4 Foreign Policy Establishment Myths About Leaving Syria, Debunked

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Since President Donald Trump’s directive to withdraw U.S. ground forces from Syria, the foreign policy elite keep levying complaints. While the people opposing Trump’s Syria decision may be loud, that doesn’t make them right.

Republican Sen. Marco Rubio called the decision “a mistake,” while Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham used increasingly creative language to get the president’s attention by relentlessly tweeting about how “ecstatic” the Iranians must be.
Indeed, with every passing hour, establishment politicians and conventional foreign policy thinkers are deploying increasingly desperate arguments to make their case about why American boots still need to be on the ground in Syria.

Curiously, they never seem to have a realistic end-game in mind. Let’s dispel some of the myths they are propagating.

1. U.S. Credibility Will Be Eroded


The American people are often told that the United States is only as effective around the world as it is credible. Yet credibility is a subjective term, a politically appealing instrument interventionists invoke when they have no better argument to make. As my colleague Benjamin Friedman wrote back in 2014,
“A good rule of thumb for foreign policy is that if someone tells you our credibility depends [on] doing something, it’s probably a bad idea.”
This rule applies in the case of Syria.
Washington’s fixation on maintaining supposed credibility can easily lead to terrible foreign policy decisions of dubious import.
History is full of examples when presidents, lawmakers, and national security hawks continued or escalated U.S. military involvement in an overseas conflict — Vietnam and Iraq being the two prominent case studies over the last 50 years. The result has almost always been bad for U.S. security, blinding us to the far more important discussion of whether intervention is actually worth the risk.

2. Iran and Russia Will Win

Democratic Sen. Robert Menendez stated in a press conference:
“To withdraw without success is failure. … If we leave, Russia and Iran dictate our strategic interests.” In other words: If the United States leaves, the mullahs and Vladimir Putin will swallow Syria whole.

What Menendez and many of his colleagues conveniently don’t mention is the context.
For one, Syria’s political future has always been vastly more vital for Iran and Russia’s foreign policy interests than it has for the United States.
Under no circumstances would Tehran and Moscow be open to Bashar al-Assad’s resignation; Assad may be a bloodthirsty, sinister, and incompetent dictator, but he was a useful proxy to both countries.

To the Iranians, Assad provided a strategic relationship in an otherwise indelibly hostile Arab world — a man who was willing to take cues from Tehran because his security often depended on doing so. For the Russians, Assad resembled a secular authoritarian who allowed the Russian navy to dock at Tartus, the only warm-water port Moscow had.
Both Iran and Russia invested heavily in Syria’s civil war over the past seven years precisely because a post-Assad Syria would be a fundamental blow to both.

To the United States, however, Syria’s strategic position never really mattered.

Washington does not require a cooperative Syria in order to fulfill its national security goals in the Middle East, including the establishment of a functional balance of power and defense of Americans from terrorist attacks.
The bottom line is that the United States is well positioned regardless of whether Assad is in the presidential palace.

3. The Kurds Will Be Abandoned

While it’s understandable that Syrian Kurdish fighters are angry about the coming U.S. troop withdrawal — viewing any decrease as a betrayal after years of coordination in the field —
the fact is that U.S.-Kurdish ties were never more than a tactical arrangement.
The Syrian Kurds saw Washington’s airpower as a highly valuable asset to save their communities from further ISIS encroachment, and Washington views the Syrian Kurds as useful local forces to squeeze the organization’s territorial “caliphate.”

With ISIS vanquished from 99 percent of its former territory, the United States doesn’t have as much use for the relationship as it did four years ago.
When the United States began military operations against ISIS, it never agreed to protect the Kurds in northeastern Syria in perpetuity. Nor did U.S. officials agree to support Kurds’ wider aspirations for autonomy. Calling a troop drawdown a betrayal suggests that Washington signed up to be Kurdish protectors for the indefinite future.

4. ISIS Will Regroup and Attack the U.S.

For the past 17 years of the war on terrorism, proponents of the status quo have claimed that the United States must fight terrorists “over there” so we don’t have to fight them “over here.” This is one of
Graham’s favorite boilerplate lines, designed to muddy logic and foresight about the terrorism problem through fear-mongering and emotional pleas.

The notion that ISIS will experience an automatic resurgence after U.S. troops depart assumes that the other players in Syria’s conflict don’t have an interest in fighting the group. The reality couldn’t be further from the truth.
While the war in Syria can be enormously complicated to monitor from the outside, every player on the ground views ISIS as an enemy.
Indeed, if there is one similarity that Assad, anti-Assad opposition fighters, Turkey, the Kurds, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, pro-Assad Shia militias, and Russia have in common, it is ensuring ISIS does not regenerate to 2014 levels.

