3,700 Kids Killed So Far

Hawkeye10 said:
My sympathy tanks are dry...you shit quality people have earned this Hell on Earth that is here.....I spent almost my entire adult life learning and increasingly on the alarms....I did my part.
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You're a demented drunk who hates his life and everyone in it, #10. Get help before you hurt yourself or someone else.
 
Earl said:
Israel warns the Palestinians before they start bombing attacks. Israel provides corridors for them to leave.

Hamas uses human shields and puts military installations under hospitals, in schools and civilian areas.

After the slaughter of Israeli men, women and infants, what is Israel supposed to do...they have no choice other than to destroy the barbarians who attacked them.

War has unintended consequences and there would be no war now if Hamas had not slaughtered Israeli men, women and infants...burning them alive...be-heading them, even infants.

Israel has no choice, fight or die. Hamas's charter includes the "death of Israel." If Hamas stopped fighting, there would be no more war, if Israel stopped fighting, there would be no more Israel.
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So Palestinian civilians should pay the price for the brutality and savagery of HAMAS? It's okay, because war has unintended consequences? You do not believe in rules of war - is that what you are saying? Please, be clear.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
And because Israel could do nothing without US support the US too, the same fucks who run around the world talking about rules based order and the need to fight for it. Americans are not just hypocrites, we are liars, and we are going down...HARD.
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:thinking:

Can you post without being so emotional?
 
ExpressLane said:
Kindly suggest how the IDF should proceed
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You're missing my point.

I am not faulting the Israelis for trying to take out Hamas.

My arguments here are centered around what has been, quite honestly, shocking to me in terms of the callous disregard for civilian lives in Gaza.

Just look at this thread. Why are posters here citing that children are being armed, or that "most" of Gaza voted for or support Hamas? Explain that to me. Explain how that is NOT marginalizing those citizens, and attempting to make people care less about them.
 
Dante6 said:
So Palestinian civilians should pay the price for the brutality and savagery of HAMAS? It's okay, because war has unintended consequences? You do not believe in rules of war - is that what you are saying? Please, be clear.
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How should the IDF conduct this war so that there are no civilian casualties.
 
BartenderElite said:
You're missing my point.

I am not faulting the Israelis for trying to take out Hamas.

My arguments here are centered around what has been, quite honestly, shocking to me in terms of the callous disregard for civilian lives in Gaza.

Just look at this thread. Why are posters here citing that children are being armed, or that "most" of Gaza voted for or support Hamas? Explain that to me. Explain how that is NOT marginalizing those citizens, and attempting to make people care less about them.
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People had the opportunity to vote and those that cared voted and the majority won. If there was a majority that didn't vote it is their fault Hamas has been placed in charge.

Would you allow your kids to be taught this?

 
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ExpressLane said:
People had the opportunity to vote and those that cared voted and the majority won. If there was a majority that didn't vote it is their fault Hamas has been placed in charge.
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See that? You just did EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

It is genuinely shocking to me.

My conscience is clear. I'm one of the few on this thread & even on this board advocating for innocents on both sides. I'm not trying to marginalize anyone, or dehumanize them. And especially children, who make up a very large portion of the population in Gaza.

Children.
 
BartenderElite said:
You're missing my point.

I am not faulting the Israelis for trying to take out Hamas.

My arguments here are centered around what has been, quite honestly, shocking to me in terms of the callous disregard for civilian lives in Gaza.

Just look at this thread. Why are posters here citing that children are being armed, or that "most" of Gaza voted for or support Hamas? Explain that to me. Explain how that is NOT marginalizing those citizens, and attempting to make people care less about them.
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Don't try to spin out of this. Suggest how the IDF should attack Hamas without hurting civilians. Hamas is hiding munitions in schools and hospitals so what should the IDF do how many of their soldiers should die defending the lives of civilians.
 
Dante6 said:
Not sure why you just went to an either/or. Framing what little I've posted in this way is disingenuous and disrespectful.
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Either or? I asked what YOU would do. No you have waded in with your opinion don't be shy now. Just tell us what the IDF should do in response to Hamas monstrous blood thirsty cowardly attack on civilians.
 
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ExpressLane said:
What if those children are now 18.
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Seriously?

Once they're 18, they're not children. But I still feel compassion for them, as any Christian should. I can't imagine being raised to hate and to fight like some there have.

You are moving the goalposts all over the place. You didn't answer my question before. Why are some here arguing that most voted in Hamas? Why are some arguing that children are being armed? What is the point of that, aside from dehumanizing the population there so that we don't care about them?

Israel is going to do what they have to do, hopefully w/ care. There will be collateral damage, as there is in war. But some here are urging us not to care about that - that the innocents in Gaza are not worth caring about. That is indisputable.
 
I'm done on this thread. As I said before, I didn't think the idea that children are innocents who are worth protecting would be a controversial one.

And that's all it is. Both sides have innocent people - regular civilians who are just trying to work & get through life, and children. To try to portray either side monolithically is exactly what contributes to the perpetual cycle of hate. Once we start seeing people as individuals, we'll move forward in a much more positive direction.
 
BartenderElite said:
Children taught to fight at a very early age deserve our compassion. Not hate.
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I don't hate them. But I don't prioritize Palestinian children over Jewish children. If the IDF doesn't obliterate Hamas they will do it again and again. I saw a video of Hamas leader promising to do exactly that same thing.
 
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