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Report: ACORN Embezzlement Totaled $5M

BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) ―An internal review by ACORN's board of directors found that $5 million was embezzled from the community organization, far more than a previously reported sum of $1 million, according to documents from the Louisiana attorney general's office.

The new amount was reported in a subpoena released Monday from an investigation by Attorney General Buddy Caldwell, The (New Orleans) Times-Picayune reported in Tuesday's editions. It is unclear if the money was taken from state, federal or private funds, according to the subpoena.

ACORN Chief Executive Officer Bertha Lewis said the new embezzlement allegation is "completely false." She said she would comment further after she and ACORN attorneys have a chance to review the subpoena.

Caldwell issued subpoenas in August seeking documents related to ACORN International then-President Wade Rathke and his brother, Dale Rathke, who kept the group's books. Those subpoenas targeted possible violations of state employee tax law, obstruction of justice and violations of the Employee Retirement Security Act.

The attorney general made inquiries in June into alleged embezzlement within ACORN that happened 10 years ago. The group last year dealt with an internal dispute and a lawsuit involving accusations that Dale Rathke made nearly $1 million in improper credit card charges in 1999 and 2000. Rathke's brother and a donor repaid the money.

But Caldwell said last month that the statute of limitations prevented prosecutors from taking action on the alleged embezzlement, and that his investigation was not focused on that issue.

The subpoena issued Monday puts a new emphasis on the embezzlement issue. It appears to be in reaction to documents gathered from ACORN's board as a result of the subpoenas issued in August.

"Current high ranking members of ACORN have publicly acknowledged that embezzlement did in fact occur, but the exact amount of the embezzlement was unknown until it was recently acknowledged in a board of directors meeting on Oct. 17, 2008, by Bertha Lewis and Liz Wolf that an internal review had determined that the amount embezzled was $5 million," the new subpoena says.

The subpoena requests documents from Citizens Consulting Inc., which assisted ACORN, and from various accounting and legal consultants in New Orleans.

Wade Rathke could not be reached immediately for comment.


http://cbs2.com/politics/acorn.embezzlement.five.2.1230513.html



:lol:

The hits keep on coming...
 
webbway said:
Report: ACORN Embezzlement Totaled $5M

BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) ―An internal review by ACORN's board of directors found that $5 million was embezzled from the community organization, far more than a previously reported sum of $1 million, according to documents from the Louisiana attorney general's office.

The new amount was reported in a subpoena released Monday from an investigation by Attorney General Buddy Caldwell, The (New Orleans) Times-Picayune reported in Tuesday's editions. It is unclear if the money was taken from state, federal or private funds, according to the subpoena.

ACORN Chief Executive Officer Bertha Lewis said the new embezzlement allegation is "completely false." She said she would comment further after she and ACORN attorneys have a chance to review the subpoena.

Caldwell issued subpoenas in August seeking documents related to ACORN International then-President Wade Rathke and his brother, Dale Rathke, who kept the group's books. Those subpoenas targeted possible violations of state employee tax law, obstruction of justice and violations of the Employee Retirement Security Act.

The attorney general made inquiries in June into alleged embezzlement within ACORN that happened 10 years ago. The group last year dealt with an internal dispute and a lawsuit involving accusations that Dale Rathke made nearly $1 million in improper credit card charges in 1999 and 2000. Rathke's brother and a donor repaid the money.

But Caldwell said last month that the statute of limitations prevented prosecutors from taking action on the alleged embezzlement, and that his investigation was not focused on that issue.

The subpoena issued Monday puts a new emphasis on the embezzlement issue. It appears to be in reaction to documents gathered from ACORN's board as a result of the subpoenas issued in August.

"Current high ranking members of ACORN have publicly acknowledged that embezzlement did in fact occur, but the exact amount of the embezzlement was unknown until it was recently acknowledged in a board of directors meeting on Oct. 17, 2008, by Bertha Lewis and Liz Wolf that an internal review had determined that the amount embezzled was $5 million," the new subpoena says.

The subpoena requests documents from Citizens Consulting Inc., which assisted ACORN, and from various accounting and legal consultants in New Orleans.

Wade Rathke could not be reached immediately for comment.


http://cbs2.com/politics/acorn.embezzlement.five.2.1230513.html



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The hits keep on coming...
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BFD. KBR steals more than that every day, asnd the health insurance industry steals that much from its customers every 3 1/2 days. So
ACORN is alleged to have embezzled $5M. I'll bet it's a set up, just like every other bogus charge the right hasa hung on therm. You know what their biggest crime was? They registered enough poor voters to run most of the cheating, thieving, lying, family-values-preaching-mistress-fucking, election-stealing, pervert-laden GOP hypocrites out of town. Remember David Iglesias? The hotshot US Attorney, who while a Navy JAG lawyer inspired the movie A Few Good Men (he was Tom Cruse's character)? Remember him? He was fired as a US Attorney, because he refused to take part in the political witch hunt that is the persecution of ACORN.

