Abortion battle looming?

Good Luck said:
When a person clings to their "opinion" despite being proven wrong by science, the only conclusion is they are deliberate lies. The status of the unborn as living humans has been well established by the biological sciences. Yet in this very thread you made the claim they are just a "clump of cells". Being you are not stupid enough to be ignorant of the scientific proof of the humanity of the unborn, then calling them "a clump of cells" IS a lie. And you KNOW it to be a lie.
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You're misrepresenting the science, and cherrypicking the facts. Science uses words like "zygote" and "fetus" for a reason, but when I use those, I'm an effin' liar....
 
NigelTufnel said:
That's the most you can say for an industry that, by your reckoning, murders tens of thousands of human children each year? That's pretty weak sauce.


Edit: And what's this "embryo" shit? I thought they were children.
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So, what am I supposed to recommend? Death by slow torture for all who work in them? Are you disappointed by my stance? Spoiling for a fight that did not emerge?

And they ARE children. Human children who happen to be at the embryonic stage of development. Unlike abortionists, I do not use the term to deny their humanity.
 
Onceler said:
You're misrepresenting the science, and cherrypicking the facts. Science uses words like "zygote" and "fetus" for a reason, but when I use those, I'm an effin' liar....
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Show me ONE place where I call you a liar for calling them "fetus" or "zygote". You lie to cover your lies. YOU claim they are not human - that is the lie. You use the scientific terms as if it somehow proves they are not human. That is the lie. Not the use of the terms, but portraying the implication that those terms "prove" something they do not prove.

You claim the use of the term "child" is an attempt on our part to emotionalize the argument - that is a lie since you know full well that the term is very commonly used by women who are pregnant, and men who are associated with women who are pregnant. Lies permeate your arguments. Which make you a fucking liar.

And how am I "misrepresenting" the science? Science says that the unborn, at all stages of development, are living organisms of the species Homo Sapiens. Science also says that you are a living organism of the species Homo Sapiens. What does science say that I am leaving out, since the above facts are supposedly "cherry picking"?
 
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