One can make a similar point with respect to Afghanistan. All of Afghanistan’s neighbors are invested in killing ISIS and al-Qaida terrorists, with or without 14,000 U.S. soldiers stationed on Afghan soil. If Trump ordered the U.S. military to significantly downsize in Afghanistan today — a real possibility, according to The Wall Street Journal — it’s highly likely the region would pick up the slack.
In fact, with the United States no longer serving as a security guarantor, the region would have more incentive to get involved.

Over the next days and weeks, the American people will read columns and watch segments on television calling Trump’s Syria policy a sign of weakness and a dangerous mistake. They would be wise not to buy into it.

Syria was becoming a distraction to the Trump administration’s great-power strategy.
By getting out of Syria, the United States nips further mission creep in the bud and refocuses the national security bureaucracy on the priorities that most significantly affect America’s security and economic prosperity.
Daniel DePetris is a fellow at Defense Priorities.
 
The Federalist? LOLOL..
do you disagree? I think they are valid points about a "presence", "Iran and Russia winning" etc.

and this beauty at the end

Syria was becoming a distraction to the Trump administration’s great-power strategy.
By getting out of Syria, the United States nips further mission creep in the bud and refocuses the national security bureaucracy on the priorities that most significantly affect America’s security and economic prosperity.
 
do you disagree? I think they are valid points about a "presence", "Iran and Russia winning" etc.

and this beauty at the end

The fake Saudi princess has no rebuttal, so she attacks the source without addressing the points factually. I doubt she even read what you posted.

She's a convicted fraudster with a history of mental illness, so what can you expect?

It's a well-documented and rational assessment. Thanks for posting it.
 
do you disagree? I think they are valid points about a "presence", "Iran and Russia winning" etc.

and this beauty at the end

Iran is very happy and now Lebanon is at risk.

Big ISIS suicide bombing in Iraq yesterday.
 
Iran is very happy and now Lebanon is at risk.

Big ISIS suicide bombing in Iraq yesterday.
sure I agree. Iran has moved not just Qods forces
(Soleimani ) but IRGC as well.

But what are we supposed to do about it?
 
For all the posturing of the neoconservatives both left and right the fundamental question is whether any 2020 candidate will really challenge Trump on Syria and argue for keeping a troop presence there indefinitely

I doubt it
 
sure I agree. Iran has moved not just Qods forces
(Soleimani ) but IRGC as well.

But what are we supposed to do about it?

Good question..

Our allies know we have no spine and Trump is all hot air. Trump has effectively abandoned the Palestinians and the Saudis and expects KSA to rebuild Syria.. He hasn't negotiated anything. 6 million Syrian refugees still can't go home. .. and Iran is closer to getting its Shia corridor all the way to Sidon.
 
Good question..
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Our allies know we have no spine and Trump is all hot air. Trump has effectively abandoned the Palestinians and the Saudis and expects KSA to rebuild Syria.. He hasn't negotiated anything. 6 million Syrian refugees still can't go home. .. and Iran is closer to getting its Shia corridor all the way to Sidon.
Trump has NOT abandoned the saudis!
in fact Trump is the One Sane Voice - that killing Kashogi (sp?) doesn't mean we abandon KSA "realtionship"

some real idiots (the same that call for excessive Russian sanctions) would have us withdrawl from arms sales and security agreements.

'everybody' cuts loose on the Palestinians.. they are pawns for all the players

Trump/USA cannot influence Syria,nor shoule we. we are only there to kill terrorists
 
Good question..

Our allies know we have no spine and Trump is all hot air. Trump has effectively abandoned the Palestinians and the Saudis and expects KSA to rebuild Syria.. He hasn't negotiated anything. 6 million Syrian refugees still can't go home. .. and Iran is closer to getting its Shia corridor all the way to Sidon.

What do you think we should do to stop it

Should the democrat party candidate run on keeping American troops in Syria indefinitely?
 
Trump has NOT abandoned the saudis!
in fact Trump is the One Sane Voice - that killing Kashogi (sp?) doesn't mean we abandon KSA "realtionship"

some real idiots (the same that call for excessive Russian sanctions) would have us withdrawl from arms sales and security agreements.

'everybody' cuts loose on the Palestinians.. they are pawns for all the players

Trump/USA cannot influence Syria,nor should we. we are only there to kill terrorists


KSA has NEVER cut loose on the Palestinians... Trump has further destabilized the whole region including putting Iraq at risk.

Assad's deal was genocide to rid the country of Syrian Sunnis and he has largely succeeded.. Remember the Kurds are also Sunni.
 
Trump should be talking to Putin about a new constitution for Syria and transitioning Assad out of power.

I thought Trump talking to Putin is supposed to be "treason", fraudster.

'Nothing short of treason': the Trump-Putin summit

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/18/readers-panel-us-voters-react-to-trumps-conference-with-putin

Poor, crazy krudzu.
 
One of the fundamental jobs of government is to it defend us from those that attack us. trump pulling our troops from Syria doesn't do that.
 
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