A majority of white voters elected THE worst president in history. Intelligent???

:0) Kiss my ass.

Try an intellectual argument that refutes and counters what I post .. instead of trying to pretend that your limp dick ass has the power to make me do anything.

I dare you to even try it.

C'mon dummy .. let's hear it. :0) .. or just run away.
What's to refute? You were saying the same old shit day after day even before Trump was inaugurated. It is truly tedious, if you don't like that then tough titty. Trump may well turn out to be a terrible President but I am willing to see what happens.

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What's to refute? You were saying the same old shit day after day even before Trump was inaugurated. It is truly tedious, if you don't like that then tough titty. Trump may well turn out to be a terrible President but I am willing to see what happens.

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Then why are you here?

Obviously you don't have the intellect to challenge what's being discussed .. and unbeknownst to a stupid motherfucker like you .. discussion is what this is. 14 pages and counting.

Everyone doesn't have to agree, but many have stated their positions without the imbecilic ignorance that you bring.

YOU may be willing to see what Trump brings .. but YOU don't count. You're not an American. You may be willing to wait .. but AMERICANS .. who have a stake in what Trump is .. have already voiced their displeasure with his actions .. including many who voted for him.

I repeat, you don't have the intellect for this .. and I just demonstrated that

What's to refute?

Try harder. :0)


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Then why are you here?

Obviously you don't have the intellect to challenge what's being discussed .. and unbeknownst to a stupid motherfucker like you .. discussion is what this is. 14 pages and counting.

Everyone doesn't have to agree, but many have stated their positions without the imbecilic ignorance that you bring.

YOU may be willing to see what Trump brings .. but YOU don't count. You're not an American. You may be willing to wait .. but AMERICANS .. who have a stake in what Trump is .. have already voiced their displeasure with his actions .. including many who voted for him.

I repeat, you don't have the intellect for this .. and I just demonstrated that

What's to refute?

Try harder. :0)

Yeh you keep saying it's an internal matter but that's just bollocks, the president of the USA potentially affects everybody so stop with that fatuous bullshit. If Ma Clinton had started a nuclear war do you think we'd be unaffected?

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Where is the intelligence?

Every 4 years during the presidential elections, a plethora of white republicans will slide from under the rocks to question the intelligence of black voters who support the Democratic Party that supports them instead of the virtually all-white Republican Party that doesn't. Their comments get flavored with lots of references to 'plantations' and 'slaves.' This past election was no different.

The implication is that whites know better .. and perhaps politics is above the heads of black voters. So in their 'wisdom' .. a majority of white voters elected the absolute worst president in American history .. a celebrity clown and buffoon .. a complete failure in under two months.

Given the propensity of white republicans to always question the political intelligence of black voters .. surely it's fair to question the intelligence of that majority of white voters who elected a danger and total embarrassment to this nation .. or more correctly stated, the lack of intelligence.

Where is the intelligence in electing a loud-mouth lying celebrity with no legislative experience to be the President of the United States? Where?

Trump is no surprise, he's exactly as advertised .. a clown .. a clown who hates people .. particularly people with non-white skin. How's that working out for you?

Get rid of Obamacare? Sure, go ahead and do it .. what are you waiting on? Oh wait .. millions of whites who vote republican are benefitting from Obamacare and don't want to let it go. It seems they've spent 8 years voting against their own best interests. Where was the intelligence in that? Truth is, white republican voters spend a lot of time voting against their best interests. 9 of out the 10 poorest states in the country, and 97 out of the 100 poorest counties in America are republican controlled .. and their citizens benefit from the safety nets legislated by democrats. Maybe Trump will help them grow up as he attempts to yank away their healthcare in preference to his rich friends.

You should have been smarter.

Trump and Obama-hate have made it MORE likely that another Black president will sit in the Oval Office leading this nation again. Compared to Trump, Obama looks, thinks, and acts far more presidential and sane. Trump and his voters have only embellished Obama's legacy in ways that he himself never could.

