4 Dead In Capitol Attack, Same as Benghazi. How Many GOP Hearings?

OMG!!! You are actually defending terrorism against the USA. So tell me, could Bin Laden have paid a few million dollars for 9/11 "responsibility" and also become a hero to you?
no you FUCKING DIMWIT!!!

I am not "defending" anything. your brain is stuck and unable to understand Qaddafi was a member in good standing
at the UN and a recognized leader of Libya

do you even understand this significance in terms of the NATO war in 2011??
How far do i need to break it down for you?

and BTW the entire war was based on lies -any problem with the US doing regime change based on lies???? :palm:
 
some of us can compartmentalize - necessary for logical analysis.

your emotions from long ago are fogging your ability to focus on topic

I guess you can "compartmentalize" and support an anti-American terrorist. I can understand working with him, but supporting him seems a bit far.
 
I guess you can "compartmentalize" and support an anti-American terrorist. I can understand working with him, but supporting him seems a bit far.
gawd almighty.
You are incapable of basic reading. I do not, and never have "supported" Qaddafi.
the point is moot.

whether I do or not has nothing to do for the war on Libya based on lies that turned the entire Maghreb in to a terrorism infected zone by the aftermath.

did you know ISIS sheltered in Libya during the Syrian war?
do you have any clue how we are responsible for that??
 
ISIL will bounce back if Libya civil war doesn’t end, study warns
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...ack-if-libya-civil-war-doesnt-end-study-warns
The country has since split between the internationally recognised Government of National Accord (GNA) in the west and renegade military commander Khalifa Haftar’s self-styled Libyan National Army (LNA) in the east.

Each faction is backed by militias and foreign governments. While the GNA is supported by Turkey, the LNA is backed by Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Russia.

In April last year, Haftar launched an offensive to seize the Libyan capital, Tripoli, from the GNA. But the 14-month campaign collapsed in June this year when the GNA gained the upper hand, driving his forces from the outskirts of Tripoli and other western towns.

After a months-long campaign by GNA forces, ISIL was expelled in May 2016 from the coastal city of Sirte, the biggest territory controlled by the armed group outside its then heartland in Syria and Iraq.

According to the study, after ISIL’s removal from Sirte, most of its activity moved to Fezzan in the southern Libyan desert, “where the group has increasingly embedded themselves in the local human and illicit goods trafficking, particularly along the refugee migration routes through Libya”.

“ISIS [ISIL] in Libya is overwhelmingly composed of non-Libyan foreign fighters, further diminishing their capacity to embed themselves in the local political landscape,” it said.

However, Ibrahim warned the situation could change if the Libyan civil war is prolonged
, and called on the international community to ensure stability in the country.

“[The] longer the instability persists, the longer we go without a central government that does not need to fight everyone else and can keep a closer eye on what ISIS and other groups like it are doing in the hinterlands, the higher the chance that ISIS [or someone similar] will stage a large-scale resurgence.”
 
ISIL will bounce back if Libya civil war doesn’t end, study warns
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...ack-if-libya-civil-war-doesnt-end-study-warns
The country has since split between the internationally recognised Government of National Accord (GNA) in the west and renegade military commander Khalifa Haftar’s self-styled Libyan National Army (LNA) in the east.

Each faction is backed by militias and foreign governments. While the GNA is supported by Turkey, the LNA is backed by Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Russia.

In April last year, Haftar launched an offensive to seize the Libyan capital, Tripoli, from the GNA. But the 14-month campaign collapsed in June this year when the GNA gained the upper hand, driving his forces from the outskirts of Tripoli and other western towns.

After a months-long campaign by GNA forces, ISIL was expelled in May 2016 from the coastal city of Sirte, the biggest territory controlled by the armed group outside its then heartland in Syria and Iraq.

According to the study, after ISIL’s removal from Sirte, most of its activity moved to Fezzan in the southern Libyan desert, “where the group has increasingly embedded themselves in the local human and illicit goods trafficking, particularly along the refugee migration routes through Libya”.

“ISIS [ISIL] in Libya is overwhelmingly composed of non-Libyan foreign fighters, further diminishing their capacity to embed themselves in the local political landscape,” it said.

However, Ibrahim warned the situation could change if the Libyan civil war is prolonged
, and called on the international community to ensure stability in the country.

