49ers QB Colin Kaepernick refuses to stand for the national anthem

Thing1 said:
Please think before responding.

I mean, that's absolutely ridiculous. The chances of becoming a successful QB in the NFL - no matter how hard you work, 24x7 - are ridiculously small. Good lord.
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You don't get it.

It happens that Colin was blessed with a physical *aptitude*, which he had to develop over years in order to get his shot at the NFL. It's exceedingly rare that an individual is sufficiently gifted that they can cruise into the NFL and scored a few million. Maybe, a Bo Jackson could have done it. 99.9% of the rest devoted many, many hours in the gym and on the field developing their talent.

The identical principle applies to any individual with an innate aptitude, black white or purple. Yes, young black people have aptitudes. They should be encouraged to discover what they are instead of telling them the white man's world has the deck stacked against them.

Regarding Colin K: I saw the picture of him with the Castro shirt on and a ball cap with the big [Malcolm?] X on it. I'll wager he's not the best role model for young blacks.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Yes, young black people have aptitudes. They should be encouraged to discover what they are instead of telling them the white man's world has the deck stacked against them. Regarding Colin K: I saw the picture of him with the Castro shirt on and a ball cap with the big [Malcolm?] X on it. I'll wager he's not the best role model for young blacks.
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Let me know when you start mentoring young black people.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
You don't get it.

It happens that Colin was blessed with a physical *aptitude*, which he had to develop over years in order to get his shot at the NFL. It's exceedingly rare that an individual is sufficiently gifted that they can cruise into the NFL and scored a few million. Maybe, a Bo Jackson could have done it. 99.9% of the rest devoted many, many hours in the gym and on the field developing their talent.

The identical principle applies to any individual with an innate aptitude, black white or purple. Yes, young black people have aptitudes. They should be encouraged to discover what they are instead of telling them the white man's world has the deck stacked against them.

Regarding Colin K: I saw the picture of him with the Castro shirt on and a ball cap with the big [Malcolm?] X on it. I'll wager he's not the best role model for young blacks.
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Leaving aside agreeing or disagreeing with what he did his point was black people are oppressed, not him individually. And because one is successful it doesn't mean they can't speak out on behalf of others.

I'm not supporting Kap here but this idea that he can't speak out because he's successful completely misses the point.
 
"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000691077/article/colin-kaepernick-explains-why-he-sat-during-national-anthem
 
cawacko said:
Leaving aside agreeing or disagreeing with what he did his point was black people are oppressed, not him individually. And because one is successful it doesn't mean they can't speak out on behalf of others.

I'm not supporting Kap here but this idea that he can't speak out because he's successful completely misses the point.
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Kap can speak all he wants. And I can speak out in pointing out the irony lol.

What a great, unoppressive country we live in. Unlike Fidel's Cuba.

It's just that it exudes irony from so many angles.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Kap can speak all he wants. And I can speak out in pointing out the irony lol.

What a great, unoppressive country we live in. Unlike Fidel's Cuba.

It's just that it exudes irony from so many angles.
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There is no irony.

You're just disconnected from the racism that still exists here. It's amazing to me that you think so many people just seem to be making it up.
 
Thing1 said:
There is no irony.

You're just disconnected from the racism that still exists here. It's amazing to me that you think so many people just seem to be making it up.
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In his defense, he lives in a virtually all-white enclave. He has almost no frame of reference IRL.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I'm actually kind of amazed at how people make such a big issue out of this.

I mean this is America. You have the god given right to be an asshole. Why in the world should I care if anyone, let alone Kaepernick, stands for the National Anthem at a sporting event?

If someone doesn't want to stand for our flag...ok...fine...I'm standing. That's my choice.

It's been my experience that disrespectful behavior is a cry for attention and sometimes the best thing to do is just ignore it.

So if Kaepernick wants to sit during the national anthem, that's fine with me. Why should I care about Mr. Kaepernick?
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To put it in terms that you can understand, RGIII stands for the national anthem, while Vontaze probably sets fire to the flag. :D
 
Thing1 said:
There is no irony.

You're just disconnected from the racism that still exists here. It's amazing to me that you think so many people just seem to be making it up.
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There's plenty of irony there, you just don't want to acknowledge it.

Since you won't acknowledge the obvious irony of Kap wearing a T-Shirt glorifying Fidel, while talking about oppression, what do you suppose the point of his attire was?
 
cawacko said:
So you essentially decided to join this board to troll a troll. Great.
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So if I don't give a troll what he wants, then I'm trolling a troll. I've read a lot of your posts, and this is the first time I ever thought you were a complete and utter total fucking idiot. You've hit rock bottom. This isn't your finest day.

You give a troll what he wants. I won't
 
Zake said:
So if I don't give a troll what he wants, then I'm trolling a troll. I've read a lot of your posts, and this is the first time I ever thought you were a complete and utter total fucking idiot. You've hit rock bottom. This isn't your finest day.

You give a troll what he wants. I won't
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I hit rock bottom by saying don't feed the troll? Ok. Thank you.
 
Wolverine said:
Why now, it has been much worse in the past, although Obama has made it much worse again by making any criticizing of him racist! His black father, left his white mother, and he was adopted and raised by a loving caring white couple, who paid for all of his little football camps, and anything else, his is not a story of oppression. By the way is he housing any families in his palatial estate, feeding em buying them houses, with all the money he has made off of American citizens!
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Love the way you mention that Kap was so privileged because he was adopted by a white couple.

And yes, he supports a charity called Camp Taylor. Maybe you should google it.
 
Wolverine said:
They do by making good decisions and working their arses off just like any other successful Americans!
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“It took me a long time, and a number of people talking to me through the years to get a sense of this. If you are a normal, white American, the truth is you don’t understand being black in America and you instinctively under-estimate the level of discrimination and the level of additional risk.”
 
Wolverine said:
Rich guy has no idea what oppression is, it is voting for democrats who keep them on the plantation, giving them just enough to keep em coming back, and voting democrat. Democrat leaders know how to run the plantation, just give em enough to keep em happy and then blame rich white people which are just the people democrats are !
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Bingo. The old "plantation" shtick from someone who doesn't have a clue.
 
Zake said:
Well coward, no, we're not at all alike. You're a leftist not a liberal. That's why we have so little in common. Note how your posts are all about yourself and government, nothing about helping people
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You've been here about a week (ha ha) yet you're already claiming my posts are "all about myself..."

You must be a speed reader to get through 25K posts already.

Btw, you're putting out a strong Seahawkish vibe... just sayin'.
 
cawacko said:
A friend posted this on Facebook today:

This is not rocket science! Read the lyrics to the so called national anthem. The song is very anti Black so there is no reason Black people should stand for it. It is not anti soldier or anti police not to stand up. It is anti racism. And lastly as Black people we don't need to explain ourselves, read the lyrics and sit down or choose to celebrate slavery and stand up. Since high school I have sat down or stood and said a prayer because I was taught the history of the song then. Now as more Black people know more can make a choice. Thank you Kap and I pray more athletes sit down. With knowledge comes responsibility!- Shawn G.
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I personally don't care for the anthem because it glorifies war. Maybe I'll keep sitting the next time I hear it played or sung.
 
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