About that 200,000*

Yakuda said:
Cuomo made NY an example???

NY has 1634 covid deaths per million and FL has 617. Oh yeah I see your point they are an example.
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How has NY progressed since this started?

You don't need to answer that - I've got it. They followed CDC guidelines, Cuomo was out there every day reminding New Yorkers to take basic precautions like distancing and wearing masks, and by the summer, they were the #1 state in the union at slowing the spread.

So, yeah - it's an example everyone should follow.
 
BartenderElite said:
How has NY progressed since this started?

You don't need to answer that - I've got it. They followed CDC guidelines, Cuomo was out there every day reminding New Yorkers to take basic precautions like distancing and wearing masks, and by the summer, they were the #1 state in the union at slowing the spread.

So, yeah - it's an example everyone should follow.
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NY was ravaged by the WuFlu and so was WuHan.

As was Sweden. Two out of the three places have left the COVID dystopia in the rear view mirror. The other is run by Democrats.

See a pattern there? What does it suggest to you?
 
Darth Omar said:
NY was ravaged by the WuFlu and so was WuHan.

As was Sweden. Two out of the three places have left the COVID dystopia in the rear view mirror. The other is run by Democrats.

See a pattern there? What does it suggest to you?
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Of course it was hit hard at the start. I mean, you get that it's one of our largest & most traveled cities, right? With a high population density? They also think that a NYC airport is where the virus entered from Europe.

Please.

But leaders respond to those situations. NY took the brunt of it right away, but the response was unreal. They did everything that was recommended, and by June, they were the top state in the U.S. at slowing the spread.

The results speak for themselves. They are unassailable.
 
BartenderElite said:
How has NY progressed since this started?

You don't need to answer that - I've got it. They followed CDC guidelines, Cuomo was out there every day reminding New Yorkers to take basic precautions like distancing and wearing masks, and by the summer, they were the #1 state in the union at slowing the spread.

So, yeah - it's an example everyone should follow.
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Oh this is the those deaths happened a long time ago? That's a poor argument as deaths are deaths my friend. Cuomo killed those people.
 
Yakuda said:
Oh this is the those deaths happened a long time ago? That's a poor argument as deaths are deaths my friend. Cuomo killed those people.
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I think that's the thing most Trump supporters don't understand, because Trump himself doesn't understand. Leaders make mistakes. It's how they learn & adjust from those mistakes that matters.

And NY has been a shining example of overcoming early mistakes & problems.

Again - the results absolutely speak for themselves.
 
BartenderElite said:
Of course it was hit hard at the start. I mean, you get that it's one of our largest & most traveled cities, right? With a high population density? They also think that a NYC airport is where the virus entered from Europe.

Please.

But leaders respond to those situations. NY took the brunt of it right away, but the response was unreal. They did everything that was recommended, and by June, they were the top state in the U.S. at slowing the spread.

The results speak for themselves. They are unassailable.
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But why are two of the three places running wide open.

No election politics at work there?
 
BartenderElite said:
Of course it was hit hard at the start. I mean, you get that it's one of our largest & most traveled cities, right? With a high population density? They also think that a NYC airport is where the virus entered from Europe.

Please.

But leaders respond to those situations. NY took the brunt of it right away, but the response was unreal. They did everything that was recommended, and by June, they were the top state in the U.S. at slowing the spread.

The results speak for themselves. They are unassailable.
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But, the elderly that Cuomo killed can't.
 
Stretch said:
But, the elderly that Cuomo killed can't.
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Trump had a rally yesterday where people were packed in side by side, most not wearing masks (and he mocked masks again while he was talking).

Trump is also on tape admitting to downplaying the virus and hiding the truth from the American public.
 
BartenderElite said:
Virus gonna virus...right?
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Till it runs out of a sufficient number of susceptible victims to create an epidemic. Though it usually remains endemic in the population.

Then it stops virusing. If it didn’t work that way the human population would have been eradicated long ago by run-away pandemics.

The immune system is an ingenious product of design. They still don’t have it totally figured out.
 
moonBAT said:
400,000 by Christmas ?
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^More wishful thinking from lying, worthless pieces of human filth.

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Darth Omar said:
Iatrogenic deaths.

Several tens of thousands, at minimum. Due to the early CDC guidelines with intubating COVID patients. Intubation COVID=bad.

Good news is iatrogenic deaths are way down which is a big reason there’s been a significant drop in the death rate. So anyone ‘hoping’ for more big numbers before the election is probably going to be disappointed.
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Doctors were on orders to use vents with COVID before they would normally be used, when using vents at all should be only when there is no other choice......for so many weeks doctors working with patients had a sense that they were making a mistake but they had to do it anyway, because of the orders from the hospitals. I am upset about three things

1) that doctors were forced to follow these orders in the first place, who the fuck do the beurocrats think they are giving this kind of order?

2) that it took so long to get the orders lifted when they were obviously killing people.

3) that the so-called journalists almost completely refused to tell this story.
 
Grajonca said:
I remember when I posted a video of a technician in a NY hospital railing about all the ventilators lying idle in a store room. The usual fuckwits like Joanie, Katzshit and Arsecheese tried to say he wasn't a doctor, so what did he know. Well you nasty cunts, he was fucking right and you were wrong.

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I never got to the bottom of why hospital bureaucrats gave the order to use vents early on COVID, but at least one person I read was pretty sure part of the problem was state bureaucrats wanting there to be a shortage of vents in order to make the claim that Trump was killing people.
 
Old'N'Retired said:
I've heard in TV discussions number between 5,800 and 15,000.

The stats are accumulated by Cuomo's butt kissers. We may never know.
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We will never know, in part because of the incompetence of our leaders and in part because of their lack of morality. In the end though COVID was completely and tragically mismanaged. THis goes on the list with the Iraq debacle and the Great Recession as the top three reasons why the Elites are rapidly losing their reputations, why the Little People are getting to "ENOUGHT!".
 
Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
Unexplained excess deaths at home almost nine times higher than those from Covid

ONS figures spark concern that many are failing to get treatment for serious conditions as coronavirus crisis continues

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...s-deaths-home-almost-nine-times-higher-covid/
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There is no questioning the fact of excess deaths in 2020. But the emerging question is how many of them fall into the ‘unexplained’ category and are plausibly due to lockdowns and delayed medical treatment.

It’s going to take time to unravel this but the facts are slowly emerging.
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It only shows how crucial early testing would have been; under competent honest leadership.

We had neither, so we suffered more deaths.

An earlier and better planned government response package would have kept people on the employment rolls by paying employers to keep workers at home. This would have kept work related health insurance in place and allowed people to seek the health care they needed. The economy never had to crash.
 
Darth Omar said:
Unexplained excess deaths at home almost nine times higher than those from Covid

ONS figures spark concern that many are failing to get treatment for serious conditions as coronavirus crisis continues

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...s-deaths-home-almost-nine-times-higher-covid/
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There is no questioning the fact of excess deaths in 2020. But the emerging question is how many of them fall into the ‘unexplained’ category and are plausibly due to lockdowns and delayed medical treatment.

It’s going to take time to unravel this but the facts are slowly emerging.
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Not gonna pay to read the piece. If they are making the claim that people are delaying medical treatment because facilities are overwhelmed, then you have successfully made the case for wearing masks across the nation, and practicing proper distancing.
 
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