Trump is an embarrassment and danger .. and at the same time, the best thing that could have happened to this nation. He exposes the overt racism that is America. He exposes the glaring failures of the republican agenda .. and he exposes the undeniable lack of intelligence of that majority of white voters who elected him.

I agree....the majority of WHITE PEOPLE elected one the most ignorant presidents in US History...one Barry Soetoro.

This is a majority WHITE CHRISTIAN NATION. One of the major problems that this nations faces today...is RACE BAITING.
 
Start from here brother .. I don't give a fuck about 'credit.' Take your credit and give it to someone you like. I don't care.
well, I DID like you. maybe I shouldn't.

Secondly, the thought that democrats are responsible for whom republicans vote for is mindless. Why would I need 'credit' from someone who believes that stupid shit? :0) Seriously
seriously, THIS election turned out to be one of those that puts 20% of voters in 'independent' status. sure, the die hard democrats and republicans weren't going to vote for anybody else BUT the letter after their name. however, those that tend more towards being independent either voted for trump or they voted for bernie or johnson. So yes, the DNC is partially responsible for trumps victory.

Trump won over Hillary because A MAJORITY OF WHITE VOTERS thought he was the lesser evil .. that you claim democrats put in their heads. :0) .. through osmosis probably.
read above. SOME democrats were SO PUT OFF BY DNC MANIPULATION, they chose to vote trump over hillary. That's your parties issue, not anyone elses.

That doesn't make him the lesser evil .. it means the people who voted for a clownish celebrity with no legislative experience were stupid.
this is YOU trying to make yourself FEEL better about who you supported vs. the majority of voters who made you look like a moron for your choice of nominee. Don't go away mad, just go away.

Did you vote for him? If you did .. you were stupid. Democrats didn't do that to you .. you did.
YOU are one of those I find extremely infuriating when discussing political issues. YOU are stuck on party, so much so that you can't even remember that I voted for johnson....even after telling you THREE FUCKING TIMES already.

If celebrity democrats .. or any democrats, martians, or space clowns told republicans to nominate Trump, it's because they believe that Trump was an easy target. After all, you'd have to be stupid to vote for a clown for president.
have you not seen the multitude of youtube videos out there from celebrities laughing about trump being nominated or practically BEGGING for him to run.....so much so that they KNEW hillary would win if he was nominated??????? and look what happened. you should feel pretty fucking stupid for your choice of nominee instead of trying to blame a majority of voters being stupid. it makes you look rather moronic.
 
Yeh you keep saying it's an internal matter but that's just bollocks, the president of the USA potentially affects everybody so stop with that fatuous bullshit. If Ma Clinton had started a nuclear war do you think we'd be unaffected?

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:0) If any American president starts a nuclear war you'd be in the same place you were during World War 2 .. dependent on America to save you. :0) We like you brits .. we'd save you. But whether we do or don't .. you still have no voice in this country .. which in your case is a very good thing. You support a clown who wanted TANKS at his inauguration.

Trump has only been in office 5 minutes and already he's threatening war.

If ANY American president starts a nuclear war .. we're all fucked .. Clinton knows that .. Trump does not.
 
Make that .. INCREDIBLY STUPID 'Trump is not a racist' crap. :0)

Obama worst president in history? .. Trump needs more time?

Not sure what benchmark you use in your world .. but in under just two months, Trump has the lowest approval in 74 years. The only president to get an approval rating lower than Trump was Truman .. 7 years into his administration.

Trump's historic low rating is during his 'honeymoon' .. undoubtedly it will go lower. Know anything about history? Any idea what Obama's was at this point in his terms?

I could go on .. and on with assessment and comparisons between Trump and Obama .. but I'm not sure you're up for that .. you know, fact based stuff.

so you base worse vs best President on approval ratings?
ok

and before you go bloaviating about Obamas accomplishments, make sure they are real, and not the standard "he saved us from the great recession, Obamacare insured millions, he killed Bin laden.
because
this stuff is what I do, and I blow 95% of any Obama accomplishment claims out of the water on a daily basis in my editorials, based on "FACTS".