“[The] longer the instability persists, the longer we go without a central government that does not need to fight everyone else and can keep a closer eye on what ISIS and other groups like it are doing in the hinterlands, the higher the chance that ISIS [or someone similar] will stage a large-scale resurgence.”

one view- here are more reliable other views, the ones i believe, the ones our NATO allies believed, the ones Obama and Hillary believed and they are 50000000 times more intelligent and informed than you, boy-

Security Council Approves 'No-Fly Zone' over Libya ...www.un.org › press › sc10200.doc.htm
Mar 17, 2011 — Security Council Approves 'No-Fly Zone' over Libya, Authorizing 'All ... Demanding an immediate ceasefire in Libya, including an end to the ... which it said might constitute “crimes against humanity”, the Security ... Treaty Organization (NATO) and the Arab League were now ready to act to support the text.


To What Extent Was the NATO Intervention in Libya a ...www.e-ir.info › 2019/02/06 › to-what-extent-was-the-n...
Feb 6, 2019 — Given the evidence of NATO's emphasis on regime change, actions ... its populations from genocide, war crimes, ethnic cleansing and crimes ... an arms embargo, maintaining a no-fly zone and protecting civilians and

International Court Charges Qaddafi With War Crimes - The ...www.nytimes.com › World › Africa
Jun 27, 2011 — PARIS — The International Criminal Court in The Hague issued arrest warrants on Monday for Libya's leader, Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, one of ...

Libya's Qaddafi charged with war crimes: a help or hindrance ...www.csmonitor.com › USA › Foreign-Policy › Libya-s-Q...
Jun 27, 2011 — International Criminal Court on Monday indicted Libya's Qaddafi on charges of crimes against humanity. Human rights groups cheer, but others ...

War crimes prosecutor calls for arrest of Saif Gaddafi, dictator's ...www.reuters.com › article › us-warcrimes-libya › war-c...
Jun 14, 2017 — ... International Criminal Court on Wednesday called for the arrest and surrender of Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, who is wanted on war crimes charges ...

Libya trial: Gaddafi son sentenced to death over war crimes ...www.bbc.com › news › world-africa-33688391
Jul 28, 2015 — Libya trial: Gaddafi son sentenced to death over war crimes ... by the International Criminal Court on charges of war crimes and crimes against ...

Muammar Gaddafi war crimes files revealed - The Guardianwww.theguardian.com › world › jun › muammar-gadd...
Jun 18, 2011 — The order, from Youssef Ahmed Basheer Abu Hajar, states bluntly: "It is absolutely forbidden for supply cars, fuel and other services to enter the ..
 
one view- here are more reliable other views, the ones i believe, the ones our NATO allies believed, the ones Obama and Hillary believed and they are 50000000 times more intelligent and informed than you, boy-
quit spamming nonsense, you ignorant rube - read the fucking UK report and STFU
 
quit spamming nonsense, you ignorant rube - read the fucking UK report and STFU

screw the UK report, asshole. we have a UN report, an international war crimes report, the UN and NATO resolutions THAT CREATED THE NO FLY ZONES TO STOP THIS TERRORIST ASSHOLE FROM COMMITTING MORE WAR CRIMES.

fuck you if you don't like it, punk ass.
 
screw the UK report, asshole. we have a UN report, an international war crimes report, the UN and NATO resolutions THAT CREATED THE NO FLY ZONES TO STOP THIS TERRORIST ASSHOLE FROM COMMITTING MORE WAR CRIMES.

fuck you if you don't like it, punk ass.
you ignant rube. there were no bombings in Bengazi get it -
so "more war crimes" never happened to begin with

what does the UN report say? absolute zilch about the beginning of the war

the UN and NATO resolution were based on Bullshit -which if you had BOTHERED to read
talk about a no fly zone NOT A REGIME CHANGE WAR

Hillary did the dirty deed -read her fucking Email you dumbass Spammer -then STFU
 
From: Mills, Cheryl D [mailto:MiIIsCD@state.gov]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:37 PM

To: H
Subject: FW: tick tock on libya

Here is Draft

From: Jake Sullivan [mailtc
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:40 PM

To: Mills, Cheryl D; Nuland, Victoria
Subject: tick tock on libya

this is basically off the top of my head, with a few consultations of my notes. but it shows S'

leadership/ownership/stewardship of this country's libya policy from start to finish. let me know what you
think. toria, who else might be able to add to this?

HRC has been a critical voice on Libya in administration deliberations, at NATO, and in contact group
meetings — as well as the public face of the U.S. effort in Libya. She was instrumental in securing the
authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.Secretary Clinton's leadership on Libya



February 25 — HRC announces the suspension of operations of the Libyan embassy in Washington.

