40 hour minimum wage job not enough for 2 bedroom apartment

[Billy the Great Khan]

A roommate to share a single bedroom? Our subject is renting a ROOM.

I'm sorry, I misread your statement. I apologize.

 

[CanceledB]

It's a good start, and depending on the class, yes. Most colleges teach directly from the book. That's available at the library. Even useful in my line of work, which is very hands on.

And it's free - the classes?

 

[Phantasmal]

It's a good start, and depending on the class, yes. Most colleges teach directly from the book. That's available at the library. Even useful in my line of work, which is very hands on.

Billy, you are very fortunate to have the brains to self educate, unfortunately, there are people who can't read or do simple math. It is not because they don't try, it is because they can't.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I am sorry, I don't understand your question as it applies to my post, who increases the cost of food and shelter?

if congress makes laws to guarantee a living wage, that money comes from the employer, who then makes it up by increasing the costs of his products/services. same for a property owner.

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

Typical rightwing reaction to poverty and want....

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

And it's free - the classes?

Depends on the class. Some are over priced, but classes at a local CC are usually just as good in practice, and those are affordable. That's what grants, and what not are for. For people to develop a education and useful skillset. But that's not the only way to learn. Most stuff I learned is/was self taught.

 

[CanceledB]

Billy, you are very fortunate to have the brains to self educate, unfortunately, there are people who can't read or do simple math. It is not because they don't try, it is because they can't.

Thank you for bringing this up. The reality on the ground is that there are many people of average intelligence and limited potential. They don't deserve to be punished for it.

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

Conservative's justification for callous indifference to the plight of others: "I got mine"?

 

[Phantasmal]

if congress makes laws to guarantee a living wage, that money comes from the employer, who then makes it up by increasing the costs of his products/services. same for a property owner.

What profit margin are we talking about for the employer?

 

[Phantasmal]

Thank you for bringing this up. The reality on the ground is that there are many people of average intelligence and limited potential. They don't deserve to be punished for it.

Amen, but that is what our greedy society tends to do.

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

Employers are "job creators", you know. They're doing a swell job, aren't they?

 

[CanceledB]

Depends on the class. Some are over priced, but classes at a local CC are usually just as good in practice, and those are affordable. That's what grants, and what not are for. For people to develop a education and useful skillset. But that's not the only way to learn. Most stuff I learned is/was self taught.

Community College classes in Southern California are out of the price range for minimum wage earners. There aren't enough grants for everyone who needs them. Further, the CC system here is overburdened due to the exorbitant pricing at universities so it is next to impossible for first-timers to even get in the door.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Thank you for bringing this up. The reality on the ground is that there are many people of average intelligence and limited potential. They don't deserve to be punished for it.

Limited potential? I'm sorry, but I don't buy into that one bit. What, pray tell, 'limits' someones potential other than themselves?

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Community College classes in Southern California are out of the price range for minimum wage earners. There aren't enough grants for everyone who needs them. Further, the CC system here is overburdened due to the exorbitant pricing at universities so it is next to impossible for first-timers to even get in the door.

I have no experience with Cali, so I cannot comment.

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

Conservatives claim there are no barriers in society to prevent upward mobilty.

 

[CanceledB]

Amen, but that is what our greedy society tends to do.

The number of college-educated unemployed is now greater than the number of uneducated people without a job. So much for 'increased knowledge and skillset' as a means to ward off poverty.

 

[CanceledB]

I have no experience with Cali, so I cannot comment.

I appreciate the back-and-forth with you, though. I chose Southern California as my example because those numbers are easy to pull up since I live here.

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

So the only reason people are poor is because they chose to be?

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

The number of college-educated unemployed is now greater than the number of uneducated people without a job. So much for 'increased knowledge and skillset' as a means to ward off poverty.

A college education does not equate to an increased skillset. If there are a metric fuck ton of 'graphic artists' unemployed, it's because there was not a sufficient demand for that area of expertise.

Which is more likely to get me a job in Detroit (I already have a job but this is just hypothetical)? My associates in manufacturing technology engineering, or a associates in art?

 

[CanceledB]

Limited potential? I'm sorry, but I don't buy into that one bit. What, pray tell, 'limits' someones potential other than themselves?

Many socio-economic factors - growing up in poverty; growing up in a dysfunctional environment where initiative, self-esteem-building activities, etc., were never cultivated; low IQ; to name a couple.