A majority of white voters elected THE worst president in history. Intelligent???

Sorry I don't respond to insane people!!

They are attempting to blame others for their gullibility and stupidity and confessing that Democrat voters are not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed? News stories don't pull voting machine levers and don't stop someone from voting. That's why the Pollsters were left licking their balls under the porch the day after the election....they were 180 degrees off target. Yet this leftist is suggesting that news articles cost them the election after its proven that propaganda News can't win elections or Hillary would be POTUS as we speak. You are correct there is a vast "disconnect" between reality, reason and logic with this insane idiot. As all the news sources had Hillary to win in a landslide up until about 9PM on election night.
 
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this will make the 8th time i'm stating that I voted for johnson.

I've been very consistent in stating that the election of 2016 was finding out which party could choose the absolute worst candidate. the republicans are just as much at fault as the dems that voted for him.

feel the johnson......


read above.

Cool .. got it.

Thanks
 
Trump was elected by Alveda King and Louis Farrakhan, so get over it already. The African American vote went to Trump, as they did not bother to vote for Billary

Try again kid

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I never endorsed Mr. Trump or any of the candidates who are running for the nomination that would make them the leader of their party. I said of Mr. Trump that I give him credit as the only one who stood in front of “some” members of the Jewish community and told them he did not need or want their money. This was very big because any man who is able to stand on his own is free enough to do what is in the best interest of the country. That is what I said and that is what I meant.*

On another occasion, I said I liked what I am looking at because I felt he had a strength required of anyone who wished to save America, or move away the Wrath of Allah (God) plaguing not only America but the world with the forces of nature.

I could never endorse any candidate because not one of them is saying that which would save America from the Wrath of Allah (God). -- Minister Louis Farrakhan

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/National_News_2/article_102946.shtml

"Alveda’s chirpings about her sharing the “King blood” is like me using an alleged familial relationship to a rock star to demand a recording contract even though I can’t carry a tune"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alvin-mcewen/alveda-kings-attempted-cl_b_696387.html

You racists use Alveda King like a two-dollar whore .. which is how she is viewed by much of the Black community that you think gives a fuck about her. :0)

try again
 
White, working-class, middle-age Americans dying younger than their peers

WASHINGTON — Middle-age white Americans with limited education are increasingly dying younger, on average, than other middle-age US adults, a trend driven by their dwindling economic opportunities, research by two Princeton University economists has found.

The economists, Anne Case and Angus Deaton, argue in a paper released Thursday that the loss of steady middle-income jobs for those with high school degrees or less has triggered broad problems for this group. They are more likely than their college-educated counterparts, for example, to be unemployed, unmarried or afflicted with poor health.

“This is a story of the collapse of the white working class,” Deaton said in an interview. “The labor market has very much turned against them.”

Those dynamics helped fuel the rise of President Donald Trump, who won widespread support among whites with only a high school degree.

Yet Deaton said his policies are unlikely to reverse these trends, particularly the health care legislation now before the House that Trump is championing. That bill would lead to higher premiums for older Americans, the Congressional Budget Office has found.

“The policies that you see, seem almost perfectly designed to hurt the very people who voted for him,” Deaton said.

Case and Deaton’s paper, issued by the Brookings Institution, follows up on research they released in 2015 that first documented a sharp increase in mortality among middle-aged whites.

Since 1999, white men and women ages 45 through 54 have endured a sharp increase in “deaths of despair,” Case and Deaton found in their earlier work. These include suicides, drug overdoses, and alcohol-related deaths such as liver failure.

Other research has found that Americans with only high school degrees are less likely to get married or purchase a home and more likely to get divorced if they do marry.

“It’s not just their careers that have gone down the tubes, but their marriage prospects, their ability to raise children,” said Deaton, who won the Nobel prize in economics in 2015 for his long-standing work on solutions to poverty. “That’s the kind of thing that can lead people to despair.”

It’s not entirely clear why these trends have affected whites much more than they have African-Americans or Hispanics, whose death rates are improving.

Case and Deaton note that many Hispanics are “markedly better off” than parents or grandparents who were born abroad, enabling a greater sense of optimism. African-Americans, they add, may have become more resilient to economic challenges given their long-standing disadvantages in the job market.

The data is clear, though: In 1999, the death rate for high school-educated whites ages 50 through 54 was 30 percent lower than the death rate for all African-Americans in that age group. By 2015, it was 30 percent higher.
https://www.statnews.com/2017/03/23/dying-whites-middle-age-less-education/

Couple that with this ..

Trump overwhelmingly leads rivals in support from less educated Americans
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown...vals-in-support-from-less-educated-americans/

That math equals white Trump voters voting against their own best interests .. if life can be considered an interest.
 
I don't think he's going to do anything. In fact I think his trade policies will hurt the working class. Automation has hurt the working class the most. But I don't think Democrats or more gov't welfare programs are going to help them either.
So, what is? If they don't have jobs that pay enough to provide basic needs, what is the answer? Republicans don't want to educate or train people, either, so what's the answer?
 
I posted the article last week of the large number of poor people moving out of California because democrats won't allow enough building of housing. The rich white liberal democratic base loves it of course because their property values go up. Not exactly helping 'the little guy'
Nope, a very small percentage of the 10% really want the undesirables around, unless it's to clean, cook or mow their lawns.
 
I think he would have been hopelessly naive as President, for a start he wanted to get rid of all nuclear power. Maybe he ought to have looked to Germany and the huge problems created by their Energiewende policy.

