A REAL GENERAL RESPONDS TO trumpf's STEALING OIL

Bill

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During the Commander-in-Chief forum on MSNBC, Trump told host Matt Lauer that the U.S. should have taken Iraq’s oil because “to the victor go the spoils.”

“I cannot wrap my mind around the concept,” CNN host Anderson Cooper later noted. “Just from a military standpoint, all I see is you’re taking the oil of a sovereign nation, which is our ally, under this antiquated notion of to the victor go the spoils. They’re supposedly our ally.”

“Wouldn’t that turn everybody else against the United States if we are stealing Iraq’s oil?” Cooper wondered.

“Not if we were in the 16th Century,” Hertling replied. “But unfortunately we’re not, we’re in the 21st.”

Ret. Col. Cedric Leighton noted that Trump’s words were “something you might expect a Chinese military leader to say.”

“But it is not workable for our particular time and the particular region that we’re dealing with here,” Leighton said. “You want to raise the oil revenue for the countries that are effected by these conflicts and you want to give them a way in which to live their lives.”

“The idea of to the victor go the spoils, it implies that Iraq itself is the enemy,” Cooper observed. “And we have crushed them and now we’re taking their oil.”

“It implies that the U.S. military that’s there is a mercenary force,” Hertling pointed out. “It is not the American way of war to go and occupy land, steal its resources, rape its women and do the kind of things that Mr. Trump is saying.”

“It is a simplistic approach that is appealing to a certain percentage of Americans.”


Watch the video below from CNN, broadcast Sept. 7, 2016.
 
During the Commander-in-Chief forum on MSNBC, Trump told host Matt Lauer that the U.S. should have taken Iraq’s oil because “to the victor go the spoils.”

“I cannot wrap my mind around the concept,” CNN host Anderson Cooper later noted. “Just from a military standpoint, all I see is you’re taking the oil of a sovereign nation, which is our ally, under this antiquated notion of to the victor go the spoils. They’re supposedly our ally.”

“Wouldn’t that turn everybody else against the United States if we are stealing Iraq’s oil?” Cooper wondered.

“Not if we were in the 16th Century,” Hertling replied. “But unfortunately we’re not, we’re in the 21st.”

Ret. Col. Cedric Leighton noted that Trump’s words were “something you might expect a Chinese military leader to say.”

“But it is not workable for our particular time and the particular region that we’re dealing with here,” Leighton said. “You want to raise the oil revenue for the countries that are effected by these conflicts and you want to give them a way in which to live their lives.”

“The idea of to the victor go the spoils, it implies that Iraq itself is the enemy,” Cooper observed. “And we have crushed them and now we’re taking their oil.”

“It implies that the U.S. military that’s there is a mercenary force,” Hertling pointed out. “It is not the American way of war to go and occupy land, steal its resources, rape its women and do the kind of things that Mr. Trump is saying.”

“It is a simplistic approach that is appealing to a certain percentage of Americans.”


Watch the video below from CNN, broadcast Sept. 7, 2016.

Everything about the Iraq war was screwed up
 
Ret. Col. Cedric Leighton noted that Trump’s words were “something you might expect a Chinese military leader to say.” :)
 
Iraq ceased to be a sovereign nation.
On l y just recently sort of becoming one.
And now we have Libya and seria in the same boat.
 
“It is not the American way of war to go and occupy land, steal its resources, rape its women and do the kind of things that Mr. Trump is saying.”
strange......I seem to recall all the liberals shouting that the only reason we went to Iraq in the first place was to steal the oil........now they all want to argue that it never could have happened.......
 
strange......I seem to recall all the liberals shouting that the only reason we went to Iraq in the first place was to steal the oil........now they all want to argue that it never could have happened.......

Possibly your other Republican moron's intent in the first place. He just used the trumped up WMD as a smokescreen.
 
During the Commander-in-Chief forum on MSNBC, Trump told host Matt Lauer that the U.S. should have taken Iraq’s oil because “to the victor go the spoils.”

“I cannot wrap my mind around the concept,” CNN host Anderson Cooper later noted. “Just from a military standpoint, all I see is you’re taking the oil of a sovereign nation, which is our ally, under this antiquated notion of to the victor go the spoils. They’re supposedly our ally.”

“Wouldn’t that turn everybody else against the United States if we are stealing Iraq’s oil?” Cooper wondered.

“Not if we were in the 16th Century,” Hertling replied. “But unfortunately we’re not, we’re in the 21st.”

Ret. Col. Cedric Leighton noted that Trump’s words were “something you might expect a Chinese military leader to say.”

“But it is not workable for our particular time and the particular region that we’re dealing with here,” Leighton said. “You want to raise the oil revenue for the countries that are effected by these conflicts and you want to give them a way in which to live their lives.”

