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what does general welfare mean?
40 hour minimum wage job not enough for 2 bedroom apartment
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what does general welfare mean?
Of course not. It doesn't say 'provide'. It says 'promote'. The government has the power to 'promote the general welfare' by ensuring that basic needs such as food and shelter are affordable and livable.
It was a joke...
It means the collective welfare (health, well-being) of society as a whole.
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exactly what does it mean? does that mean everyone should have a 55 inch tv? does that mean that no person shall be without a job or a home?
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my bad, thought you were serious, it was a good point btw....
No, it means the bare necessities of life.
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The concern of the government for the health, peace, morality, and safety of its citizens.
The concern of the government for the health, peace, morality, and safety of its citizens.
Quit trying to filibuster the discussion. It's about BASIC living needs.
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isn't that providing food and shelter? i didn't see the post until i posted the other one....so i presume you believe the clause means - the government owes each and every person food and shelter......
that is a radical view. and does not comport at all with any founding father's view.
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quit crying you fucking baby. if you can't handle a few questions concerning the topic, then go play somewhere else.
He fucking knows that; he's doing his typical masturbatory discussion demolition.
I know. We need more constitutionally literate people in there rather than partisan hacks. Unfortunately, one of the requirements most Presidents seek is political hackery.
The Federal government was granted powers to provide a General Welfare for the States... basically it was given powers to make Treaties, etc. that would provide an environment for the individual states to thrive, and to provide necessary defense. General Welfare has been interpreted to mean all sorts of things, but it is rather straight forward in the actual document.
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Some, who have not denied the necessity of the power of taxation, have grounded a very fierce attack against the Constitution, on the language in which it is defined. It has been urged and echoed, that the power "to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States," amounts to an unlimited commission to exercise every power which may be alleged to be necessary for the common defense or general welfare. No stronger proof could be given of the distress under which these writers labor for objections, than their stooping to such a misconstruction.
Had no other enumeration or definition of the powers of the Congress been found in the Constitution, than the general expressions just cited, the authors of the objection might have had some color for it; though it would have been difficult to find a reason for so awkward a form of describing an authority to legislate in all possible cases. A power to destroy the freedom of the press, the trial by jury, or even to regulate the course of descents, or the forms of conveyances, must be very singularly expressed by the terms "to raise money for the general welfare."
Had no other enumeration or definition of the powers of the Congress been found in the Constitution, than the general expressions just cited, the authors of the objection might have had some color for it; though it would have been difficult to find a reason for so awkward a form of describing an authority to legislate in all possible cases. A power to destroy the freedom of the press, the trial by jury, or even to regulate the course of descents, or the forms of conveyances, must be very singularly expressed by the terms "to raise money for the general welfare."
The preamble to the Constitution states:
"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
Now where do you get it is limited to treaties?
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not at all true you fucking crybaby. i don't know that and i don't believe it. what is wrong with asking people what they think the statement means? i have no idea how the other person views the statement without asking.
good lord, you are a whiny tool.
Again, the Preamble is the reason we are creating the constitution it is not a list of any of the powers. The powers are listed, and are specific. Article I describes the powers of the Congress, Article II the powers of the Executive, Article III the powers of the Judicial respectively.
Well, you didn't include the collection of taxes