A bullet dodged

social security can and should be fixed. The govt is already setting up shop for national healthcare or some form of it with the national medical records database.. that train already left the station for those of you not paying attention.
 
Superfreak said:
LOL.... like you would disagree with your loverboy.... As we stated, his 'tweaks' involve raising taxes to cover the higher payouts that will be needed etc... He knows the problem is real, he just wants to downplay it so that people will stop talking about privatization. His opinion is not based on economics in this case, it is based on ideology. So his Nobel prize in Economics and his books on Economics are irrelevant when he trumps economics with ideology.
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You have no idea what his opinion is based on, so stop talking shit. Like your non-nobel prize winning, non-Princeton, non academic book writing, opinion is based on anything other than your jackass ideology. Get real.

Of course you would assume that a economist of his caliber bases his conclusions on the same horseshit you base yours on. Talk about hubris.

And Reagan raised taxes on SS jackass, if we have to do it again, too bad. you guys licked it up and asked for more when one of your own did it.
 
Obama likes the doughnut hole approach on social security. nothing between 100-200k then starts back up.
 
Darla said:
Oh that's right.

No wonder SF is freaking out.

Ha ha, won't effect me! ;)
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i doubt hes making over 200large but hell anything is possible. generally only execs and high end sales makes over 200 in corporate America. Tho you fools in NYC play by different rules. Got a friend doing same shit as me making close to 200.. his job is actually easier but his commute sucks bigfoots dick.
 
Darla said:
You have no idea what his opinion is based on, so stop talking shit. Like your non-nobel prize winning, non-Princeton, non academic book writing, opinion is based on anything other than your jackass ideology. Get real.

Of course you would assume that a economist of his caliber bases his conclusions on the same horseshit you base yours on. Talk about hubris.

And Reagan raised taxes on SS jackass, if we have to do it again, too bad. you guys licked it up and asked for more when one of your own did it.
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LMAO.... there ya go getting all emotional again...

My opinion is based on basic fundamentals of MATH and economics. One does not have to write books on economics to understand economics. One most certainly does not have to go to or teach at an Ivy league school to understand economics.

Again, Krugman understands economics. But he is snowing people like you with his 'there is no problem here, do NOT look behind the curtain' bullshit on SS.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul does not work.... eventually that scheme blows up. Just ask Madoffs investors. For SS, unless you have constant numbers in the workforce and in retirement with constant returns on the money invested, with a stable average life expectancy sooner or later it blows up on you.

What do we have today? The largest generation in our country is getting set to retire. The SS funds have not been invested, even worse, they have been stolen by the idiots in DC who now have to come up with the money they borrowed. Average life expectancy continues to increase, meaning longer periods of payments to bene's.

But yeah, you go on believing your blessed little author/professor/nobel prize winner.... because all of those things means he can't possibly be wrong (or lying)
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO.... there ya go getting all emotional again...

My opinion is based on basic fundamentals of MATH and economics. One does not have to write books on economics to understand economics. One most certainly does not have to go to or teach at an Ivy league school to understand economics.

Again, Krugman understands economics. But he is snowing people like you with his 'there is no problem here, do NOT look behind the curtain' bullshit on SS.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul does not work.... eventually that scheme blows up. Just ask Madoffs investors. For SS, unless you have constant numbers in the workforce and in retirement with constant returns on the money invested, with a stable average life expectancy sooner or later it blows up on you.

What do we have today? The largest generation in our country is getting set to retire. The SS funds have not been invested, even worse, they have been stolen by the idiots in DC who now have to come up with the money they borrowed. Average life expectancy continues to increase, meaning longer periods of payments to bene's.

But yeah, you go on believing your blessed little author/professor/nobel prize winner.... because all of those things means he can't possibly be wrong (or lying)
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Oh. So top down fiat currency based capitalism never blows up? You haven't been paying attention. Have you, brainwash victim?
 
AssHatZombie said:
Oh. So top down fiat currency based capitalism never blows up? You haven't been paying attention. Have you, brainwash victim?
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Tell us beaver, where did I say anything about fiat currency not blowing up?

I think moving away from the gold standard was one of the biggest mistakes this country has made. It gave too much power to the idiots in DC to simply provide one hand out after another without the means to pay for it.

We are talking about the problems with social security right now. IF you have anything of value to add to that, feel free.
 
I see this thread has devolved into another one of Superfreak's lessons on "how to win friends & influence people."

I take back my position on privatization. While it makes sense to me and I see no other alternative, it is much too unpalatable agreeing with Superfreak on anything.

Keep SS the way it is; I'm sure things will work out.
 
Superfreak said:
Tell us beaver, where did I say anything about fiat currency not blowing up?
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Well. You seem to have faith in a system based on it.
I think moving away from the gold standard was one of the biggest mistakes this country has made. It gave too much power to the idiots in DC to simply provide one hand out after another without the means to pay for it.

We are talking about the problems with social security right now. IF you have anything of value to add to that, feel free.
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Yes. It's such a huge mistake that any system based on it should be abandoned by rational people. But you're still it's little cheerleader.
 
Onceler said:
I see this thread has devolved into another one of Superfreak's lessons on "how to win friends & influence people."

I take back my position on privatization. While it makes sense to me and I see no other alternative, it is much too unpalatable agreeing with Superfreak on anything.

Keep SS the way it is; I'm sure things will work out.
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Of course, SF has to piss on every thread. It's a territory thing.
 
Onceler said:
I see this thread has devolved into another one of Superfreak's lessons on "how to win friends & influence people."

I take back my position on privatization. While it makes sense to me and I see no other alternative, it is much too unpalatable agreeing with Superfreak on anything.

Keep SS the way it is; I'm sure things will work out.
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Sorry Darla.... looks like he is not quite done with the hanky yet. You will have to wait.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Well. You seem to have faith in a system based on it.

Yes. It's such a huge mistake that any system based on it should be abandoned by rational people. But you're still it's little cheerleader.
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When you pull the shit out of your ass, do you taste it before you fling it or do you just lick your fingers afterwards?
 
Darla said:
Of course, SF has to piss on every thread. It's a territory thing.
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Once again getting overly emotional. When you calm down, feel free to come back and notice how intolerant you are. People come on discussion boards to discuss. You continue the conversation and then pretend that I should not.

Just take a sedative and relax. Lorax will be done with the hanky soon enough.
 
AssHatZombie said:
You support the fiat based system. Don't blame me for your own cognitive dissonance.
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Judging by the above, it appears you taste it before AND lick the fingers afterwards.

I just got done saying it was in my opinion the biggest mistake this country has made to remove the gold standard and somehow you interpret that as support of the fiat system?

I would say that conclusively puts your IQ somewhere around 40.
 
Superfreak said:
Judging by the above, it appears you taste it before AND lick the fingers afterwards.

I just got done saying it was in my opinion the biggest mistake this country has made to remove the gold standard and somehow you interpret that as support of the fiat system?

I would say that conclusively puts your IQ somewhere around 40.
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Yes. But you still invest and advocate investing in the sytem BASED UPON IT.

So your being AGAINST IT means nothing. You still put the full force of your meager intellect behind advocating investment in the totalitarian economies it creates.
 
Superfreak said:
Judging by the above, it appears you taste it before AND lick the fingers afterwards.

I just got done saying it was in my opinion the biggest mistake this country has made to remove the gold standard and somehow you interpret that as support of the fiat system?

I would say that conclusively puts your IQ somewhere around 40.
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Oh ok.
 
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