4 Dead In Capitol Attack, Same as Benghazi. How Many GOP Hearings?

Qaddafi was not planning to massacre civilians. This myth was exaggerated by rebels and Western governments, which based their intervention on little intelligence.
The threat of Islamist extremists, which had a large influence in the uprising, was ignored — and the NATO bombing made this threat even worse, giving ISIS a base in North Africa.
France, which initiated the military intervention, was motivated by economic and political interests, not humanitarian ones.
The uprising — which was violent, not peaceful — would likely not have been successful were it not for foreign military intervention and aid. Foreign media outlets, particularly Qatar's Al Jazeera and Saudi Arabia's Al Arabiya, also spread unsubstantiated rumors about Qaddafi and the Libyan government.
The NATO bombing plunged Libya into a humanitarian disaster, killing thousands of people and displacing hundreds of thousands more, transforming Libya from the African country with the highest standard of living into a war-torn failed state.

Myth that Qaddafi would massacre civilians and the lack of intel

"Despite his rhetoric, the proposition that Muammar Gaddafi would have ordered the massacre of civilians in Benghazi was not supported by the available evidence," the Foreign Affairs Committee states clearly.
 
LV426 said:
Yes, we are all well aware of the Conservative alliance with and love for Khaddafi, that goes back to Rice hanging out with him during Bush the Dumber.
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"you break it you own it" -said of Iraq is the same as Libya -except we didnt
we walked away and left no government and a divided county that also became ISIS by the sea for Syrian ISIS members
 
CFM said:
What does what happened yesterday have to do with Benghazi?

You would think if you n-lovers thought what happened was bad you'd address the niggers you love doing things like that when they did it.
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Damo warned another poster about his use of racial slurs. This applies to you as well. Continue to use them and there will be consequences
 
Moamar Gaddafi has been dead eight years yet Libya is still at war with itself. What went wrong?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-20/libya-civil-war-gaddafi-eight-years-on/11210742
While international partners failed to have a post intervention strategy, local leaders failed to create a "vision" for the future in terms of new economic and political systems, as well as the management of a reconciliation and justice process after eight months of bloody conflict and 42 years of dictatorship, Mr Eljarh said.

A second key issue which still plagues Libya today, was the empowerment of militia groups.

During the uprisings, rebel fighters had operated with near-total impunity as new leaders turned a blind eye to torture, looting and the execution of prisoners.

In the year that followed Gaddafi's death, those who fought on the side of the former Libyan leader were put on trial and in many cases charged with murder, even if they'd only killed in battle.

Meanwhile, those guilty of war crimes from the winning side walked free, even receiving positions of power in some cases.
 
dukkha said:
"you break it you own it" -said of Iraq is the same as Libya -except we didnt
we walked away and left no government and a divided county that also became ISIS by the sea for Syrian ISIS members
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No...WE didn't do that. YOU did that. YOU are the ones who plunged us into Iraq. YOU are the ones who demanded we stay there. YOU are the ones who had no plan for withdrawal.

You're all backwards on this.
 
LV426 said:
No...WE didn't do that. YOU did that. YOU are the ones who plunged us into Iraq. YOU are the ones who demanded we stay there. YOU are the ones who had no plan for withdrawal.

You're all backwards on this.
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oh come on. I was vehemently against going into Iraq -
but Democrats and Republicans were united with "yellow ribbons and such"

your brain short circuits due to gross partisanship

Hillary and Biden never learned from backing Iraq either - Blinken as Sec of Stae is an interventionist
 
dukkha said:
U.K. Parliament report details how NATO's 2011 war in Libya was based on lies
British investigation: Gaddafi was not going to massacre civilians; Western bombing made Islamist extremism worse
https://www.salon.com/2016/09/16/u-...ow-natos-2011-war-in-libya-was-based-on-lies/
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that is certainly one point of view....here are 5 that do not agree-

International Court Charges Qaddafi With War Crimes - The ...www.nytimes.com › World › Africa
Jun 27, 2011 — PARIS — The International Criminal Court in The Hague issued arrest warrants on Monday for Libya's leader, Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, one of ...