February 26 — HRC directs efforts to evacuate all U.S. embassy personnel from Tripoli and orders the closing of

the embassy.

February 26 -- HRC made a series of calls to her counterparts to help secure passage of UNSC 1970, which

imposes sanctions on Gaddafi and his family and refers Qadhafi and his cronies to the ICC

February 28 — HRC travels to Geneva, Switzerland for consultations with European partners on Libya. She

gives a major address in which she says: "Colonel Qadhafi and those around him must be held accountable for
these acts, which violate international legal obligations and common decency. Through their actions, they have
lost the legitimacy to govern. And the people of Libya have made themselves clear: It is time for Qadhafi to go

— now, without further violence or delay." She also works to secure the suspension of Libya from membership
in the Human Rights Council.

Early March — HRC appoints Special Envoy Chris Stevens to be the U.S. representative to Benghazi

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05788648 Date: 10/30/2015

March 14 — HRC travels to Paris for the G8 foreign minister's meeting. She meets with TNC representative
Jibril and consults with her colleagues on further UN Security Council action. She notes that a no-fly zone will
not be adequate.

March 14-16 — HRC participates in a series of high-level video- and teleconferences with
She is a leading voice for strong UNSC action and a NATO civilian
protection mission.

March 17 — HRC secures Russian abstention and Portuguese and African support for UNSC 1973, ensuring that

it passes. 1973 authorizes a no-fly zone over Libya and "all necessary measures" - code for military action - to
protect civilians against Gaddafi's army.

March 24 — HRC engages with allies and secures the transition of command and control of the civilian
protection mission to NATO. She announces the transition in a statement.

March 18-30— HRC engages with UAE, Qatar, and Jordan to seek their participation in coalition
operations. Over the course of several days, all three devote aircraft to the mission.

March 19 — HRC travels to Paris to meet with European and Arab leaders to prepare for military action to
protect civilians. That night, the first U.S. air strikes halt the advance of Gaddafi's forces on Benghazi and

target Libya's air defenses:

March 29 — HRC travels to London for a conference on Libya, where she is a driving force behind the creation
of a Contact Group comprising 20-plus countries to coordinate efforts to protect civilians and plan for a post-
Qadhafi Libya. She is instrumental in setting up a rotating chair system to ensure regional buy-in.

April 14 — HRC travels to Berlin for NATO meetings. She is the driving force behind NATO adopting a
communiqué that calls for Qadhafi's departure as a political objective,
and lays out three clear military
objectives: end of attacks and threat of attacks on civilians; the removal of Qadhafi forces from cities they
forcibly entered; and the unfettered provision of humanitarian access.
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23898
 
you ignant rube. there were no bombings in Bengazi get it -
so "more war crimes" never happened to begin with

what does the UN report say? absolute zilch about the beginning of the war

the UN and NATO resolution were based on Bullshit -which if you had BOTHERED to read
talk about a no fly zone NOT A REGIME CHANGE WAR

Hillary did the dirty deed -read her fucking Email you dumbass Spammer -then STFU

you are an idiot, bitch!! good god. you really think the UN and NATO and Obama and Hillary and an International World Court who all agreed this war criminal bitch needed to be controlled were wrong because of one UK report? you are too fucking stupid to even comment...what does any hillary email have to do with the UN and NATO and the International World Court all agreeing with her and Obama's views?
 
you are an idiot, bitch!! good god. you really think the UN and NATO and Obama and Hillary and an International World Court who all agreed this war criminal bitch needed to be controlled were wrong because of one UK report? you are too fucking stupid to even comment...what does any hillary email have to do with the UN and NATO and the International World Court all agreeing with her and Obama's views?
stupid rube
I EVEN PUBLISHED HER WIKI LEAK
UN Resolution called for a No Fly zone -NOT A WAR AGAINST QADDAFI -do you understand this basic difference?

so how did NATO get in the business of bombing Qaddafi forces? IT"S RIGHT IN HER EMAIL
April 14 — HRC travels to Berlin for NATO meetings. She is the driving force behind NATO adopting a
communiqué that calls for Qadhafi's departure as a political objective, and lays out three clear military
objectives: end of attacks and threat of attacks on civilians; the removal of Qadhafi forces from cities they
forcibly entered;
 
stupid rube
I EVEN PUBLISHED HER WIKI LEAK
UN Resolution called for a No Fly zone -NOT A WAR AGAINST QADDAFI -do you understand this basic difference?

