A small price to pay for Freedom

Concart said:
The lives of our children is a small price to pay for your freedom to own 27 semi-automatic weapons.

The lives of 800,000 Americans is a small price to pay for your freedom to go maskless and defy vaccines.

You are freedom fighters. You have sacrificed...... oh wait, absolutely nothing.

Discuss.
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Bring back parental and school discipline and quit running God out of the equation and there won't be so many apathetic quasi state babies running around.

What kind of children are these semi-lobotomized indoctrinated idiots with no self-control, discipline, or moral foundation going to raise?
 
Concart said:
I would add that having a backyard pool is not a constitutional right. You are required by state and local authorities to take certain precautions to prevent accidental deaths. That being said, there are far more ACCIDENTAL gun deaths in the US every year than there are swimming pool drownings. That's not really the point. I support the right of Americans to own a firearm. I believe there need to be limits and additional regulations related to that right, but what's a few dead kids when weighed against the unlimited right to own a gun without any training or background checking. Small price as I said.
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volsrock said:
True

But a gun is,,,,, u stupid bald headed fucking POS





There are an estimated 350 million privately owned firearms in America. In 2017, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported 486 fatal injuries from unintentional discharges of a firearm. That yields a rate per 100,000 firearms of 0.14.

There are an estimated 10.4 million private swimming pools in the United States. In 2017, the CDC reported 3,709 accidental drownings. That yields a rate per 100,000 pools of 35.66.









486 Americans died from unintentional firearm injuries — about 1.2% of total gun deaths.2 ALL AGES
https://efsgv.org/learn/type-of-gun-violence/unintentional-shootings/


On average, there were about 400 reported pool/spa drowning deaths among children younger than age 15 each year from 2016 through 2018, according to new CPSC data.
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...ld-drownings-in-us-pools-spas-are-on-the-rise


Lot more guns than pools!!!! Pools kill more kids than guns


Pools: more dangerous for children than guns
A child is 100 times more likely to drown in a pool than be killed by a gun
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NiftyNiblick said:
Unless I'm mistaken, the Heller decision said that the right was not unlimited but than struck down all the limitations!

There are so many more important (to me) progressive issues that need to be advanced
that gun control is not the hill on which I'd be willing to die.
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It struck down that particular set of limitations. My guess is they are saying you can't have a personal nuke.
 
Concart said:
I would add that having a backyard pool is not a constitutional right. You are required by state and local authorities to take certain precautions to prevent accidental deaths. That being said, there are far more ACCIDENTAL gun deaths in the US every year than there are swimming pool drownings. That's not really the point. I support the right of Americans to own a firearm. I believe there need to be limits and additional regulations related to that right, but what's a few dead kids when weighed against the unlimited right to own a gun without any training or background checking. Small price as I said.
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Concart said:
With respect to guns..... I am not opposed to gun ownership. But we have opened that door to far too many people who should not be in possession of a firearm. We can't put the genie back in the bottle. We can do a much better job of controlling the genie.
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You leftists have indoctrinated too many people to where they really shouldn't own firearms.

Leftist doctrine created this mess. More government is NOT the answer.

Getting rid of the leftist bullshit and back on the track of what made America prosper is the way.
 
Nomad said:
I'm sure the gun goobers would claim ammo falls under the heading of "arms", but in reality, the Constitution says nothing about what constitutes arms and what doeasn't.

So in reality, a ban on handguns would not violate the letter of the 2nd Amenndment because certain types of arms are already banned for private ownership and use.
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the constitution also does not define freedom or rights or assembly, but we know what those words mean. arms means arms of war, not just firearms. period. ammo would fall in that category as well.
 
Matt Dillon said:
You leftists have indoctrinated too many people to where they really shouldn't own firearms.

Leftist doctrine created this mess. More government is NOT the answer.

Getting rid of the leftist bullshit and back on the track of what made America prosper is the way.
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if having a gun is your definition of being an american, you are even more retarded than I thought. what a stupid bitch.
 
volsrock said:
Guns do not murder anyone!!!!

A human being does

on 9/11 did the airplanes murder people or humans?
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With a gun.
Rightys are nuts, at least Text is. A gun has the express purpose of harming people. What other object has that as a goal? Cars, swimming pools?
 
Concart said:
I would add that having a backyard pool is not a constitutional right. You are required by state and local authorities to take certain precautions to prevent accidental deaths. That being said, there are far more ACCIDENTAL gun deaths in the US every year than there are swimming pool drownings. That's not really the point. I support the right of Americans to own a firearm. I believe there need to be limits and additional regulations related to that right, but what's a few dead kids when weighed against the unlimited right to own a gun without any training or background checking. Small price as I said.
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Hoosier Daddy said:
if having a gun is your definition of being an american, you are even more retarded than I thought. what a stupid bitch.
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What?! What I said was the left has indoctrinated the children with no discipline or limits or moral foundations so they're really not mentally up to the task of responsible firearm ownership.

You take these limitless "children" and then all of a sudden they have to get used to the concept of obeying laws and being responsible when they get around 16 or so?

Pah!

How could that possibly work? It definitely does not make society better, safer, or more prosperous.

I realize goons like you want government thugs running everyone's lives, but that may not go over well in America.
 
Althea said:
I don't believe the Constitution addresses pricing, which is a great way to make it harder to obtain.

There could be a 100% tax imposed by the Feds, with corresponding state taxes.

Chris Rock once did a bit about charging $5000 each for bullets.

"I'd kill you man, but I can't afford it"
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I suspect that's a dodge that would likely not survive a court challenge. This is what Republicans are attempting to do with voting rights. Make voting more difficult for black people while claiming the intent is something else. Just my take. I prefer the direct approach.
 
Matt Dillon said:
What?! What I said was the left has indoctrinated the children with no discipline or limits or moral foundations so they're really not mentally up to the task of responsible firearm ownership.

You take these limitless "children" and then all of a sudden they have to get used to the concept of obeying laws and being responsible when they get around 16 or so?

Pah!

How could that possibly work? It definitely does not make society better, safer, or more prosperous.

I realize goons like you want government thugs running everyone's lives, but that may not go over well in America.
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what are you fucking talking about? the juvenile crime rate is lower than when reagan was president, the graduation rate is higher, the college rate is higher. what the fuck are you talking about, dummy?
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
what are you fucking talking about? the juvenile crime rate is lower than when reagan was president, the graduation rate is higher, the college rate is higher. what the fuck are you talking about, dummy?
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Because they've lowered the bar, purple twatwaffle.

Lowered graduation standards
Lowered admission standards
Lowered prosecutions of crimes
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
the constitution also does not define freedom or rights or assembly, but we know what those words mean. arms means arms of war, not just firearms. period. ammo would fall in that category as well.
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So what exactly are you attempting to say here.... that based of the wording of the 2nd A, people are supposed to be allowed to own "arms of war"?

Like what.... shoulder fired rocket launchers? Tanks? Mortars?
 
Nomad said:
So what exactly are you attempting to say here.... that based of the wording of the 2nd A, people are supposed to be allowed to own "arms of war"?

Like what.... shoulder fired rocket launchers? Tanks? Mortars?
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Yes.

Biden gave them to The Taliban. Why can't those that paid for them have some?
 
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