Abortion

[Into the Night]

^ Projecting as always.

LIF. Grow up.

 

[Scott]

AProudLefty's annoying posts put me in that kind of mood.

I ask you to consider that what annoys you about the particular post that got you to make this image is AProudLefty's underlying point- a human zygote is far removed from a born baby.

No. AProudLefty is just annoying [snip]

I ask the audience to notice that IBDaMann didn't respond to my point about how a human zygote is far removed from a born baby.

I also believe that a human zygote looks a lot more like its immediate predecessors, a human sperm and a human egg, than it does a birthed baby.

How is this relevant to anything?

Everyone agrees that the deaths of human sperm and human eggs isn't such a big deal. Why does that change for so many people once the 2 are joined? At least in its initial stages, the difference is minimal.

 

[Into the Night]

So am I.

Lile.

So am I.

Lie.

Teenagers having abortions are a subset.

Lie. Strawman fallacy.

You did.

Lie.

 

[Into the Night]

Omniscience fallacy. You don't get to speak for me.

DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!

See above.

The distraction is done by you.

Iinversion fallacy. Lie.

 

[Into the Night]

Bystander implies a sentient person who is a witness to an event.

Contextomy fallacy.

Nice try with the distraction. Your Jedi mind trick won't work.

Inversion fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Definition of bystander - a person who is present at an event or incident but does not take part.

Redefinition fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

I ask the audience to notice that IBDaMann didn't respond to my point about how a human zygote is far removed from a born baby.

Irrelevance fallacy.

Everyone agrees that the deaths of human sperm and human eggs isn't such a big deal.

Irrelevance fallacy. Strawman fallacy.

Why does that change for so many people once the 2 are joined?

RQAA.

At least in its initial stages, the difference is minimal.

Lie.

 

[Into the Night]

Different stages of human development have different levels of intelligence.

Irrelevance fallacy.

Most people are alright if human sperm and eggs die on a regular basis.

Strawman fallacy. Repetition fallacy.

It's only after the 2 are joined that people start to care much about the longevity of these "living human" beings.

Because they ARE living human beings.

Others think that termination is fine so long as the the fertilized egg doesn't yet have a heartbeat. To this I say that humans are hardly the only living being to have a heartbeat and we kill many animals with fully developed hearts on a regular basis. As I've said before, I think the important thing should be level of intelligence, not whether conception has occurred or whether the fertilized egg has a heartbeat.

Irrelevance fallacy. Strawman fallacy.

 

[Scott]

essentially, the boundaries of what a human life can be is that it has to have at least one human cell, such as a sperm,

Nope. There's no heartbeat.

There is no requirement for living things to have heartbeats,

Chanting. Repetition Fallacy.

If I'm repeating myself, it's only because you're not really paying attention to what I'm saying, thus the need for repetition.

Nope. You repeat yourself because you chant your dishonesty.

I think the audience can see that IBDaMann is trying hard, whether consciously or unconsciously, to try to ignore the rift not only with me, but with his own side here. gfm and Into the Night both apparently believe that a human life begins at conception- IBDaMann, on the other hand, believes that a human life begins once the embryo gets a heartbeat. IBDaMann, gfm and Into the Night all like to ignore the fact that the first stage of human development is the Gamete stage, that is, human sperm and human eggs.

 

[Scott]

Where did you get this notion that I believe that one or more things that have a heartbeat aren't alive?

State officially for the record that a fetus with a heartbeat is a living human

My definition of a living human includes embryos and fetuses with a heartbeat. My definition also includes human sperms and eggs, as well as fully mature humans.

 

[Hawkeye10]

My definition of a living human includes embryos and fetuses with a heartbeat. My definition also includes human sperms and eggs, as well as fully mature humans.

R U A Masochist?

Your behaviour here is shall we say interesting.

 

[Scott]

R U A Masochist?

No. Why do you ask?

 

[Scott]

Don't kid yourself, every governing district that doesn't allow pregnant females to remove the fetuses growing inside them is forcing said females to be fetus growers.

My view is that you are setting aside parts of the whole process whenever it is convenient for you to do so. Here, you are setting aside the fact that a woman (and a man) are WILLINGLY CHOOSING to have sex, knowing full well that their choice to have sex MAY result in a pregnancy. IOW, they are GAMBLING.

I'm not setting anything aside. The fact that sex may result in pregnancy doesn't change the fact that any jurisdiction that doesn't allow abortions is forcing females to be embryo and fetus growers. The U.S. has come a long way in giving more rights to females, such as the right to vote, but when it comes to abortion, well, it still has a long way to go in many states.