29% think armed revolt might be necessary

Libertad! said:
So... let me get this straight. You want to hold an armed revolt, either forcing the government to establish corporate law, or overthrowing it altogether? I'm as anti-government as you, but, really, that's just stupid.
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don't pretend to know what I want to do or hope to do. you just get it wrong.
 
blackascoal said:
Because they can see and hear everything you do if you're targeted or suspected. Do you have that technology?

AND, because some of the people around you are going to point you out .. and if you don't know that .. best to keep one bullet in your pistol .. just in case.

This isn't the 17th century.
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this is why we've adopted the Bill Clinton rules of engagement. people that point us out, die. you may not want to help us and that's fine. Hurt us, and we'll take you out.
 
Steelplate said:
Well, why do you boys keep bringing up the subject? You had Granule chomping at the bit, STY, 911, and ILA....and of course you bringing it up on a semi-regular basis.

Basically, what I am hearing from you guys is this "shit's not going the way I want it to, so fuck it.... circle the wagons!"
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then you are only hearing what you want to hear and ignoring reality
 
blackascoal said:
Neither the Viet Cong, the Chechens, the Afghans, nor the Iraqis faced the technology, firepower, or populace that the anarchists will face here.

I hate to step on anyone's fantasy .. but FIRST, there aren't enough of them to even make a difference. Sure, everybody is on board and gung ho .. until the shooting starts. Won't be long before they start turning on each other.

It's a fantasy.
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so let me see if I have this right. The US government and it's military is unwilling to unleash it's full might, power, and fury on enemy nations, but will have no qualms about nuking it's own rebellious citizens?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwy...s-believe-armed-revolution-might-be-necessary

Twenty-nine percent of registered voters think that an armed revolution might be necessary in the next few years in order to protect liberties, according to a Public Mind poll by Fairleigh Dickinson University.

The poll, which surveyed 863 registered voters and had a margin of error of +/-3.4, focused on both gun control and the possibility of a need for an armed revolution in the United States to protect liberty.

The survey asked whether respondents agreed, disagreed, neither agreed nor disagreed or did not know or refused to respond to the statement: "In the next few years, an armed revolution might be necessary in order to protect our liberties"

Twenty-nine percent said they agreed, 47 percent said they disagreed, 18 percent said they neither agreed nor disagreed, 5 percent said they were unsure, and 1 percent refused to respond.
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30% of armed voters should be able to do it.
 
maineman said:
what will we do it 25 million people take up arms against the government?

shoot them like traitorous dogs in the street, that's what.
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25 million vs. 5 million??? or are you seriously suggesting that people like you, who won't stand up to the government, will suddenly get all courageous and take up arms to fight your own neighbors?
 
Dungheap said:
I don't mean to inject a little reality in this delightful little spate of make-belive you kids are playing, but the insurgency analogy would be apt only in the event of an outside force invading the U.S. Think Red Dawn (which I'm guessing some of you have seen far too many times than is healthy).
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you haven't grasped the concept of numbers yet, have you?
 
blackascoal said:
:0) This is quite fascinating folly.

You can't seriously believe that 29% of Americans would take to armed revolution. That's laughable. That's a right-wing fantasy.

And you're counting on the military? :0) That's a joke.

Dude, they are fully prepared for those who live inside video games.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990
allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995
allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997
allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998
allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999
allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000
allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001
allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002
designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003
allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004
allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005
allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

They will infiltrate any band of terrorists .. as they will be designated .. and soon their own mothers will be turning on them, as well as neighbors, family, and friends.

I find this debate quite funny. :0)
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and yet two people shut down an entire city and had 10k cops/military patrolling the streets. how many small units of insurgents do you think could paralyze this entire nation?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
25 million vs. 5 million??? or are you seriously suggesting that people like you, who won't stand up to the government, will suddenly get all courageous and take up arms to fight your own neighbors?
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I am seriously suggesting that you need to grow the fuck up and pull your head out of the fantasy novels and comic books that apparently fill your life.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
and yet two people shut down an entire city and had 10k cops/military patrolling the streets. how many small units of insurgents do you think could paralyze this entire nation?
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for a few days, maybe. THEN, they'd be shot in the street like the traitorous dogs that they were... and then, just like Boston, the rest of us would stand strong together and go back to watching baseball.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
and yet two people shut down an entire city and had 10k cops/military patrolling the streets. how many small units of insurgents do you think could paralyze this entire nation?
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I know this must have already been brought up, but I wonder how many people (in the Boston area) all the sudden wanted a gun. Hahahaha
 
maineman said:
for a few days, maybe. THEN, they'd be shot in the street like the traitorous dogs that they were... and then, just like Boston, the rest of us would stand strong together and go back to watching baseball.
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i'm sure that in your statist mindset, this is what you see. then you'd be totally shocked and catatonic when you see it happen in 25 or 30 cities. what do you do then?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
i'm sure you see something in this statement of yours, but maybe you should be a bit more clear on it.
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Don't they (Massachusetts) have some really strict gun laws?

Don't a lot of em want to take away everyones right to own a gun?

If so, such people may not own a gun.

So my statement was directed at the fact that they (Bostonians) probably would have liked to have had a gun while this idiot was on the loose, and everyone was locked in their homes.
 
blackascoal said:
:0)

You must be joking .. but on second thought .. hey, perhaps you're right and you can outgun and out technology the government.

Please let me know when it begins so I can stock up on popcorn. :0)
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What makes you think the government is going to allow you to have popcorn, in your internment camp?
 
Steelplate said:
Well, why do you boys keep bringing up the subject? You had Granule chomping at the bit, STY, 911, and ILA....and of course you bringing it up on a semi-regular basis.

Basically, what I am hearing from you guys is this "shit's not going the way I want it to, so fuck it.... circle the wagons!"
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Now you're wallowing in your stupidity, again.
That wasn't what was said or implied; but you go ahead and convince yourself that it was. :palm:
How is me responding to a question, "...chomping at the bit..."
 
blackascoal said:
:0) This is quite fascinating folly.

You can't seriously believe that 29% of Americans would take to armed revolution. That's laughable. That's a right-wing fantasy.

And you're counting on the military? :0) That's a joke.

Dude, they are fully prepared for those who live inside video games.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990
allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995
allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997
allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998
allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999
allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000
allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001
allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002
designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003
allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004
allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005
allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

They will infiltrate any band of terrorists .. as they will be designated .. and soon their own mothers will be turning on them, as well as neighbors, family, and friends.

I find this debate quite funny. :0)
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Sometimes you confuse me BAC. Did you post those in seriousness?

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-executive-orders/

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/executiveorders.asp

SmarterthanYou said:
i'm nuts.
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Agreed.

USFREEDOM911 said:
What makes you think the government is going to allow you to have popcorn, in your internment camp?
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You'll be one of the first we round up. You'll be able to let him know.
 
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