Trump is just getting started, if you are not happy just two months in, you have a looong 8 years ahead.
His coming policies are grounded in things we should all be on board with, ILLEGAL immigration, affordable health care for all, cleaning up the inner cities, wiping out ISIS (for real). Jobs, leveling the playing field for the American worker with our trade agreements. the list is long if you give him a chance you may be surprised.

the racist stuff is just out of line, he is a lot of things, not all good, but he is not a racist.

I don't want to argue in the mud with you here like I see a lot going on.
So I offer peace, if you would like to discuss politics with that in mind I would be happy to, but I see no point in calling each other names to see who can be the ugliest.
 
I don't have an issue with people because I disagree with them. The issue with you is your straight up racism and then being a pussy.

It's not about you disagreeing with them but them disagreeing with you.

Your issue is you think anyone that doesn't believe like you is stupid. That's what you last post basically said.
 
well, I DID like you. maybe I shouldn't.

seriously, THIS election turned out to be one of those that puts 20% of voters in 'independent' status. sure, the die hard democrats and republicans weren't going to vote for anybody else BUT the letter after their name. however, those that tend more towards being independent either voted for trump or they voted for bernie or johnson. So yes, the DNC is partially responsible for trumps victory.

read above. SOME democrats were SO PUT OFF BY DNC MANIPULATION, they chose to vote trump over hillary. That's your parties issue, not anyone elses.


this is YOU trying to make yourself FEEL better about who you supported vs. the majority of voters who made you look like a moron for your choice of nominee. Don't go away mad, just go away.


YOU are one of those I find extremely infuriating when discussing political issues. YOU are stuck on party, so much so that you can't even remember that I voted for johnson....even after telling you THREE FUCKING TIMES already.

have you not seen the multitude of youtube videos out there from celebrities laughing about trump being nominated or practically BEGGING for him to run.....so much so that they KNEW hillary would win if he was nominated??????? and look what happened. you should feel pretty fucking stupid for your choice of nominee instead of trying to blame a majority of voters being stupid. it makes you look rather moronic.

I like you too .. but you don't get to use like and credit as a weapon when you can't deal with what I'm saying.

Your claim that the DNC is responsible for Trump's victory makes no sense at all. You're looking to absolve republicans of their own responsibility for Trump. You're looking to blame democrats for the idiocy of voting for a clown 'reality' show host for president. Get real man. If they didn't like Clinton, there were more choices on the ballot than Trump.

If the election were held again today .. do you think Trump would win?

Those and ANY democrats who voted for Trump were just as ignorant as their ignorant republican counterparts. The nonsense that 'Clinton' made me do it is pure 8th grade 'logic.'

I do recognize the desire to distance oneself from a Trump vote, but 'I was drunk, high, depressed, on OxyContin, and stupid' would be a far better excuse to use then Clinton made me do it. Is that what you're doing?

I don't need to make myself feel better about who I voted for .. I didn't vote for a racist loud-mouth braggart and clown .. and perpetual liar with no legislative experience for president. :0) Why in the hell do you think that I'M the one who needs to feel better about my vote. :0) That's silly.

I imagine I am infuriating to talk politics with .. to people who don't know shit about politics. What in the hell are you defending?

I'm all about party???? :0) Who did I vote for in 2008 .. answer: Cynthia McKinney, not the democrat. How about 2012 -- Jill Stein, not the democrat. Try harder.
 
It's not about you disagreeing with them but them disagreeing with you.

Your issue is you think anyone that doesn't believe like you is stupid. That's what you last post basically said.

You really get off on these word games.

I'm a pretty simple straight forward person. I said you are racist because you are. I also said you are a pussy because you are. Pretty basic and simple.
 
give us all PROOF of your Ideas working in practice


You wont find one

Pretty easy to tell who the cubicle dweller is here. Every successful business in this country is "proof" of these ideas working in practice. Quite obvious something you know nothing about. Next stupid question?
 
:0) If any American president starts a nuclear war you'd be in the same place you were during World War 2 .. dependent on America to save you. :0) We like you brits .. we'd save you. But whether we do or don't .. you still have no voice in this country .. which in your case is a very good thing. You support a clown who wanted TANKS at his inauguration.