so how did NATO get in the business of bombing Qaddafi forces? IT"S RIGHT IN HER EMAIL

so now hillary as secretary of state tells NATO and the UN and the International World Court how to RESPOND TO QADDAFI BUTCHERING HIS OWN CITIZENS? if so, i am cool with that. fuck qaddafi.
 
so now hillary as secretary of state tells NATO and the UN and the International World Court how to RESPOND TO QADDAFI BUTCHERING HIS OWN CITIZENS? if so, i am cool with that. fuck qaddafi.
HA HA HA
there was no "butchering" dimwit -you cling to that stupidy.

There was a war that Qaddafi was fighting against the NTC -these were not civilians -they were revolutionaries
backed by heavily AQ . They sure wern't the "civilian protestors"either that UN Resolution was supposed to protect

THE ENTIRE WAR WAS BASED ON THAT LIE -compounded by Hillary's incremental meddling
that finally had Qaddafi himself listed as a military target

rebel-fighters-drive-to-the-front-linegaddafi-ntc-C6XPHY.jpg


stock photo of NTC fighters in modifiedd pick up truck
 
HA HA HA
there was no "butchering" dimwit -you cling to that stupidy.

There was a war that Qaddafi was fighting against the NTC -these were not civilians -they were revolutionaries
backed by heavily AQ . They sure wern't the "civilian protestors"either that UN Resolution was supposed to protect

THE ENTIRE WAR WAS BASED ON THAT LIE -compounded by Hillary's incremental meddling
that finally had Qaddafi himself listed as a military target

rebel-fighters-drive-to-the-front-linegaddafi-ntc-C6XPHY.jpg


stock photo of NTC fighters in modifiedd pick up truck

yeah, there were war crimes and butchering ordered by qaddafi and his son, stupid bitch. good god. read the fucking sources, bitch.
 
Obama -called Libya his "biggest mistake"
Susan Rice- lied about Qaddafi troops using "viagra rape"as an instrument of war
HRC- escalated the No Fly Zone into an all out NATO war against Qaddafi
Blinken (new Sec of State) -was Bidens advisor for Iraq and Libya
Biden went along for the ride, and now lies he opposed Libya

MAY THEY ALL ROT IN HELL for plunging Libya high standard of living into the current hell it still is

"we came we saw he died" - HRC
 
Obama -called Libya his "biggest mistake"
Susan Rice- lied about Qaddafi troops using "viagra rape"as an instrument of war
HRC- escalated the No Fly Zone into an all out NATO war against Qaddafi
Blinken (new Sec of State) -was Bidens advisor for Iraq and Libya
Biden went along for the ride, and now lies he opposed Libya

MAY THEY ALL ROT IN HELL for plunging Libya high standard of living into the current hell it still is

"we came we saw he died" - HRC

so now qaddafi was like george washington, you idiotic bitch. and libya had a high standard of living. YOU ARE FUCKING CRAZY.

give some sources for your qaddafi loving bullshit, boy. i guess you love you some hitler, too.
 
now some facts to go along with your bullshit-

Thousands of documents that reveal in chilling detail orders from Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's senior generals to bombard and starve the people of Misrata have been gathered by war crimes investigators and are being kept at a secret location at the besieged Libyan port.

The documents, some of which the Observer has seen, will form damning evidence in any future war crimes trial of the Libyan leader at the International Criminal Court. The court's prosecutors are expected to travel to the city to view the documents once the daily bombardments have ceased.

One document shows the commanding general of government forces instructing his units to starve Misrata's population during the four-month siege. The order, from Youssef Ahmed Basheer Abu Hajar, states bluntly: "It is absolutely forbidden for supply cars, fuel and other services to enter the city of Misrata from all gates and checkpoints." Another document instructs army units to hunt down wounded rebel fighters, in direct violation of the Geneva Conventions.

They represent a landmark in international justice because no significant war crimes trial in the short history of international courts has had access to documents directly implicating the lead players in the commission of war crimes.

"From what we have here, the case is already proved," Khalid Alwafi, a Misrata war crimes investigator, told the Observer. "All the evidence is here. Signed and stamped." The documents have yet to be revealed to the ICC, according to the 60-strong team of Libyan lawyers who brave daily shelling to collect evidence from the city. "We are ready to show them to the ICC," said Alwafi. "They are free to contact us."

