9th circuit upholds the 4th Amendment.

Jewel v. National Security Agency link leads to PDF of decision.

This case is one of many arising from claims that the federal government, with the assistance of major telecommunications companies, engaged in widespread warrantless eavesdropping in the United States following the September 11, 2001, attacks. At issue in this appeal is whether Carolyn Jewel and other residential telephone customers (collectively “Jewel”) have standing to bring their statutory and constitutional claims against the government for what they describe as a communications dragnet of ordinary American citizens.

In light of detailed allegations and claims of harm linking Jewel to the intercepted telephone, internet and electronic communications, we conclude that Jewel’s claims are not abstract, generalized grievances and instead meet the constitutional standing requirement of concrete injury. Nor do prudential considerations bar this action. Although there has been considerable debate and legislative activity surrounding the surveillance program, the claims do not raise a political question nor are they inappropriate for judicial resolution. Finally, we do not impose, as suggested by the government, a heightened standing requirement simply because the case involves government officials in the national security context. We reverse the district court’s dismissal on standing grounds and remand for further proceedings. We leave for the district court to consider in the first instance the government’s alternative argument that Jewel’s claims are foreclosed by the state secrets privilege.
 
Court didnt even address any 4th amendment issues. Merely held that they had standing to sue. Right to redress grievances is the 1st amendment.
 
Jewel v. National Security Agency link leads to PDF of decision.

This case is one of many arising from claims that the federal government, with the assistance of major telecommunications companies, engaged in widespread warrantless eavesdropping in the United States following the September 11, 2001, attacks. At issue in this appeal is whether Carolyn Jewel and other residential telephone customers (collectively “Jewel”) have standing to bring their statutory and constitutional claims against the government for what they describe as a communications dragnet of ordinary American citizens.

In light of detailed allegations and claims of harm linking Jewel to the intercepted telephone, internet and electronic communications, we conclude that Jewel’s claims are not abstract, generalized grievances and instead meet the constitutional standing requirement of concrete injury. Nor do prudential considerations bar this action. Although there has been considerable debate and legislative activity surrounding the surveillance program, the claims do not raise a political question nor are they inappropriate for judicial resolution. Finally, we do not impose, as suggested by the government, a heightened standing requirement simply because the case involves government officials in the national security context. We reverse the district court’s dismissal on standing grounds and remand for further proceedings. We leave for the district court to consider in the first instance the government’s alternative argument that Jewel’s claims are foreclosed by the state secrets privilege.

good for the 9th circuit court

i hope that they tackle the question of indefinite confinement without trial of us citizens
 
good for the 9th circuit court

i hope that they tackle the question of indefinite confinement without trial of us citizens

That was Obamas doing, along with assasinating US citizens without a trial. Most liberals, all of a sudden seem supportive of such policies since they are obamas.
 
Bush policies and actions never excluded American citizens.

Youre making the shit up as you go along. Bush's "Detention, Treatment, and Trial of Certain Non-Citizens in the War Against Terrorism" excluded them in the freakin title and the "Military Commissions Act" that replaced that policy-

"Any alien unlawful enemy combatant is subject to trial by military commission" and defines "alien" as
"a person who is not a citizen of the United States".
 
Youre making the shit up as you go along. Bush's "Detention, Treatment, and Trial of Certain Non-Citizens in the War Against Terrorism" excluded them in the freakin title and the "Military Commissions Act" that replaced that policy-

"Any alien unlawful enemy combatant is subject to trial by military commission" and defines "alien" as
"a person who is not a citizen of the United States".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamdi_v._Rumsfeld

only by USSC decision did those policies become null and void.
 

Im familiar with the FISA controversy. Want to point to something specific you wanted me to look at? If the US were to intercept my call to Zawahiri in Pakistan, they arent wiretapping my phone, they are wiretapping his. If the police were to legally wiretap my drug dealers phone ith a warrant, and monitor my call to him, I cant complain they didnt have a warrant to tap my phone. They dont need a warrant to monitor Zawahiris phone in Pakistan.
 
Not sure of your point. Before and after Hamdi, US Citizens were excluded. I have no problem whatsoever in denying foreign, enemy combatants, US constitutional rights. I would argue they arent entitled to ANY US constitutional rights.


Jose Padilla thinks you're full of shit.
 
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