20% Under 40 Identify as LGBTQ

Iolo/Penderyn said:
You are living in a mediaeval dream, matey. This obsession with sex is a product of clerical celibacy, imposed because it made the priests easier to control.
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Some guys would beat up fags. I had a good buddy from high school who went full bi/tran/drag whatever it was.,

We used to snort coke and go clubbing downtown Baltimore after graduating high school.
He'd go full drag. I went along for the partying

But he (Bruce) got killed one night - some weird sex thing, back then there was a lot of violence in gay pick up clubs. Nice guy. Isn't it a pity.
 
Diesel said:
I'm "claiming" (your favorite word) that affirmative action doesn't provide an undue benefit to people who aren't white.
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If it uses race as any part of the consideration, it's an undue benefit.

Should an employer be able to refuse to hire someone using race as a consideration?
 
dukkha said:
Some guys would beat up fags. I had a good buddy from high school who went full bi/tran/drag whatever it was.,

We used to snort coke and go clubbing downtown Baltimore after graduating high school.
He'd go full drag. I went along for the partying

But he (Bruce) got killed one night - some weird sex thing, back then there was a lot of violence in gay pick up clubs. Nice guy. Isn't it a pity.
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Sounds to me like Bruce didn't killed because he was a fag rather by putting himself in a bad situation.
 
CFM said:
If it uses race as any part of the consideration, it's an undue benefit.

Should an employer be able to refuse to hire someone using race as a consideration?
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I don't have time to give a racist a lesson he can't comprehend about black American history. You're clearly near the end of your miserable life anyway. Don't worry about the way we run our society.
 
Diesel said:
CFM said:
If it uses race as any part of the consideration, it's an undue benefit.

Should an employer be able to refuse to hire someone using race as a consideration?
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I don't have time to give a racist a lesson he can't comprehend about black American history. You're clearly near the end of your miserable life anyway. Don't worry about the way we run our society.
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I hate to say this, but CFM has a valid point. What is the purpose of the 14th Amendment? Making special rules for special people is just taking the nation down a rabbit hole.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I hate to say this, but CFM has a valid point. What is the purpose of the 14th Amendment? Making special rules for special people is just taking the nation down a rabbit hole.
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Diesel doesn't consider it special rules. Those that support such things call it "leveling the playing field". Their argument is basically saying that using race was wrong when it denied certain group but using the same thing, race, is OK as long as it benefits those groups.
 
CFM said:
Diesel doesn't consider it special rules. Those that support such things call it "leveling the playing field". Their argument is basically saying that using race was wrong when it denied certain group but using the same thing, race, is OK as long as it benefits those groups.
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Something like that. This country formed itself on a foundation of racism and then supported it with racist systems to this very day. We can't just "give" minorities the rights that white men usually had because as history has already shown us, that didn't work. White people need to quit bitching about equality when they hoarded it for themselves forever.
 
Diesel said:
Something like that. This country formed itself on a foundation of racism and then supported it with racist systems to this very day. We can't just "give" minorities the rights that white men usually had because as history has already shown us, that didn't work. White people need to quit bitching about equality when they hoarded it for themselves forever.
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Not all Whites were treated so well. Jews & White Catholics were treated pretty poorly & still sometimes are.
 
Iolo/Penderyn said:
The mugs like to have labels like 'white' that allow them to feel superior to somebody while their pockets are picked and they get shat on.
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Sure, Whites aren't all the same.

A Finn & Greek have little in common.

Just like Blacks aren't all the same.

Similarly Blacks don't all necessarily have much in common.

A Nigerian immigrant in my town says Black Americans are lazy due to welfare.

That Nigerians are more successful in the USA for that reason.
 
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