$400 million tax break for insurance executives under GOP Obamacare replacement plan

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Rep. Sander Levin, D-Mich., said that the tax break related to executive pay underscores the fact that the Republican replacement bill is "the beginning of a huge giveaway to the very, very wealthy," and the end of insurance coverage to millions of lower-income people.

"We're starting off... with essentially a giveaway to insurance executives," Levin said.


The proposed tax break, buried in cryptic language in the Republican plan, would allow health insurers to more fully deduct the value of their executives' compensation on their taxes. That compensation can be as high as tens of millions of dollars, in the case of CEOs of insurers.

Those deductions currently are sharply limited by the Affordable Care Act, which caps at a maximum of $500,000 the amount of an individual executive's compensation that an insurer could deduct as a business expense. The cap applies to any executive, not just to CEOs.

Thomas Barthold, chief of staff for the Joint Committee on Taxation, revealed the $400 million lost tax revenue estimate during the first day of review of the Obamacare replacement bill by the House Ways and Means Committee.

Barthold said that would be the total amount lost through 2026 if the bill became law this year.

If the bill is passed, Barthold said health insurers would be able to deduct up to $1 million of an individual executive's salary on their taxes, just like other types of U.S. companies.

But Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas, noted that the $1 million deduction cap only is on salary. Executive compensation that includes "performance pay" can, and routinely does, significantly exceed the amount of a health insurer CEO's salary.

Doggett pointed out that the pay of Aetna's (AET) CEO is more than $17 million, and Cigna's (CI) CEO's tops $13 million. Most, if not all of their pay, could be written off as business expenses if the Republican bill becomes law.

"It could be $100 million, and it would still be possible" to deduct the full CEO compensation?Doggett asked.

Barthold answered, "It would be possible."

Committee member Rep. Brian Higgins, R-NY, said "I don't think this provision is unjustifiable, and I think it's morally reprehensible."

The CEO of UnitedHealth (UNH), Higgins pointed out, alone made $66 million last year.

"We're sitting here talking about giving big insurance companies a tax break on the exorbitant compensation to pay their executives?" Higgins said. "We should repeal this provision and replace it with an admonishment to the insurance companies to get your salaries in line with reality."
 
Rep. Sander Levin, D-Mich., said that the tax break related to executive pay underscores the fact that the Republican replacement bill is "the beginning of a huge giveaway to the very, very wealthy," and the end of insurance coverage to millions of lower-income people.

"We're starting off... with essentially a giveaway to insurance executives," Levin said.


The proposed tax break, buried in cryptic language in the Republican plan, would allow health insurers to more fully deduct the value of their executives' compensation on their taxes. That compensation can be as high as tens of millions of dollars, in the case of CEOs of insurers.

Those deductions currently are sharply limited by the Affordable Care Act, which caps at a maximum of $500,000 the amount of an individual executive's compensation that an insurer could deduct as a business expense. The cap applies to any executive, not just to CEOs.

Thomas Barthold, chief of staff for the Joint Committee on Taxation, revealed the $400 million lost tax revenue estimate during the first day of review of the Obamacare replacement bill by the House Ways and Means Committee.

Barthold said that would be the total amount lost through 2026 if the bill became law this year.

If the bill is passed, Barthold said health insurers would be able to deduct up to $1 million of an individual executive's salary on their taxes, just like other types of U.S. companies.

But Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas, noted that the $1 million deduction cap only is on salary. Executive compensation that includes "performance pay" can, and routinely does, significantly exceed the amount of a health insurer CEO's salary.

Doggett pointed out that the pay of Aetna's (AET) CEO is more than $17 million, and Cigna's (CI) CEO's tops $13 million. Most, if not all of their pay, could be written off as business expenses if the Republican bill becomes law.

"It could be $100 million, and it would still be possible" to deduct the full CEO compensation?Doggett asked.

Barthold answered, "It would be possible."

Committee member Rep. Brian Higgins, R-NY, said "I don't think this provision is unjustifiable, and I think it's morally reprehensible."

The CEO of UnitedHealth (UNH), Higgins pointed out, alone made $66 million last year.

"We're sitting here talking about giving big insurance companies a tax break on the exorbitant compensation to pay their executives?" Higgins said. "We should repeal this provision and replace it with an admonishment to the insurance companies to get your salaries in line with reality."

Nothing is more important to the GOP than the almighty dollar.

Not improving the quality of life for the average American.

Not the well being of it's Military Veterans.

Nope...a company being able to deduct CEO pay off their corporate taxes, no matter how outrageous, is what matters most to Trump and the GOP.
 
Nothing is more important to the GOP than the almighty dollar.

Not improving the quality of life for the average American.

Not the well being of it's Military Veterans.

Nope...a company being able to deduct CEO pay off their corporate taxes, no matter how outrageous, is what matters most to Trump and the GOP.