“The idea of to the victor go the spoils, it implies that Iraq itself is the enemy,” Cooper observed. “And we have crushed them and now we’re taking their oil.”

“It implies that the U.S. military that’s there is a mercenary force,” Hertling pointed out. “It is not the American way of war to go and occupy land, steal its resources, rape its women and do the kind of things that Mr. Trump is saying.”

“It is a simplistic approach that is appealing to a certain percentage of Americans.”


Watch the video below from CNN, broadcast Sept. 7, 2016.

I like how they could barely keep from laughing when giving their answers.
 
I like how they could barely keep from laughing when giving their answers.

Yep, his "yuge idea" is child like....... Saying it is primitive would be a compliment...........

But as we see daily, for a "certain percentage of Americans", the apprentice is the real deal, they seen him on TV..........
 
strange......I seem to recall all the liberals shouting that the only reason we went to Iraq in the first place was to steal the oil........now they all want to argue that it never could have happened.......

Um, no. They said it was a war for oil, which it was. Every intervention we've had in the Middle East for decades has been because of oil.

James Baker at least admitted that after Gulf I. I'd love to see you find one quote from a prominent liberal saying that we were there to "steal the oil."
 
strange......I seem to recall all the liberals shouting that the only reason we went to Iraq in the first place was to steal the oil........now they all want to argue that it never could have happened.......

Many rank and file Republicans assume that only liberals claim the Iraq war was for oil. In reality, the top Republican leaders say the same thing.

For example, U.S. Secretary of Defense – and former 12-year Republican Senator – Chuck Hagel said of the Iraq war in 2007:
People say we’re not fighting for oil. Of course we are. They talk about America’s national interest. What the hell do you think they’re talking about? We’re not there for figs.

4 Star General John Abizaid – the former commander of CENTCOM with responsibility for Iraq – said:
Of course it’s about oil, it’s very much about oil, and we can’t really deny that.

Former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan – a long-time Republican – said in 2007:
I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil

President George W. Bush said in 2005 that keeping Iraqi oil away from the bad guys was a key motive for the Iraq war:
‘If Zarqawi and [Osama] bin Laden gain control of Iraq, they would create a new training ground for future terrorist attacks,” Bush said. ”They’d seize oil fields to fund their ambitions.”

Former Bush speechwriter David Frum – author of the infamous “Axis of Evil” claim in Bush’s 2002 State of the Union address – writes in Newsweek this week:
In 2002, Chalabi [the Iraqi politician and oil minister who the Bush Administration favored to lead Iraq after the war] joined the annual summer retreat of the American Enterprise Institute near Vail, Colorado. He and Cheney spent long hours together, contemplating the possibilities of a Western-oriented Iraq: an additional source of oil, an alternative to U.S. dependency on an unstable-looking Saudi Arabia.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/03/top-republican-leaders-say-iraq-war-was-really-for-oil.html
 
Many rank and file Republicans assume that only liberals claim the Iraq war was for oil. In reality, the top Republican leaders say the same thing.

For example, U.S. Secretary of Defense – and former 12-year Republican Senator – Chuck Hagel said of the Iraq war in 2007:
People say we’re not fighting for oil. Of course we are. They talk about America’s national interest. What the hell do you think they’re talking about? We’re not there for figs.

4 Star General John Abizaid – the former commander of CENTCOM with responsibility for Iraq – said:
Of course it’s about oil, it’s very much about oil, and we can’t really deny that.

Former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan – a long-time Republican – said in 2007:
I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil

President George W. Bush said in 2005 that keeping Iraqi oil away from the bad guys was a key motive for the Iraq war:
‘If Zarqawi and [Osama] bin Laden gain control of Iraq, they would create a new training ground for future terrorist attacks,” Bush said. ”They’d seize oil fields to fund their ambitions.”

Former Bush speechwriter David Frum – author of the infamous “Axis of Evil” claim in Bush’s 2002 State of the Union address – writes in Newsweek this week:
In 2002, Chalabi [the Iraqi politician and oil minister who the Bush Administration favored to lead Iraq after the war] joined the annual summer retreat of the American Enterprise Institute near Vail, Colorado. He and Cheney spent long hours together, contemplating the possibilities of a Western-oriented Iraq: an additional source of oil, an alternative to U.S. dependency on an unstable-looking Saudi Arabia.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/03/top-republican-leaders-say-iraq-war-was-really-for-oil.html

Yes, of course it was for oil. Not only Iraq's but the middle east's oil. Whether or not we "take" the oil, we are keeping it flowing and that keeps oil prices down. Clearly without oil, we wouldn't have our military all over the middle east just like we don't have it in other hell holes across the world who don't have oil
 
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