A 10-day General Strike would CRIPPLE the wealthy

Althea said:
The worker drones keep the meat moving in this country. When Covid was killing them, it upset the entire apple cart. If we are to believe the 4 corporations that produce most of the meat, we could use a few thousand of the above referenced imports.
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Spoken like a True Capitalist.
 
Stone said:
Yep. But before they die she would really appreciate them throwing their loose change at her feet! :laugh:
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Let me be sure I understand your position. Socialism is never good, and would never produce results for the middle class that Capitalism does.

In theory you might be right, but Capitalism in this nation is actually Corporate Socialism. Delta got about 9 billion dollars from the Feds in '21.

How do you feel about that?
 
Althea said:
Delta got about 9 billion dollars from the Feds in '21.

How do you feel about that?
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Not a big fan of corporate bailouts at all. Wasnt much of a fan of the bank bailouts either. Too big to fail my ass.
 
Althea said:
If people had their job to return to, they should not have been given UI bennies for months after they could have returned to work. The Feds. aren't set up to manage giant influxes of emergency money into the economy. They throw money at the problem, and it's cheaper to have billions in waste/graft than it would be to pay an entire dept. to oversee disbursements. Sadly.

We all know people who had jobs to return to, but the bonus $300/week on top of UI pay was making them entirely too happy to stay home. Same money or more than they would make at work.

I didn't need either of the $1200 stimulus checks I was sent, but I accepted them.

There comes a point when fair is fair. People were facing eviction or starvation. Their choice. In the early stages of the UI enhancement, it was an emergency situation. It was certainly warranted.

Once the economy opened up the program should have ended for anyone with a job to return to.
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One little fault with what you said. When covid first began the federal enhancement for unemployment was 600.00, not 300.00. The 300 came much later. In my state the max benefit payed out for unemployment is about 375.00 per week and you dont have to earn that much to get it. 600+375 you are just under a 1000 bucks a week to do NOTHING. Not bad....hide and seek for a grand a week...
 
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T. A. Gardner said:
Yea, sure... Like past general strikes did that.

The railway strike of 1886 didn't
The Pullman strike of 1894 didn't
The coal strike of 1902 didn't
The steel strike of 1919 didn't
The railway strike of 1922 didn't
The UAW strike of 1946 didn't
The steel strike of 1952 didn't

You get the idea. Today there are fewer union members than ever and unions have far less power than they previously did. How the hell are they going to manage to do anything useful towards a general strike?
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Don't forget the 1926 General Strike in England!

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Stanley-Baldwin#ref108529
 
Stone said:
Not a big fan of corporate bailouts at all. Wasnt much of a fan of the bank bailouts either. Too big to fail my ass.
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But that's the policy of our brand of Capitalism. Time and time again. Socialize losses, and privatize profits.

So how is our brand of Capitalism working?

And why wouldn't that money be better spent on the citizens?
 
Stone said:
One little fault with what you said. When covid first began the federal enhancement for unemployment was 600.00, not 300.00. The 300 came much later. In my state the max benefit payed out for unemployment is about 375.00 per week and you dont have to earn that much to get it. 600+375 you are just under a 1000 bucks a week to do NOTHING. Not bad....hide and seek for a grand a week...
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In NY, if you had max UI it was over $1000/month at first. I can see that when everything shut down. But the landlords were the ones getting screwed. The program should have been guaranteeing rent payment with all of the cash being thrown around.
 
Jack said:
The insinuation is that Capitalists want 'excess Labor' to depress Wages. Lower 'Labor Costs' = 'Higher Profits'.
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It's cyclical, though. Right now there is a serious shortage of labor for a variety of reasons. Worst in the industries that process our food.

So why not import some of those drones?
 
Althea said:
But that's the policy of our brand of Capitalism. Time and time again. Socialize losses, and privatize profits.

So how is our brand of Capitalism working?

And why wouldn't that money be better spent on the citizens?
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Not a fan of handing out money to anyone be they corporations or private citizens.
 
Althea said:
It's cyclical, though. Right now there is a serious shortage of labor for a variety of reasons. Worst in the industries that process our food.

So why not import some of those drones?
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Higher Wages solves Labor Shortage. Naturally, Capitalists frown on that.
 
LV426 said:
They're so insulated that Delta's CEO panic-called over to the CDC to shorten the time by 5 days so his business didn't collapse.

This comes a year after businesses lobbied state governments to end unemployment benefits so their businesses didn't collapse.

Lots of worry from the top 1% about their businesses collapsing...apparently, capitalism is much more fragile than anyone thought.
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Are you ready for the next needlessly induced by Democrats Great Depression II? Grab your ankles, this is going to hurt.

But hey! No more mean tweets, amirite?

Twitter: Open to all, unless you have wrongthink.

Can't be thinking outside of the hive mind now. :nono:
 
Matt Dillon said:
Are you ready for the next needlessly induced by Democrats Great Depression II? Grab your ankles, this is going to hurt.

But hey! No more mean tweets, amirite?

Twitter: Open to all, unless you have wrongthink.

Can't be thinking outside of the hive mind now. :nono:
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How can there possibly be a depression when the Fed is still pumping billions into Wall St?
 
LV426 said:
You know how much leverage workers actually have in this economy? So much that the CEO of Delta had to call over to the CDC to reduce the quarantine time because if it was 10 days, his company would collapse.

Sounds to me like a General Strike of all workers would bring the business/CEO/donor class to their knees.

That's why they want schools open...so parents can go back to work in the office and stave off the inevitable commercial real estate collapse.

CEO Ed Bastian, along with the company's chief health officer and a medical adviser, asked in a letter to CDC Director Rochelle Walensky seen by Reuters that the agency's recommended quarantine period for anyone who tests positive with a breakthrough COVID-19 infection be reduced to five days from the current 10.
https://www.reuters.com/business/ae... Bastian, along with,days from the current 10.
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if you really care about american workers, look into tariffs and other reasonable things.
 
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