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Whatever you do, don't admit that obstructionist Righties could have compromised and removed the troubling language.
Again, they didn't. It was a resolution. The left objects to how the description is written but the resolution was to pass the budget provided by Obama.

And again, the reality is the budgets would never be voted on if the republicans left it up to the democrats. They, being in charge, could immediately offer the budgets provided by the President as a whole piece of legislation, but instead they ignore it and vote against every budget provided.

Reality: The Democrats have unanimously voted against the budgets offered by this President.
 
That wasn't the case when Clinton was President. There was plenty of bi-partisan legislation. Bush had Ted Kennedy and George Miller write the NCLB legislation. That was bi-partisan.

So in your opinion, what has changed to cause such a split?
 
Again, they didn't. It was a resolution. The left objects to how the description is written but the resolution was to pass the budget provided by Obama.

And again, the reality is the budgets would never be voted on if the republicans left it up to the democrats. They, being in charge, could immediately offer the budgets provided by the President as a whole piece of legislation, but instead they ignore it and vote against every budget provided.

Reality: The Democrats have unanimously voted against the budgets offered by this President.


And if congressional Righties were the least bit concerned about working with those across the aisle, they could have COMPROMISED and rewritten the resolution.
 
let's see...zappa is informed that all reid needed was a simple majority to pass the budget and zappa still claims that righties obstructed the vote

:rolleyes:
 
And if congressional Righties were the least bit concerned about working with those across the aisle, they could have COMPROMISED and rewritten the resolution.

And if the Democrats were actually interested in doing their job they could simply offer the budget as written as a whole piece of legislation, but they obstruct and provide whiney excuses about it.

Again the reality still is that the Democrats unanimously will not support this President's budgets, shoot they are so bad they wait until the republicans push for a vote on it before rejecting them unanimously and simply refuse to bring it up themselves.
 
let's see...zappa is informed that all reid needed was a simple majority to pass the budget and zappa still claims that righties obstructed the vote

:rolleyes:

Shoot, if Reid would simply bring it up for a vote it would be a miracle. In order to get any vote on those Budgets republicans have to offer resolutions, which they try to nitpick and pretend it is a reason to reject it unanimously.

They are so bad that not even one of them wants to show that they supported the budget, not even one.
 
So in your opinion, what has changed to cause such a split?

It takes two to tango. Republicans have no real desire to work with Obama and Obama has no real desire to work with them. By controlling only the House the Republicans don't have control of Congress like they did under Clinton in which they could get legislation passed and sent to the President. FUCK!!! Pass interference. Fuck!

And while Obama would like to pass bi-partisan legislation in theory I haven't seen him go out of his way to really present legislation Republicans would support.

Ulitimately it is a two street and there is blame on both sides. From Obama's perspective I just don't think he's a great leader. He's never had to pass bi-partisan legislation in his pass and it shows now.
 
Anyone who believes political parties, whether Democrat or Republican can directly cause a recession is stupid.

Anyone who believes a politcal party, whether Democrat or Republican can directly cause a recover is stupid.

This makes Liberals doubly stupid.

However, Congress (a combination of both parties) can influence the economy. And the economy went down mostly because of the Democrat "100 days of Progress" after they "took over" Congress during Bush's second term. And the economy has failed to recover because of Obama's lame-brained policies including Obamacare.

The incomprehensible part is how any human being with more than a brain stem could seriously vote for a guy who's failed for four years to accomplish what he promised to do. Or even try.
 
let's see...zappa is informed that all reid needed was a simple majority to pass the budget and zappa still claims that righties obstructed the vote

:rolleyes:

Once again Zappa is engaged in civil debate with others, then along comes Yurt with his taunts and derision.

So much for his claim of wanting civil discourse.
 
That wasn't the case when Clinton was President. There was plenty of bi-partisan legislation. Bush had Ted Kennedy and George Miller write the NCLB legislation. That was bi-partisan.

Was Clinton Black?
 
Once again Zappa is engaged in civil debate with others, then along comes Yurt with his taunts and derision.

So much for his claim of wanting civil discourse.

what was uncivil about my post? were you not informed about reid and did you not still claim righties (a derisive name for republicans) obstructed the vote?
 
what was uncivil about my post? were you not informed about reid and did you not still claim righties (a derisive name for republicans) obstructed the vote?

It doesn't matter.

Whatever I say you will merely claim I am wrong and then call me some more names.

I've seen it countless times before.

It's how you roll.
 
It doesn't matter.

Whatever I say you will merely claim I am wrong and then call me some more names.

I've seen it countless times before.

It's how you roll.

i see. i ask you to support your assertion that i was uncivil and all you to is attack me.

you're not helping yourself zappa. it is clear as day i was not uncivil to you. why did you claim i was?
 
How would that make Obama, or Clinton for that matter, incapable of reaching across the aisle?

Who said it would make Obama, or Clinton, for that matter, incapable of reaching across the aisle?
 
i see. i ask you to support your assertion that i was uncivil and all you to is attack me.

you're not helping yourself zappa. it is clear as day i was not uncivil to you. why did you claim i was?


You were derisive and this is just another example of how you love to play the clueless rube whenever anyone calls you on your bullshit.

All your protestations to the contrary won't change the facts.
 
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