8th grader suspended and arrested for wearing an NRA t-shirt??

Socrtease said:
Another thing I find interesting is that Mott is ONLY willing to believe the school. The kid in an interview with a news station says he never raised his voice and only JUST refused to remove the shirt. This is a kid that has otherwise a spotless record. Something else alluded to by the news reports. So a kid that has NEVER be a discipline problem just out of the blue causes such a disturbance that he gets arrested?
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Yeah, my kids always claim to be innocent and according to inmates, our prisons are full of innocent people. Lol
 
Socrtease said:
Another thing I find interesting is that Mott is ONLY willing to believe the school. The kid in an interview with a news station says he never raised his voice and only JUST refused to remove the shirt. This is a kid that has otherwise a spotless record. Something else alluded to by the news reports. So a kid that has NEVER be a discipline problem just out of the blue causes such a disturbance that he gets arrested?
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What I find interesting Soc is why would you lie and put words in my mouth? Huh?

This is completely out of character for you to direct an ad hom at me. Who pissed in your post toasties today?
 
NOVA said:
Mott is usually a fair and reasonable person...but somethimes ?
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I am fair and being reasonable. The OP was dishonest. The young man was suspended and arrested for his behavior, not what he was wearing. Whether his behavior warranted those actions is another discussion. I'm going to wait till I see more details....and I'll do so honestly.
 
Howey said:
Since the so-called father of this kid (apparently he's a stepfather...why won't he adopt him?) admits on his youtube channel (must see!) that he was arrested for resisting an officer and disrupting school, there's not much doubt about that, is there?
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Thanks for showing your level of hatred towards this family.

1) It is not his so-called father. It is his step father. Asking 'why won't he adopt him' is blatantly stupid. Did you ever stop to think the kids biological dad is still alive? Or do you think every step-parent should try to adopt their spouses kids from a previous relationship?

2) Yes, which doesn't tell us anything about what he did that supposedly caused a disruption. By all accounts thus far, it is the TEACHER that caused the disruption. But the student got sent to the principal because the abusive teacher didn't get his/her way.

3) The charge was obstructing the police, not resisting. Which could mean anything.
 
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Originally Posted by Socrtease
Your right he was arrested for just saying no. In my above scenario, if the kid got arrested for saying no to removing a MLK shirt we would all be outraged. But when it comes to guns, only some of us are.
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Strawman!
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Thats is not a strawman by any stretch....its a perfectly reasonable comparison of issues.....its all about the shirt, why deny that fact....
 
Rana said:
Yeah, my kids always claim to be innocent and according to inmates, our prisons are full of innocent people. Lol
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Yet what he stated is correct. Mutt is only willing to listen to the schools version of what happened. He completely ignores the students.
 
Superfreak said:
No one here, but the TEACHER did. Yet you and Mutt and others continue to ignore the FACT that the teacher is the one that acted inappropriately. The teacher is the one that should be suspended. Saying that an 8th grader reacted poorly to the abusive nature of the teacher and thus it is his fault is pure nonsense.
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I didn't ignore it, and I don't think Mott did, either. The teacher may have acted inappropriately, but the story is very vague on details, the school nor police have commented.

You don't like the school rules and the absolute authority the school has, then people need to challenge it, but again, if you have open defiance in school it sets a presidence that could cause utter chaos in schools. There has to be rules.

The school can not possibly list all the slogans on t-shirts that are not allowed. They set general guidelines and then rule based on offense. If you don't agree with the limitation of free speech, then, please attend a school board meeting and voice your disapproval.
 
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Mott the Hoople said:
I am fair and being reasonable. The OP was dishonest. The young man was suspended and arrested for his behavior, not what he was wearing. Whether his behavior warranted those actions is another discussion. I'm going to wait till I see more details....and I'll do so honestly.
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He was NOT arrested for his behavior. He was arrest for what the teacher SAID his behavior was. The kid said he never raised his voice, only refused to turn the shirt inside out.
 
Superfreak said:
Yet what he stated is correct. Mutt is only willing to listen to the schools version of what happened. He completely ignores the students.
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The school has not given a version, the police have not given a version. The only one who has made a statement is the boy and his father. The article stated he was arrested for disturbance and obstruction. People are arrested all the time and later proof their arrest was wrong.
 
Socrtease said:
He was NOT arrested for his behavior. He was arrest for what the teacher SAID his behavior was. The kid said he never raised his voice, only refused to turn the shirt inside out.
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Oh, the kid said he is innocent! There ya go, case closed! Lol
 
Rana said:
I didn't ignore it, and I don't think Mott did, either. The teacher may have acted inappropriately, but the story is very vague on details, the school nor police have commented.
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Odd that they haven't commented. Odd that the students wore the same t shirt the day he came back. Odd they weren't suspended.

You don't like the school rules and the absolute authority the school has, then people need to challenge it, but again, if you have open defiance in school it sets a presidence that could cause utter has in schools. There has to be rules.
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Pure nonsense. I have no problems with the rules. Neither did this kid. The problem is the that he didn't break the rules. The problem is the teacher tried to further his/her political agenda by bullying the kid. There was no justification for that. There do need to be rules... and when it is the TEACHER that violates the rules, it is the TEACHER that should be suspended.

The school can not possible list all the slogans on t-shirts that are not allowed. They set general guidelines and then rule based on offense. If you don't agree with the limitation of free speech, then, please attend a school board meeting and voice your disapproval.
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The school can also not let teachers arbitrarily decide what is and isn't acceptable. They set forth the guidelines, the kid followed them. The teacher violated them. If you want authoritarian crap like this to occur, by all means support such nonsense at your school board meeting. I will not.
 
I just read that he wore the same t-shirt when he went back to the school after the suspension, and a bunch of other students wore NRA t-shirts also.

Freedom lives.
 
Rana said:
Oh, the kid said he is innocent! There ya go, case closed! Lol
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Have you heard the school refute it? No. The school remains very quiet.

As for Mutt... yes, he is taking just the schools word for it. He keeps pointing to the fact the police said that the kid was disruptive and obstructive... which is based on whose testimony do you think? Oh yeah, the schools and the polices.
 
Superfreak said:
Have you heard the school refute it? No. The school remains very quiet.

As for Mutt... yes, he is taking just the schools word for it. He keeps pointing to the fact the police said that the kid was disr

uptive and obstructive... which is based on whose testimony do you think? Oh yeah, the schools and the polices.
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Bawhahahaha, the schools never comment on on going investigations. It opens them up to further legal action. You are grasping at straws.

You don't know the whole story, speculate all you wish. We do not know what happened once the kid was hauled to the office.
 
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