Trump has only been in office 5 minutes and already he's threatening war.

If ANY American president starts a nuclear war .. we're all fucked .. Clinton knows that .. Trump does not.
In WW2, we saved you!

Without us you'd never have had D-Day or Operation Overlord. Without us, the Middle East would have been controlled by the Nazis and indeed so would Africa, India and Burma. Without us, you would have had several adversaries on both the seaboards. Without us, the Soviet Union would have been conquered and a land route between Germany and Japan established via Russia.

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so you base worse vs best President on approval ratings?
ok

and before you go bloaviating about Obamas accomplishments, make sure they are real, and not the standard "he saved us from the great recession, Obamacare insured millions, he killed Bin laden.
because
this stuff is what I do, and I blow 95% of any Obama accomplishment claims out of the water on a daily basis in my editorials, based on "FACTS".

Trump is just getting started, if you are not happy just two months in, you have a looong 8 years ahead.
His coming policies are grounded in things we should all be on board with, ILLEGAL immigration, affordable health care for all, cleaning up the inner cities, wiping out ISIS (for real). Jobs, leveling the playing field for the American worker with our trade agreements. the list is long if you give him a chance you may be surprised.

the racist stuff is just out of line, he is a lot of things, not all good, but he is not a racist.

I don't want to argue in the mud with you here like I see a lot going on.
So I offer peace, if you would like to discuss politics with that in mind I would be happy to, but I see no point in calling each other names to see who can be the ugliest.

:0) I would be more than happy to civilly discuss politics with you brother. I respond in kind. Nasty people get nasty responses. Civil people get civil responses.

I look forward to your fact-based conversations about Obama and anyone else. Research is what I do.

Whatever you think of Obamacare .. it has republicans in a quandary and running scared. After almost 8 years of attacks on it, they still can't figure it out. Turn on you TV right now if you don't know that. It's at an all time high .. and no one is clamoring for the republican plan, championed by Trump. Start there.

With regards to Trump .. you may think he's going to be there 8 years .. but he isn't. By what measure do you think he would be re-elected? You never said what measure you use to judge anything .. but respectfully .. emotions don't count.

You're fact-based .. what tells you Trump would last 8 years?

Trump has an avowed racist sitting right nest to him, advising him on policy. Please save the 'Trump is not a racist' thing. That's a waste of time. I respect your right to disagree.
 
In WW2, we saved you!

Without us you'd never have had D-Day or Operation Overlord. Without us, the Middle East would have been controlled by the Nazis and indeed so would Africa, India and Burma. Without us, you would have had several adversaries on both the seaboards. Without us, the Soviet Union would have been conquered and a land route between Germany and Japan established via Russia.

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:rofl2: You dummies would be speaking German without FDR's intervention to save you.

.. but you go right ahead and believe you saved us. :0)
 
:rofl2: You dummies would be speaking German without FDR's intervention to save you.

.. but you go right ahead and believe you saved us. :0)
I don't deny that US involvement tipped the balance. However your history is so skewed, you just don't want to contemplate what would have happened if we were conquered. It is a fact that all of Europe, the Middle East, Africa, Asia and Australia would have been in Axis control and only a fool could think otherwise. You might also want to consider that conquering Russia would have given the Nazis access to vast quantities of uranium.

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Oh, another arrogant asshole that assumes what he says is correct and others are stupid because they don't agree. Why don't you and cawacko get together.
I would like that. I mean we don't agree on a lot of things and he certainly isn't a Hoople but I'd spot Waco a beer anytime. :)
 
I don't deny that US involvement tipped the balance. However your history is so skewed, you just don't want to contemplate what would have happened if we were conquered. It is a fact that all of Europe, the Middle East, Africa, Asia and Australia would have been in Axis control and only a fool could think otherwise. You might also want to consider that conquering Russia would have given the Nazis access to vast quantities of uranium.

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What I need to do is stop this. I have a lot of respect for the British, although not its parliamentary system of government. Playing with you has caused me to say things about the British people that I don't really mean.