Give it a rest.
 
webbway said:
Report: ACORN Embezzlement Totaled $5M

BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) ―An internal review by ACORN's board of directors found that $5 million was embezzled from the community organization, far more than a previously reported sum of $1 million, according to documents from the Louisiana attorney general's office.

The new amount was reported in a subpoena released Monday from an investigation by Attorney General Buddy Caldwell, The (New Orleans) Times-Picayune reported in Tuesday's editions. It is unclear if the money was taken from state, federal or private funds, according to the subpoena.

ACORN Chief Executive Officer Bertha Lewis said the new embezzlement allegation is "completely false." She said she would comment further after she and ACORN attorneys have a chance to review the subpoena.

Caldwell issued subpoenas in August seeking documents related to ACORN International then-President Wade Rathke and his brother, Dale Rathke, who kept the group's books. Those subpoenas targeted possible violations of state employee tax law, obstruction of justice and violations of the Employee Retirement Security Act.

The attorney general made inquiries in June into alleged embezzlement within ACORN that happened 10 years ago. The group last year dealt with an internal dispute and a lawsuit involving accusations that Dale Rathke made nearly $1 million in improper credit card charges in 1999 and 2000. Rathke's brother and a donor repaid the money.

But Caldwell said last month that the statute of limitations prevented prosecutors from taking action on the alleged embezzlement, and that his investigation was not focused on that issue.

The subpoena issued Monday puts a new emphasis on the embezzlement issue. It appears to be in reaction to documents gathered from ACORN's board as a result of the subpoenas issued in August.

"Current high ranking members of ACORN have publicly acknowledged that embezzlement did in fact occur, but the exact amount of the embezzlement was unknown until it was recently acknowledged in a board of directors meeting on Oct. 17, 2008, by Bertha Lewis and Liz Wolf that an internal review had determined that the amount embezzled was $5 million," the new subpoena says.

The subpoena requests documents from Citizens Consulting Inc., which assisted ACORN, and from various accounting and legal consultants in New Orleans.

Wade Rathke could not be reached immediately for comment.


http://cbs2.com/politics/acorn.embezzlement.five.2.1230513.html



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Yeah, Wade Rathke admitted in an interview that his brother had embezzled the money, but he didn't turn him in. This organization is toast and good riddance to them.
 
TuTu Monroe said:
Yeah, Wade Rathke admitted in an interview that his brother had embezzled the money, but he didn't turn him in. This organization is toast and good riddance to them.
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Only one problem: the bill defunding them is what is known as a bill of attainder. and as such is unconstitutional under Article I, Section 9, to wit: No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

My bet is that the Dems who voted for that bill knew it was unconstitutional, but voted for it to give them political cover, which is spineless, but at least they're not retarded like the GOP, who are under the impression that Article II, Section 2 supercedes Article I in its entirety, as well as Article II, sections 3 & 4, as if the founders, who fought a war to free themselves from the dictates and whims of an absolute ruler, in order to govern them selves with an elected representative body called Congress, which they took great pains to delineate in the large, comprehensive Article I, and then throw all that away in favor of a "Unitary Executive." Yeah, right. That's why when the lady asked Ben Franklin what kind of government they gave us, he replied, 'A republic, madam, if you can keep it." Yeah, he was thinking about the day in the future when some assholes whose ancestors were on the side of the aristocracy, and who NEVER WOULD ACCEPT the ideal of the common man (and woman) were capable of self-governance, and had to be told what to do by the wealthy, because they are naturally superior by dint of their wealth, and any measure that aims to decrease that wealth is class warfare, created by jealousy of the superiority of the wealthy, and a bull-headed refusal to admit their betters, and accord therm their inborne right to rule by fiat.

But ACORN is the problem.

Right

Fatheads
 
webbway said:
Report: ACORN Embezzlement Totaled $5M

BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) ―An internal review by ACORN's board of directors found that $5 million was embezzled from the community organization, far more than a previously reported sum of $1 million, according to documents from the Louisiana attorney general's office.

The new amount was reported in a subpoena released Monday from an investigation by Attorney General Buddy Caldwell, The (New Orleans) Times-Picayune reported in Tuesday's editions. It is unclear if the money was taken from state, federal or private funds, according to the subpoena.

ACORN Chief Executive Officer Bertha Lewis said the new embezzlement allegation is "completely false." She said she would comment further after she and ACORN attorneys have a chance to review the subpoena.