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He is naive. Trump is inexperienced, Clinton is more of the same LW identity politics, mixed in with bellicose jingoism.

Trump has excellent instincts on foreign policy - Russia can be dealt with
(Clinton would not deal -using the same failed Obama policy of dismissing Putin - and not using realpolitik)

China is a real Pacific power we alone have to deal with - Europe will never care about the Pacific.
Trump is correct on re-building the Navy.
 
So, what is? If they don't have jobs that pay enough to provide basic needs, what is the answer? Republicans don't want to educate or train people, either, so what's the answer?

Actually Republicans do want to educate people. Democrats are too beholden to teachers unions and thus refuse to fight for school choice and school improvement. Democrats and their teachers union subsidiaries stuck in a mid 20th century mindset on education and thus the students suffer.
 
Actually Republicans do want to educate people. Democrats are too beholden to teachers unions and thus refuse to fight for school choice and school improvement. Democrats and their teachers union subsidiaries stuck in a mid 20th century mindset on education and thus the students suffer.

Show us legislation from republicans that equals what democrats produce to educate and train students and workers.

'Want' means nothing. Legislation proves intent.
 
Show us legislation from republicans that equals what democrats produce to educate and train students and workers.

'Want' means nothing. Legislation proves intent.

actually there is quite a bit of proposed legislation that is b.s., that people know have zero chance of passing but they put together to score points among their supporters.

How deep into the weeds would you like to go on charter schools and the Democrats effort to fight them?
 
Why the white middle class is dying faster, explained in 5 charts
The complicated collapse of middle-aged white Americans.


In a new 60-page paper, “Mortality and morbidity in the 21st Century,” out in draft form in the Brookings Papers on Economic Activity Thursday, the researchers weave a narrative of “cumulative disadvantage” over a lifetime for white people ages 45 through 54, particularly those with low levels of education.

1) Suicides, alcohol, and drug overdose deaths have gone up across the entire country.

Maps_deathsofdespair__1_.png


“Deaths of despair” — or suicide, alcoholism, and drug overdoses, particularly from opioid painkillers — are a growing problem for midlife white people.

2) Deaths from chronic diseases such as diabetes have been rising

3) The least-educated Americans are suffering the most

4) Other nonwhite racial groups aren’t experiencing the same mortality uptick — so it’s not just about income

5) This story is unique to the US

“Mortality rates in comparable rich countries have continued their pre-millennial fall at the rates that used to characterize the US. “In contrast to the US, mortality rates in Europe are falling for those with low levels of educational attainment, and are doing so more rapidly than mortality rates for those with higher levels of education.”

If American wants to turn the trend around, then it has to become a little more like other countries with more generous safety nets and more accessible health care, the researchers said. Introducing a single-payer health system, for example, or value-added or goods and services taxes that support a stronger safety net would be top of their policy wish list. (America right now is, of course, moving in the opposite direction under Trump, and shredding the safety net.)

http://www.vox.com/science-and-heal...ddle-class-dying-faster-explained-case-deaton
 
Why the white middle class is dying faster, explained in 5 charts
The complicated collapse of middle-aged white Americans.


In a new 60-page paper, “Mortality and morbidity in the 21st Century,” out in draft form in the Brookings Papers on Economic Activity Thursday, the researchers weave a narrative of “cumulative disadvantage” over a lifetime for white people ages 45 through 54, particularly those with low levels of education.

1) Suicides, alcohol, and drug overdose deaths have gone up across the entire country.

Maps_deathsofdespair__1_.png


“Deaths of despair” — or suicide, alcoholism, and drug overdoses, particularly from opioid painkillers — are a growing problem for midlife white people.

2) Deaths from chronic diseases such as diabetes have been rising

3) The least-educated Americans are suffering the most

4) Other nonwhite racial groups aren’t experiencing the same mortality uptick — so it’s not just about income

5) This story is unique to the US

“Mortality rates in comparable rich countries have continued their pre-millennial fall at the rates that used to characterize the US. “In contrast to the US, mortality rates in Europe are falling for those with low levels of educational attainment, and are doing so more rapidly than mortality rates for those with higher levels of education.”

If American wants to turn the trend around, then it has to become a little more like other countries with more generous safety nets and more accessible health care, the researchers said. Introducing a single-payer health system, for example, or value-added or goods and services taxes that support a stronger safety net would be top of their policy wish list. (America right now is, of course, moving in the opposite direction under Trump, and shredding the safety net.)

http://www.vox.com/science-and-heal...ddle-class-dying-faster-explained-case-deaton
Certainly agree about single payer, should have had that decades ago!

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actually there is quite a bit of proposed legislation that is b.s., that people know have zero chance of passing but they put together to score points among their supporters.

How deep into the weeds would you like to go on charter schools and the Democrats effort to fight them?

You can go as deep as you like my friend .. just be aware that I'll counter with demonstrated evidence of the wisdom of fighting charter schools. They are NOT a solution to education.

More germane to this discussion, how much has the Republican Party attempted to spend money to educate workers?

Increasing evidence has demonstrated a greater demand for re-training and affordable healthcare for the white working class, else they fall into despair, ill health, and die.
 
He knew that there was no chance to get it passed by Congress.

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That's not true. He didn't want to pass it.

He supported single-payer during the campaign .. ran from it after he was elected.

That set up the never to heal division between Obama and Sanders .. which still exists.
 
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