A good case and argument for torture....

Dixie said:
Hey, I'm just saying....

Look, I can see the argument about torturing people who MAY have information, and the points about how that kind of interrogation doesn't often produce accurate results... but in this particular case, we know that vander Sloot knows what happened to Natalie Holloway, the little shit is just not talking! I think 15 minutes with Bruno might actually result in bringing closure for the Holloway family.

Sorry about your principles, mine revolve around what is right and wrong, and justice prevailing. Having Bruno beat the living dog shit out of this punk until he tells us where the body of Natalie Holloway is, and what happened, is completely in line with MY principles.
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Your principals certantly do revolve!
 
Southern Man said:
Sloot is a typical elitist home-boy rich kid who looks at tourists with disdain. Holloway was a fool to mess with him and unfortunately paid the extreme price for her mistake.

She's dead and it doesn't matter where the body is. Probably fish meal.

Sloot deserves to die, after being Bruno's receptacle for at least ten years.
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Death is too light a punishment for this guy. He should have to sit in a cell for the next 80 years.
 
My experience with criminals, I was a prosecutor for three years, is that they often will re-commit the same crime over and over in an attempt to get the punnishment they deserve. Often they are trying to get caught, just not overtly, and they try to weasle out of it at the last second.

My opinion, this guy is wrecked with guilt over what he did to Holiway and secretly wants to get punished. He just cant bring himself to admit what he did.
 
Dixie said:
Setting aside the fact that I believe a little torture might actually do you some good, if you knew for certain where you hid a body of someone you murdered, I would indeed favor 15 minutes of Bruno for you.

Having personally spoken with Natalies Dad, I can assure you he would indeed favor my idea, with one small exception, he would want to play the part of Bruno! Mott, I want you to take your stupid hat off for a moment, and just pretend Natalie Holloway was your sister... you're telling me you wouldn't want to get this punk alone in a room for 15 minutes?
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You're right and you're wrong.

You're right that it probably would do me some good.....but no way in hell am I paying extra. I expect have my torture at the standard rate.


You're wrong in that I would not condone legalized torture even if it was my sister. At least not under the umbrella of the law. Oh sure, if he'd kill my sister I'd have no problem getting midevil on his ass but I'd do that knowing that if I got caught I'd have to pay a price under the rule of law. I'd in no way be willing to legitimize torture under the law.

Justice is blind and so is the law. If they could torture a vile creature like Vander Sloot they could do it to your sister just cause they don't like her.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Hey if Bruno is torturing Vander Sloot outside the scope of the law.....Hey that's Bruno's shot to call....I don't have a dog in that fight.
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If I were Bruno's prosecutor he might just accidently get a very good plea deal if prosecuted, but I would not condone it!
 
This case does not offer a good argument for torture. I would not mind them making his jail/prison stay uncomfortable as hell (e.g., solitary confinement, maybe even keep the lights on) until he cooperates. But no physical torture, hell no! The only time that could possibly be justified is in one of those stupid 24 scenarios where there is some imminent threat to others that might be averted with a piece of information. Those cases are extremely rare, though, and I am not sure I trust the government not to abuse such a premise.
 
Bottom line, its a foreign legal system, and therefore none of our business, except in terms of us following world news and staying informed. In other words, purely academic.
 
SSgt said:
Bottom line, its a foreign legal system, and therefore none of our business, except in terms of us following world news and staying informed. In other words, purely academic.
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I would agree for our government. But with extraordinary rendition having been a known practice, it is definitely our business as citizens to make sure our government doesn't outsource torture.
 
RStringfield said:
I would agree for our government. But with extraordinary rendition having been a known practice, it is definitely our business as citizens to make sure our government doesn't outsource torture.
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True, but we didn't rendite Joran to Peru. He was vacationing there. Plus, neither he, nor his latest victim are American.
 
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