Caldwell issued subpoenas in August seeking documents related to ACORN International then-President Wade Rathke and his brother, Dale Rathke, who kept the group's books. Those subpoenas targeted possible violations of state employee tax law, obstruction of justice and violations of the Employee Retirement Security Act.

The attorney general made inquiries in June into alleged embezzlement within ACORN that happened 10 years ago. The group last year dealt with an internal dispute and a lawsuit involving accusations that Dale Rathke made nearly $1 million in improper credit card charges in 1999 and 2000. Rathke's brother and a donor repaid the money.

But Caldwell said last month that the statute of limitations prevented prosecutors from taking action on the alleged embezzlement, and that his investigation was not focused on that issue.

The subpoena issued Monday puts a new emphasis on the embezzlement issue. It appears to be in reaction to documents gathered from ACORN's board as a result of the subpoenas issued in August.

"Current high ranking members of ACORN have publicly acknowledged that embezzlement did in fact occur, but the exact amount of the embezzlement was unknown until it was recently acknowledged in a board of directors meeting on Oct. 17, 2008, by Bertha Lewis and Liz Wolf that an internal review had determined that the amount embezzled was $5 million," the new subpoena says.

The subpoena requests documents from Citizens Consulting Inc., which assisted ACORN, and from various accounting and legal consultants in New Orleans.

Wade Rathke could not be reached immediately for comment.


http://cbs2.com/politics/acorn.embezzlement.five.2.1230513.html



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The hits keep on coming...
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Indeed and noted previously:

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?t=21760&highlight=ACORN
 
zoombwaz said:
BFD. KBR steals more than that every day, asnd the health insurance industry steals that much from its customers every 3 1/2 days. So
ACORN is alleged to have embezzled $5M. I'll bet it's a set up, just like every other bogus charge the right hasa hung on therm. You know what their biggest crime was? They registered enough poor voters to run most of the cheating, thieving, lying, family-values-preaching-mistress-fucking, election-stealing, pervert-laden GOP hypocrites out of town. Remember David Iglesias? The hotshot US Attorney, who while a Navy JAG lawyer inspired the movie A Few Good Men (he was Tom Cruse's character)? Remember him? He was fired as a US Attorney, because he refused to take part in the political witch hunt that is the persecution of ACORN.

Give it a rest.
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i see....so because others steal it is ok for ACORN to steal.....:rolleyes:
 
zoombwaz said:
Only one problem: the bill defunding them is what is known as a bill of attainder. and as such is unconstitutional under Article I, Section 9, to wit: No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

My bet is that the Dems who voted for that bill knew it was unconstitutional, but voted for it to give them political cover, which is spineless, but at least they're not retarded like the GOP, who are under the impression that Article II, Section 2 supercedes Article I in its entirety, as well as Article II, sections 3 & 4, as if the founders, who fought a war to free themselves from the dictates and whims of an absolute ruler, in order to govern them selves with an elected representative body called Congress, which they took great pains to delineate in the large, comprehensive Article I, and then throw all that away in favor of a "Unitary Executive." Yeah, right. That's why when the lady asked Ben Franklin what kind of government they gave us, he replied, 'A republic, madam, if you can keep it." Yeah, he was thinking about the day in the future when some assholes whose ancestors were on the side of the aristocracy, and who NEVER WOULD ACCEPT the ideal of the common man (and woman) were capable of self-governance, and had to be told what to do by the wealthy, because they are naturally superior by dint of their wealth, and any measure that aims to decrease that wealth is class warfare, created by jealousy of the superiority of the wealthy, and a bull-headed refusal to admit their betters, and accord therm their inborne right to rule by fiat.

But ACORN is the problem.

Right

Fatheads
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Rubbish, it isn't a bill of attainder, it is simply a bill that delineates funding cuts.

It doesn't declare them guilty of anything, it simply lowers their level of funding.
 
zoombwaz said:
Only one problem: the bill defunding them is what is known as a bill of attainder. and as such is unconstitutional under Article I, Section 9, to wit: No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
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LOL. Funding any "humanitarian" organization to begin with is unconstitutional. Hell, if I were President I would have cut off funding by executive order. Try reading the 10th Amendment sometime.
 
Damocles said:
Rubbish, it isn't a bill of attainder, it is simply a bill that delineates funding cuts.

