Today's_Most_Popular
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Where's the science behind this count of yours?
Taichiliberal
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Where's your science? Hell, you didn't even know or acknowledge what the article here states. Go ask the DC fire dept. and their Emergency Medical Services....I am SO tired of doing your homework for you. If you can prove them wrong, then you may have a case, but remember what the article stated.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
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Where's yours?
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Ask them, if you dare...THEY are the experts, not me (or you)
http://app.dc.gov/apps/about.asp?pa...er=fems.dc.gov&agency_id=1026&femsNav=*31507*
That's all the homework I'll do for you. Let me know what you find...and be honest for once.
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DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Why would I ask them? You're the one who brought them up. It's not my homework, but yours.
The importance of science escape liberals unless that are talking about religion. LOL
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
You're such a coward, Southie. I provide proof and YOU doubt the source. So I give you the tools to either validate or refute your declared doubt. It is YOU that is calling the DC Fire Dept and the Wall St. Journal liars, not me.
Laugh, clown, laugh.