Gaddafi continues to show defiance to Nato, greeting another night of heavy bombing of Tripoli by broadcasting a furious message through the capital's public address system.

"Nato will be defeated," he yelled in a hoarse voice that was piped across the city. Within minutes, the emotive tones of the speech were mixed with the sound of automatic gunfire and car horns from supporters across the city.

In a sign of the growing desperation felt by Libya's opposition, Ali Tarhouni, the rebel finance minister, said that they had almost run out of cash.

International loans have failed to materialise and continued fighting has made it impossible to repair damaged oil installations that halted production in April. "We don't have any [cash]. We are running out of everything," he told the Reuters news agency. "It's a complete failure. Either they [Western nations] don't understand or they don't care."

Nato has yet to find an answer to the Libyan dictator's defiance, with missiles continuing to fall on Misrata. "It is unfortunately still the case that pro-Gaddafi forces continue to show shocking determination to harm the Libyan people," said Oana Lungescu, a Nato spokeswoman.

"It is hard to imagine the end to attacks on civilians while the pro-Gaddafi regime is still in power."

Residents of Misrata hoped for just such an ending last week, when Nato leafleted government lines around the city with lurid pictures of Apache helicopters and warning of dire retribution if the bombardment continued.

Since then, the bombardment has only intensified. On the streets of the shell-shattered city, journalists are now asked at regular intervals by the frightened populace: "Where is Nato?"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jun/18/muammar-gaddafi-war-crimes-files
 
so now qaddafi was like george washington, you idiotic bitch. and libya had a high standard of living. YOU ARE FUCKING CRAZY.

give some sources for your qaddafi loving bullshit, boy. i guess you love you some hitler, too.
I have no "feelings" for Qaddafi -feelings/love are for 14 year old girls. but as usual I have to spoon fed you the obvious

Ten Reasons Libya Under Gaddafi Was a Great Place to Live
https://www.africanexponent.com/post/ten-reasons-libya-under-gaddafi-was-a-great-place-to-live-2746

Education and medical treatment were free

Newlyweds received U.S $50,000 from the government

Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project
The Gaddafi regime embarked on one of modern man’s edifices of development: the Great Man-Made River Project to make water available to the whole country.

Libya was a well-endowed state.

Having a home was considered a human right

Gender equality actually a reality
Women in Libya were free to work and dress as they liked, subject to family constraints. The “dictator” did not impose any particular repressive canon on women and considering the sensitivities of the Arab community to gender roles, this was a big feat. Universal access to primary education was achieved in a relatively short space of time under Gaddafi.

The Human Development Index was better than two-thirds of the countries reported on

People had enough food

Privatization of all Libyan oil to every citizen
 
I have no "feelings" for Qaddafi -feelings/love are for 14 year old girls. but as usual I have to spoon fed you the obvious

Ten Reasons Libya Under Gaddafi Was a Great Place to Live
https://www.africanexponent.com/post/ten-reasons-libya-under-gaddafi-was-a-great-place-to-live-2746

Education and medical treatment were free

Newlyweds received U.S $50,000 from the government

Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project
The Gaddafi regime embarked on one of modern man’s edifices of development: the Great Man-Made River Project to make water available to the whole country.

Libya was a well-endowed state.

Having a home was considered a human right

Gender equality actually a reality
Women in Libya were free to work and dress as they liked, subject to family constraints. The “dictator” did not impose any particular repressive canon on women and considering the sensitivities of the Arab community to gender roles, this was a big feat. Universal access to primary education was achieved in a relatively short space of time under Gaddafi.

The Human Development Index was better than two-thirds of the countries reported on

People had enough food

Privatization of all Libyan oil to every citizen

if you were loyal to qaddafi, and not being bombed, it might not have been so bad. BUT WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS QADDAFI LOVING SHIT HAVE TO DO WITH THE BENGHAZI HEARINGS WHERE THE REPUBS LIED ABOUT STAND DOWN ORDERS AND ALL THE REST?
 
now some facts to go along with your bullshit-

Thousands of documents that reveal in chilling detail orders from Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's senior generals to bombard and starve the people of Misrata
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
NATO BOMBED MISRATA! - you really wanna talk "war crimes"?

NATO warships bomb Misrata and Zlitan:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...srata-and-zlitan-report-idUSTRE74853Z20110509
NATO warships bombed “military and civilian targets” in the rebel-held city of Misrata in western Libya and the adjacent town of Zlitan
 
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