Libya's Qaddafi charged with war crimes: a help or hindrance ...www.csmonitor.com › USA › Foreign-Policy › Libya-s-Q...
Jun 27, 2011 — International Criminal Court on Monday indicted Libya's Qaddafi on charges of crimes against humanity. Human rights groups cheer, but others ...

War crimes prosecutor calls for arrest of Saif Gaddafi, dictator's ...www.reuters.com › article › us-warcrimes-libya › war-c...
Jun 14, 2017 — ... International Criminal Court on Wednesday called for the arrest and surrender of Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, who is wanted on war crimes charges ...

Libya trial: Gaddafi son sentenced to death over war crimes ...www.bbc.com › news › world-africa-33688391
Jul 28, 2015 — Libya trial: Gaddafi son sentenced to death over war crimes ... by the International Criminal Court on charges of war crimes and crimes against ...

Muammar Gaddafi war crimes files revealed - The Guardianwww.theguardian.com › world › jun › muammar-gadd...
Jun 18, 2011 — The order, from Youssef Ahmed Basheer Abu Hajar, states bluntly: "It is absolutely forbidden for supply cars, fuel and other services to enter the ..
 
LV426 said:
No...WE didn't do that. YOU did that. YOU are the ones who plunged us into Iraq. YOU are the ones who demanded we stay there. YOU are the ones who had no plan for withdrawal.

You're all backwards on this.
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pls dont get him started on this.lol
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
that is certainly one point of view....here are 5 that do not agree-

International Court Charges Qaddafi With War Crimes - The ...www.nytimes.com › World › Africa
Jun 27, 2011 — PARIS — The International Criminal Court in The Hague issued arrest warrants on Monday for Libya's leader, Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, one of ...

Libya's Qaddafi charged with war crimes: a help or hindrance ...www.csmonitor.com › USA › Foreign-Policy › Libya-s-Q...
Jun 27, 2011 — International Criminal Court on Monday indicted Libya's Qaddafi on charges of crimes against humanity. Human rights groups cheer, but others ...

War crimes prosecutor calls for arrest of Saif Gaddafi, dictator's ...www.reuters.com › article › us-warcrimes-libya › war-c...
Jun 14, 2017 — ... International Criminal Court on Wednesday called for the arrest and surrender of Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, who is wanted on war crimes charges ...

Libya trial: Gaddafi son sentenced to death over war crimes ...www.bbc.com › news › world-africa-33688391
Jul 28, 2015 — Libya trial: Gaddafi son sentenced to death over war crimes ... by the International Criminal Court on charges of war crimes and crimes against ...

Muammar Gaddafi war crimes files revealed - The Guardianwww.theguardian.com › world › jun › muammar-gadd...
Jun 18, 2011 — The order, from Youssef Ahmed Basheer Abu Hajar, states bluntly: "It is absolutely forbidden for supply cars, fuel and other services to enter the ..
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crap.. pure crap.. I gave you details,and that is a UK report that backs up all my claims you resort to dated google searches..do you even know what happened to Qaddafi's son you goggle here?

educate yourself -read the UK report for starters
 
dukkha said:
oh come on. I was vehemently against going into Iraq -
but Democrats and Republicans were united with "yellow ribbons and such"
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No, no, no...a million of us marched in NYC over this. Almost every single House Democrat voted against it. The only reason that Senate D's voted for it was because YOU ALL PRESENTED CHERRY PICKED INTEL that made it look like Iraq was a threat and/or responsible for 9/11, thus justifying the invasion and occupation.

I remember this shit like it was yesterday. Stop. There wasn't some wild, massive bipartisan consensus. There was only those who supported the war, and those who opposed it. Most of those who opposed it were Democrats, including Barack Obama.


your brain short circuits due to gross partisanship
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You are among the most partisan people on all of JPP because you cannot help yourself from being compelled to bullshit everyone.

Whether that bullshit is your lies about mail-in ballots, to your bullshit about HCQ and COVID. Every single fucking thing you said last year was completely wrong and/or a lie. Every. Single. Fucking. Thing.

Not for nothing, but your consistency of being wrong about everything is the only thing that I know about you.

If dukkha says something, chances are the opposite is the case, or what he said needs to be held to scrutiny because it's not the full truth.


