$350 wine? Ryan's buyin'?

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Paul Ryan may be asking for austerity from American taxpayers, but clearly he’s none-too-concerned about his own actions in the face of austerity.


Rutgers University business professor Susan Feinberg witnessed Ryan and two other men drinking two bottles of wine worth $350 apiece.



The restaurant was Bistro Bis. Feinberg, dining with her husband, apparently approached the party of three and pointed out Ryan’s hypocrisy.



Ryan then denied any knowledge of the price of wine, which means one of two things prior to the Feinberg’s reproach:


1) Ryan had no intention of paying, which is a Congressional ethics violation since the dinner/wine would be a gift over $100,


or


2) Ryan knew the price, was sharing the bill, but is liquid enough to not care about the hit to the wallet.




http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/116094/should-austerity-czar-paul-ryan-face-ethics-charges-over-700-wine-bill-with-investors/
 
The other two men were later identified over the weekend as Cliff Asness and John Cochrane, with Asness being a high-profile hedge fund manager and founder of AQR Capital, which manages $26 billion. Cochrane is the AQR Capital Management Distinguished Service Professor of Finance at the University of Chicago.




Ryan should have exercised more caution with whom he was dining and known that the meal could be construed as a lobbyist’s gift—which, he did, but only after Feinberg pointed out the ethical breach.








http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/116...cs-charges-over-700-wine-bill-with-investors/
 
Another nothing sandwich. Ryan can spend his money how he wishes, it is the government's money that he needs to be thrifty with.
 
Damocles said:
Another nothing sandwich. Ryan can spend his money how he wishes, it is the government's money that he needs to be thrifty with.
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Was it his money?


Or did the hedge fund manager pay?


BTW, it's the taxpayers' money - not the governments'.
 
Onceler said:
Did he really ask Americans to curtail spending? We're a consumer-based economy...
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Ryan's friend ordered the wine. But due to congressional rules he was required to pay for it due to the cost of the bottle. Imagine that... a politician abiding by the rules.... I can see why Dems may not comprehend this.
 
Onceler said:
Did he really ask Americans to curtail spending? We're a consumer-based economy...
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More nothing for the sandwich. Tell me when he told Americans that they couldn't spend their own money on what they wanted within their means and you might have a "gotcha" moment. My bet is even you realize that this is a stupid nothing sandwich.
 
Damocles said:
More nothing for the sandwich. Tell me when he told Americans that they couldn't spend their own money on what they wanted within their means and you might have a "gotcha" moment. My bet is even you realize that this is a stupid nothing sandwich.
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So you see nothing curious in the public face of "shared sacrifice" wining and dining with a hedge fund manager whose business is directly impacted by Congressional legislation?


These nothing sandwiches you gobble appear to have affected your senses.
 
Damocles said:
Do you read your own story? He paid for his own meal. BTW - We The People, we are the government.
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I wonder if he'd have paid if he hadn't been confronted. We'll never know....this time.


Nice dance step on the taxpayer/government thing, BTW.
 
(\(\(\/)/)/) said:
So you see nothing curious in the public face of "shared sacrifice" wining and dining with a hedge fund manager whose business is directly impacted by Congressional legislation?


These nothing sandwiches you gobble appear to have affected your senses.
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Again, there is a difference when speaking of others money for which you have responsibility and your own. Tell me again where Ryan has told anybody that they shouldn't buy something that they want that is within their means, if you can find that you might actually get some meat for this nothing sandwich, other than that it is just stupid jealousy from a dumb woman who spent an inordinate amount for her own wine.

Nobody in government suggests that people shouldn't spend their own money on stuff they can afford and want, it's stupid to pretend that it is equivalent when speaking about crippling government debt and the immorality of charging our children for our own largesse.

Even my 7 year old knows the difference between buying something with her own money and asking me to buy it for her.

If Ryan was spending anybody else's money you might have a point, or if it was paid for by taxpayer money rather than from his own accounts... None of that is true though. This is one of the stupidest attempts at "gotcha" politics I have ever seen.
 
Superfreak said:
Ryan's friend ordered the wine. But due to congressional rules he was required to pay for it due to the cost of the bottle. Imagine that... a politician abiding by the rules.... I can see why Dems may not comprehend this.
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Yeah, no appearance of impropriety here....a hedge fund manager and a Congressman who sits on the Budget Committee swilling expensive plonk.


I'm sure you'd see no problem with a Dem having the same experience with a labor union official, right?
 
(\(\(\/)/)/) said:
Yeah, no appearance of impropriety here....a hedge fund manager and a Congressman who sits on the Budget Committee swilling expensive plonk.


I'm sure you'd see no problem with a Dem having the same experience with a labor union official, right?
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So long as they pay for their own wine I couldn't care any less.
 
Damocles said:
Again, there is a difference when speaking of others money for which you have responsibility and your own. Tell me again where Ryan has told anybody that they shouldn't buy something that they want that is within their means, if you can find that you might actually get some meat for this nothing sandwich, other than that it is just stupid jealousy from a dumb woman who spent an inordinate amount for her own wine. Nobody in government suggests that people shouldn't spend their own money on stuff they can afford and want, it's stupid to pretend that it is equivalent when speaking about crippling government debt and the immorality of charging our children for our own largesse. Even my 7 year old knows the difference between buying something with her own money and asking me to buy it for her.
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Nice strawman. Nobody says citizens cannot spend their own money. Somebody definitely says elected officials can't have citizens' money spent on them.




The telling thing is that Ryan denied knowing the price of the wine that he - according to you - ordered and intended to pay for all along.



I particularly admire the way you blithely ignore the fact that a sitting Congressman was apparently being expensively feted by a hedge fund manager until an outraged citizen called him on it.
 
Damocles said:
More nothing for the sandwich. Tell me when he told Americans that they couldn't spend their own money on what they wanted within their means and you might have a "gotcha" moment. My bet is even you realize that this is a stupid nothing sandwich.
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That's why I'm asking the question, fool. I was waiting for an answer, because it would seem ludicrous if he really asked Americans to curtail their spending, and I have no problem with people spending their own money on anything, at any time.
 
Onceler said:
That's why I'm asking the question, fool. I was waiting for an answer, because it would seem ludicrous if he really asked Americans to curtail their spending, and I have no problem with people spending their own money on anything, at any time.
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You have no problem with a hedge fund manager buying expensive dinners for Congresspersons?
 
Onceler said:
That's why I'm asking the question, fool. I was waiting for an answer, because it would seem ludicrous if he really asked Americans to curtail their spending, and I have no problem with people spending their own money on anything, at any time.
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another typical partisan hypocrite whine from onceler...who never said boo about obama asking people to tighten their belts etc...while he did not tighten his

obama doing same = good
 
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