History clearly demonstrates FDR's critical role in saving England .. to the extent that he turned a blind eye to Pearl Harbor. He allowed it to happen to get America into the war. That's not popular, but I'm reading History .. not His-story.

I also recognize the importance of the brits in the war .. that being said, I'd rather engage in constructive argument .. so, let's just agree to not talk to each other.
 
I like you too .. but you don't get to use like and credit as a weapon when you can't deal with what I'm saying.
I told you the reality of the situation. more independents felt trump was the lesser of two evils, therefore hillary lost.

Your claim that the DNC is responsible for Trump's victory makes no sense at all. You're looking to absolve republicans of their own responsibility for Trump. You're looking to blame democrats for the idiocy of voting for a clown 'reality' show host for president. Get real man. If they didn't like Clinton, there were more choices on the ballot than Trump.
you're confusing the elections in the US with that of Iraq during husseins reign. we had 5 candidates with at least a 5% chance of the vote, which means that those who would NORMALLY vote Democrat, but could not stomach hillary, could vote for trump, bernie, johnson, or even the really dumb woman on the green party ticket. The problem with the 10 to 15% of those who identify as democrats but could not in good conscience vote for hillary, most likely voted for trump because of their retarded ideology of '3rd parties cannot win'. This you can place squarely in the laps of the DNC, since both major parties push this theory 110% of the time.

If the election were held again today .. do you think Trump would win?
yes, just not by as wide a margin.

Those and ANY democrats who voted for Trump were just as ignorant as their ignorant republican counterparts. The nonsense that 'Clinton' made me do it is pure 8th grade 'logic.'
what do you think happened then? did those democrats who voted for trump walk in the booth blindfolded and pull whichever lever they could touch first?

I do recognize the desire to distance oneself from a Trump vote, but 'I was drunk, high, depressed, on OxyContin, and stupid' would be a far better excuse to use then Clinton made me do it. Is that what you're doing?
it's not what i'm doing, it's what those who identify as democrats did. take it up with them. not me.

I don't need to make myself feel better about who I voted for .. I didn't vote for a racist loud-mouth braggart and clown .. and perpetual liar with no legislative experience for president. :0) Why in the hell do you think that I'M the one who needs to feel better about my vote. :0) That's silly.
because a large portion of your voting base felt strongly enough about the negative sides of clinton that they decided trump was a slightly better option. it's the equivalent of deciding between drinking bleach (clinton) and drinking the worst moonshine ever made (trump) it's an easy choice when you know you just have to plug your nose when you drink.

I imagine I am infuriating to talk politics with .. to people who don't know shit about politics. What in the hell are you defending?
i'm not defending anything. i'm simply explaining why the clintonites lost the election, much to their dismay. remember, I voted for johnson because I saw the inanity and insanity in the two major candidates. my conscience and principles have never been clearer in my choice.

I'm all about party???? :0) Who did I vote for in 2008 .. answer: Cynthia McKinney, not the democrat. How about 2012 -- Jill Stein, not the democrat. Try harder.
and who did you vote for in 2016? If you voted for clinton, explain why. if you voted third party, why are you bitching about the morons who chose the 2nd worst candidate ever over the 1st worst candidate ever?
 
What I need to do is stop this. I have a lot of respect for the British, although not its parliamentary system of government. Playing with you has caused me to say things about the British people that I don't really mean.

History clearly demonstrates FDR's critical role in saving England .. to the extent that he turned a blind eye to Pearl Harbor. He allowed it to happen to get America into the war. That's not popular, but I'm reading History .. not His-story.

I also recognize the importance of the brits in the war .. that being said, I'd rather engage in constructive argument .. so, let's just agree to not talk to each other.
Up to you, but that old canard about FDR allowing Pearl Harbour to happen ought to have been ridiculed and refuted years ago. That is just another of the many conspiracy theories that you seem to love.

http://www.npr.org/2016/12/06/50444...-the-japanese-were-going-to-bomb-pearl-harbor

http://www.npr.org/2016/12/06/50444...-the-japanese-were-going-to-bomb-pearl-harbor

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