Yep, they are identical to those in a rock. The rock does not have the synapses and other biochemical
shit going on, either. You probably knew that, though.
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shit going on, either. You probably knew that, though.
Freddy Figbottom
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smart people shouldn't do such evil things.
I know you've normalized horrific acts in your own world, but that;s just sad for you.
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@Cypress does know. I think what he's curious about is why one is inanimate matter and the other is living matter. Maybe Magick? Woo? How did inanimate matter turn into living matter? Why can't we replicate this process?
Why?
Because one is a rock and the other is a human.
There. I solved the mystery for both of you.
Freddy Figbottom
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the "then" does not follow from your "if".
qed:
yes, you are all about demoalization, as I have noted many times.
yes, your worldview is demoralized and evil.
cooperation works, giving its practioners an advantage.
this is in line with survival of the fitness.
morality is a "group fitness" play.
culture matters.
even and even Jesus says everyone lies.
morality doesn't mean you are perfect. it means you try.
you have outed yourself a materialistic purveyor of evil.
I again claim thread victory in the name of Jesus the first Christian.
He's probably the best selling and most widely celebrated atheist author/influencer of the 21st century.
You can't really systematically learn a subject if you just read things you already know you're going to agree with -- which is exactly what the vast majority of militant atheists do. Bible thumpers do that too.
I'm currently reading Richard Dawkins and CS Lewis.
Freddy Figbottom
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it takes a lot of theology school to learn to worship Satan.
just as it takes a lot of law school to normalize shitting on the constitution.
just as it takes a lot of law school to normalize shitting on the constitution.
Freddy Figbottom
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and all you've learned is to reject actual morality.
you're a fraud and a failure and a purveyor of evil.
That's not an explanation.
Synapses and molecules are still made of the same basic subatomic particles. All electrochemical impulses still involve electrons.
Just hollering out that "it's more complex!" is a dodge. That doesn't explain how chemistry, aka complex atomic molecules acquire a moral law, free will, conscience, subjective mental experience.
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^^ ftfy... The militant atheists always end up getting angry when pushed to justify their worldview. That's no different than the Bible thumpers.you're a fraud and a failure and a purveyor of evil!
Freddy Figbottom
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Im not a militant Bible thumper.
half of it is bullshit. but the good is in there. as per the contract.
you just have no discernment.
morality is rational, but you're a psychotic war criminal wannabe.
You’ll have to pose that to one of our resident neuroscientists or cultural anthropologists. They may have an answer for you.
ftfy. You militant atheists always get angry when asked to to articulate how your materialistic worldview makes sense.you just have no discernment!
Good. Then we agree there is no answer we remotely know of for how chemistry can create a conscience, free will, a moral sensibility.
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Wow. Not much interested in science, are you? No worries since this is a point of commonality between you and your little friend, Perry PhD.
Soooo....no mystery. The old Clinton line is the Atheist motto? "It is what it is" and move on from there? Interesting.
Dutch Uncle
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Fredo is cray-cray. I'm guessing he plays with himself too much and doesn't have any friends offline. Sad.
Freddy Figbottom
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you're one saying morality should be abandoned because the body is made of electrons, or whatever your dumb shit was.
don't project your shit on me, dum dum psycho.
In a nutshell, that is the 64 thousand dollar question: how does life get animated from inanimate chemicals.
The Chinese thought there was a life force called Qi that animates sentient life. Could just be a bunch of bullshit, and certainly not empirically testable.
You always make common cause with militant atheists, so I'm free to assume you share their agenda.
Subatomic particles and chemistry don't have morality and conscience. If you want to hang your worldview on the idea that nothing exists but subatomic particles and chemistry, then have the integrity to admit to yourself morality is just your delusion, it's not real.
Freddy Figbottom
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you make common cause with their demoralization agenda,
as you admit below:
of course subatomic particles don't have morality, but humans do:
you're still trying to mix physics and morality, and it's fucking stupid.