Hillary and Biden never learned from backing Iraq either - Blinken as Sec of Stae is an interventionist
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Biden's not President yet, so we don't actually know what his Administration is going to do.

What we DO KNOW is that the current Administration's pro-Russia policy is because of the favors they owe Russia for helping them get elected in 2016.

Why else would Paul Manafort, while campaign manager for Trump, ask Klimnik to give confidential GOP polling data to Deripaska?
 
dukkha said:
crap.. pure crap.. I gave you details,and that is a UK report that backs up all my claims you resort to dated google searches..do you even know what happened to Qaddafi's son you goggle here?

educate yourself -read the UK report for starters
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from one point of view, like i said. here are 5 reliable sources THAT DO NOT AGREE...what part of that do you not get?
 
dukkha said:
crap.. pure crap.. I gave you details,and that is a UK report that backs up all my claims you resort to dated google searches..do you even know what happened to Qaddafi's son you goggle here?

educate yourself -read the UK report for starters
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So you ignore actual Tribunals because you have a narrative that you need to protect because if that narrative gets picked apart, the entire dukkha tower collapses like a game of Jenga.
 
LV426 said:
No, no, no...a million of us marched in NYC over this. Almost every single House Democrat voted against it. The only reason that Senate D's voted for it was because YOU ALL PRESENTED CHERRY PICKED INTEL that made it look like Iraq was a threat and/or responsible for 9/11, thus justifying the invasion and occupation.

I remember this shit like it was yesterday. Stop. There wasn't some wild, massive bipartisan consensus. There was only those who supported the war, and those who opposed it. Most of those who opposed it were Democrats, including Barack Obama.




You are among the most partisan people on all of JPP because you cannot help yourself from being compelled to bullshit everyone.

Whether that bullshit is your lies about mail-in ballots, to your bullshit about HCQ and COVID. Every single fucking thing you said last year was completely wrong and/or a lie. Every. Single. Fucking. Thing.

Not for nothing, but your consistency of being wrong about everything is the only thing that I know about you.

If dukkha says something, chances are the opposite is the case, or what he said needs to be held to scrutiny because it's not the full truth.




Biden's not President yet, so we don't actually know what his Administration is going to do.

What we DO KNOW is that the current Administration's pro-Russia policy is because of the favors they owe Russia for helping them get elected in 2016.

Why else would Paul Manafort, while campaign manager for Trump, ask Klimnik to give confidential GOP polling data to Deripaska?
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LMAO
soo prdictable....tell me what is Trump's "pro Russia" policy?

funding Ukraine in Donbass?
more and more sanctions on oligarchs?
Expansion of European Reassurance Initiative
what?

as to the start up -it's lonng been debated - I was strongly against going in. Just like Libya. Just like Syria
 
LV426 said:
So you ignore actual Tribunals because you have a narrative that you need to protect because if that narrative gets picked apart, the entire dukkha tower collapses like a game of Jenga.
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WTF are you yammering on? "tribunals" LMAO -kangaroo courts.

Read the UK report..digest it..it's solid..then get back to me with more of your lies to debunk
 
dukkha said:
LMAO
soo prdictable....tell me what is Trump's "pro Russia" policy?
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Uhhhh...letting them hack our entire defense grid and then not even telling the truth about it!


funding Ukraine in Donbass?
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WTF are you talking about?


more and more sanctions on oligarchs?
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MORE? No...they're not more. And they removed sanctions!


Expansion of European Reassurance Initiative
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Never happened and didn't happen and won't happen during Trump.


as to the start up -it's lonng been debated - I was strongly against going in. Just like Libya. Just like Syria
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I don't believe you because you've spent so much time here lying about everything. You won't even say why you're lying. You're maintaining that you aren't, but we both know you are. So why are you doing it? What is the reason?
 
dukkha said:
WTF are you yammering on? "tribunals" LMAO -kangaroo courts.
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Yeah, the Nazis said the same thing about their tribunals. Milosevic too. You're in good company there. Way to prove you're not a fascist by...acting like a fascist.


Read the UK report..digest it..it's solid
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No, it's not solid. I've read it. It's horseshit that isn't accepted by any IC community anywhere...except for maybe Russia.

Boy, isn't it weird how everything always seems to come back to Russia with you? What's that all about?
 
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