It doesn't declare them guilty of anything, it simply lowers their level of funding.
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It names ACORN specifically, which makes it a bill of penalty, which is prohibited under the same secrtion of th Constitution. From the Legal information institute of the Cornell University Law School: "“Bills of attainder . . . are such special acts of the legislature, as inflict capital punishments upon persons supposed to be guilty of high offences, such as treason and felony, without any conviction in the ordinary course of judicial proceedings. If an act inflicts a milder degree of punishment than death, it is called a bill of pains and penalties. . . . In such cases, the legislature assumes judicial magistracy, pronouncing upon the guilt of the party without any of the common forms and guards of trial, and satisfying itself with proofs, when such proofs are within its reach, whether they are conformable to the rules of evidence, or not. In short, in all such cases, the legislature exercises the highest power of sovereignty, and what may be properly deemed an irresponsible despotic discretion, being governed solely by what it deems political necessity or expediency, and too often under the influence of unreasonable fears, or unfounded suspicions.” The phrase “bill of attainder,” as used in this clause and in clause 1 of Sec. 10, applies to bills of pains and penalties as well as to the traditional bills of attainder."
 
zoombwaz said:
It names ACORN specifically, which makes it a bill of penalty, which is prohibited under the same secrtion of th Constitution. From the Legal information institute of the Cornell University Law School: "“Bills of attainder . . . are such special acts of the legislature, as inflict capital punishments upon persons supposed to be guilty of high offences, such as treason and felony, without any conviction in the ordinary course of judicial proceedings. If an act inflicts a milder degree of punishment than death, it is called a bill of pains and penalties. . . . In such cases, the legislature assumes judicial magistracy, pronouncing upon the guilt of the party without any of the common forms and guards of trial, and satisfying itself with proofs, when such proofs are within its reach, whether they are conformable to the rules of evidence, or not. In short, in all such cases, the legislature exercises the highest power of sovereignty, and what may be properly deemed an irresponsible despotic discretion, being governed solely by what it deems political necessity or expediency, and too often under the influence of unreasonable fears, or unfounded suspicions.” The phrase “bill of attainder,” as used in this clause and in clause 1 of Sec. 10, applies to bills of pains and penalties as well as to the traditional bills of attainder."
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so now any bill that defunds someone is a bill of attainder?

it is not a penalty to defund someone.....you have no clue what you're talking about

i guess defunding blackwater was a bill of attainder as well......moron
 
Well, here's the deal:

Caldwell want's his scalp, and embezzlement by Acorn is a mighty fine scalp. Now all he has to do is prove it. And if he does, Acorn could lose it's federal funding permanently, as well as it's stature. That would be a shame, but it's their own fault for not publically kicking the Rathke brothers to the curb. They would have been embarassed, but better for it. Now their necks are on the line.

Outside of the Rathke brothers, the neocon GOP couldn't deal with the FACT that Acorn had NEVER been guilty of voter fraud. Any employee (outside of Rathke) who was caught wrong was reported to the proper authorities. The little neocon dweeb who ran from office to office before he got two dopes who broke the law with illegal advice has nothing else. Acorn was/is a threat because it registers poor and minority folk to vote...which is kryptonite to the GOP come election time. And since pulling another shennanigan like they did in Florida or Ohio would raise too many red flags, removing Acorn is a priority...and tying Obama to them in an exaggerated manner is a necessity.

But things may not shake out like the neocons expect...because Obama will still be here for 3 years.....and Halliburton has YET to account for the first $800 million it got for Iraq.

And the beat goes on.
 
zoombwaz said:
It names ACORN specifically, which makes it a bill of penalty, which is prohibited under the same secrtion of th Constitution. From the Legal information institute of the Cornell University Law School: "“Bills of attainder . . . are such special acts of the legislature, as inflict capital punishments upon persons supposed to be guilty of high offences, such as treason and felony, without any conviction in the ordinary course of judicial proceedings. If an act inflicts a milder degree of punishment than death, it is called a bill of pains and penalties. . . . In such cases, the legislature assumes judicial magistracy, pronouncing upon the guilt of the party without any of the common forms and guards of trial, and satisfying itself with proofs, when such proofs are within its reach, whether they are conformable to the rules of evidence, or not. In short, in all such cases, the legislature exercises the highest power of sovereignty, and what may be properly deemed an irresponsible despotic discretion, being governed solely by what it deems political necessity or expediency, and too often under the influence of unreasonable fears, or unfounded suspicions.” The phrase “bill of attainder,” as used in this clause and in clause 1 of Sec. 10, applies to bills of pains and penalties as well as to the traditional bills of attainder."
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Rubbish, their funding was named specifically, the defunding is the same. You are desperate to save this foundering giant, but it isn't going to be saved through this. Receiving the funds from the government to begin with is a privilege, this doesn't say they broke any laws, doesn't make them guilty of anything and does not punish them in any way.

The idea that the Ds voted on it secretly knowing it would be struck down by the courts is just plain laughable. It boggles the mind how hacktacular some of the people on the interwebs can get.
 
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