Abortion rights in Israel

Right said:
So you agree that the OP is pure bullshit then.
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So "Right" (haha) do you believe that "Israel is key to the premillenialists’ desire to “get out of life alive”. He’s talking about the “Rapture”.

And do you believe abortion is murder?
 
French 75 said:
I agree that fuck Israel if that's what you mean. Beyond that I don't give a shit what they do, they can do it without us.
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No that's not what I mean at all. My point is tat the OP argument is pure bullshit. Yours, although I disagree, at least has logical merit behind it.

Obviously the OP author doesn't realize why the US supports Israel. Here's a clue: do some research on the treaties that ended WW2.
 
christiefan915 said:
Andy Borowitz nails it.

"American conservatives love, love, love Israel. They also hate, hate, hate abortion and socialized medicine. American conservatives face one hell of a moral conundrum in the new year...

This will be a tough cookie for the mostly evangelical philo-Semites of the American Right. Consider Sarah Palin—who, admittedly, is an idiot, but still gets straight-faced praise in some conservative circles. She's a Pentecostal who's sworn to combat "the atrocity of abortion" and decried Obamacare as "the biggest advance of the abortion industry in America." She's also visited the Holy Land, made a cottage industry of "defending our friends in Israel," and told Israelis to stop "apologizing all the time" for doing their thang.

There's no been no comment yet from Palin and her fellow antichoice Zionists on Eretz Yisrael's abortions for its chosen people. Of course, it's possible the conservatives' brains just exploded."

http://gawker.com/israel-plans-to-pay-for-all-of-its-young-ladies-aborti-1491752166

Israel to fund all abortions for women 20-33 starting next year

"Israel will pay for abortions for women aged 20 to 33 regardless of circumstance starting next year, health officials said Monday, adding that they hope to make eligibilty for state funding universal in the future.

Until now, subsidized abortions for women of all ages were available in medical emergencies or in case of rape and sexual abuse. Women under the age of 20 or over 40 were also eligible for abortion funding even when the reason was personal.

Despite the new funding, which was recently approved as part of Israel’s state-subsidized “health basket” for 2014, women will still have to appear before a state committee before terminating a pregnancy."

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.566198
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Wiki says she is Nondenominational (or non-denominational) Christian
 
NOVA said:
Wiki says she is Nondenominational (or non-denominational) Christian
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From the moonie Times:

ST. PAUL, Minn. | Sarah Palin displays an Israeli flag in her governor’s office in Juneau, even though she has never been to the country, and attends Protestant evangelical churches that consider the preservation of the state of Israel a biblical imperative.

Her faith makes her a favorite with the staunchly pro-Israel neoconservative elements in the Republican Party.

In June, Mrs. Palin told ministry students at her former church that in going to war with Iraq, the United States is “on a task that is from God,” the Associated Press reported.

Mrs. Palin’s brand of evangelical Protestantism is especially well-disposed to the preservation of Israel for biblical reasons, said Merrill Matthews, an evangelical Christian and a Dallas-based health-policy specialist.

Mrs. Palin was baptized as a teenager at the Wasilla Assembly of God Church. She frequently attends the Juneau Christian Center, which is also part of the Pentecostal Assemblies of God. Her home church is the Church of the Rock, an independent congregation.

“Historically, the Assemblies of God have been dispensationalists, which means they believe in ‘the rapture’ of Christians that takes them out of the world,” said Mr. Matthews. “Central to that position is a very strong support for Israel. It’s integral to their view of both prophecy and politics. Denying Israel is almost like denying the faith.”
 
Right said:
Since the two issues are completely unrelated, there is no hypocrisy.

An example of what you want to occur would be a devout Catholic disowning his child because she was gay. You'd cry 'hypocrisy' if he didn't, and cry 'intolerance' if he did.
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Your assuming those would be the only two choices one would have with a gay child. I have a 17 year old daughter who is gay. I have lots of conservative religious relatives that think that she is in the wrong but do not disown her. Your post is a classic example of the excluded middle....false dichotomy.
 
Right said:
Perhaps we should. But doing so because of an unrelated issue, like stated in the OP, makes zero sense.
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Are you just playing dumb or don't you understand the point of the OP?

How do fervent supporters of Israel/opponents of abortion square their beliefs?
 
1966stang said:
Your assuming those would be the only two choices one would have with a gay child. I have a 17 year old daughter who is gay. I have lots of conservative religious relatives that think that she is in the wrong but do not disown her. Your post is a classic example of the excluded middle....false dichotomy.
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No my post was an analogy. For you to take an analogy to the point where it no longer is applicable is a logic fallacy itself...
 
christiefan915 said:
Are you just playing dumb or don't you understand the point of the OP?

How do fervent supporters of Israel/opponents of abortion square their beliefs?
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All you are doing is repeating the same failed logic. Liberal domestic policy of Israel has nothing to do with why conservatives in the US support a foreign policy in support of Israel.
 
christiefan915 said:
Your inference was wrong. I created the thread to make fun of people like Palin and fundies who fervently support Israel and fervently oppose abortion.
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Now I get it....you think everyone that opposes abortion must now give up support for Israel.....and it
seems you think, especially Sarah Palin.....

In thatr case you should also direct her to speak out against Finland, Iceland, United Kingdom, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Belgium, France, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland, etc.
As should the Pope you so admire.

We certainly can't have Palin and the Pope showing any support for any of these countries that
allow abortion, right....and I guess that would include all Pentecostals and Baptists and especially
Catholics...unless of course, you're a CINO.....or just a regular hypocrite...
 
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