Money is power. As long as they have the money, they will have the power.
 
Nothing is more important to the GOP than the almighty dollar.

Not improving the quality of life for the average American.

Not the well being of it's Military Veterans.

Nope...a company being able to deduct CEO pay off their corporate taxes, no matter how outrageous, is what matters most to Trump and the GOP.

It's amazing how many wealthy Democrats there are in this country and yet they don't care about money somehow.
 
seems a simple enough fix to me.....but it isn't clear is it a cap on salaries and performance pay or just a cap on deductability......I see no reason everyone shouldn't pay income taxes on all their income.....
 
It's amazing how many wealthy Democrats there are in this country and yet they don't care about money somehow.

Did I ever claim they don't care about money?

Short answer: NO!

The difference is Democrats don't worship the almighty dollar like Republicans do.

Democrats put their concern for human life ahead of their quest for more money.
 
Did I ever claim they don't care about money?

Short answer: NO!

The difference is Democrats don't worship the almighty dollar like Republicans do.

Democrats put their concern for human life ahead of their quest for more money.

And on what basis do you come to that conclusion?
 
As always liberals show a complete lack of understanding of an issue.

There is not one CEO who has a base salary of $100 million. The expense they are referring to is for base pay and not stock options or deferred compensation. God you people are stupid.
 
As always liberals show a complete lack of understanding of an issue.

There is not one CEO who has a base salary of $100 million. The expense they are referring to is for base pay and not stock options or deferred compensation. God you people are stupid.

You are the stupid fuck who doesn't understand the issue here, you idiot.

Under the Republican proposal, not only are they doubling the amount of ALL executive salaries as "business expenses", but ALL COMPENSATION, including performance or incentive pay, i.e. bonuses, etc.

As the article states, that routinely runs into tens of millions annually, just for one CEO. Multiply that times multiple executives per company times multiple companies, and it's not hard to see what a huge amount of revenue this POS scheme will cost the Treasury.

And it's all for the benefit of people who are the most highly compensated people in the nation even without this new testament to conservative GREED.
 
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And on what basis do you come to that conclusion?

Democrats passed ObamaCare which helped the poor get the healthcare they so desperately needed.

Republicans are now trying to take that away from the poor while simultaneously giving gigantic tax breaks to insurance companies.
 
You are the stupid fuck who doesn't understand the issue here, you idiot.

Under the Republican proposal, not only are they doubling the amount of ANY and ALL executive salaries as "business expenses", but ALL COMPENSATION, including performance or incentive pay, i.e. bonuses, etc.

As the article states, that routinely runs into tens of millions annually, just for one CEO. Multiply that times multiple executives per company times multiple companies, and it's not hard to see what a huge a king of revenue this POS scheme will cost the Treasury.

And it's all for the benefit of people who are the most highly compensated people in the nation even without this new testament to conservative GREED.

Conservatives think they can be as rich as their masters as long as they spew their venom.
 
You are the stupid fuck who doesn't understand the issue here, you idiot.

Under the Republican proposal, not only are they doubling the amount of ANY and ALL executive salaries as "business expenses", but ALL COMPENSATION, including performance or incentive pay, i.e. bonuses, etc.

As the article states, that routinely runs into tens of millions annually, just for one CEO. Multiply that times multiple executives per company times multiple companies, and it's not hard to see what a huge a king of revenue this POS scheme will cost the Treasury.

And it's all for the benefit of people who are the most highly compensated people in the nation even without this new testament to conservative GREED.

But to selfish prick like IHA, who values the almighty dollar more than he does human life, it's a perfectly acceptable thing for the GOP to do.
 
Democrats passed ObamaCare which helped the poor get the healthcare they so desperately needed.

Republicans are now trying to take that away from the poor while simultaneously giving gigantic tax breaks to insurance companies.

I have to wonder what those folks in the rust belt etc are going to say when many of them & their kin lose care or have to pay more for less.....

WTF were they thinking....:whoa:
 
I have to wonder what those folks in the rust belt etc are going to say when many of them & their kin lose care or have to pay more for less.....

WTF were they thinking....:whoa:

Probably the same thing Democrats said when Obamacare failed them. Nothing. The person they voted for is in office.
 
Probably the same thing Democrats said when Obamacare failed them. Nothing. The person they voted for is in office.

When Obama & pelosi took single payer/universal off the table many were pissed & vocal from what I recall.

But they will roll w/ it, they have no choice......
 
Without the mandate and with tax breaks for the wealthy the weight of funding Trumpcare will fall squarely on the shoulders of the same demographic that voted for Trump...

Oh what sweet, sweet karma...
 
Democrats passed ObamaCare which helped some of he poor get the healthcare they so desperately needed and caused many middle income people become poor and lose their insurance so they could be helped to get the healthcare they used to have and now so desperately needed

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