2 to 1 people think the healthcare bill did not go far enough

FTA:
Overall, 30 percent favored the legislation, while 40 percent opposed it, and another 30 percent remained neutral.


WTF? Are you really this bad at math? Or are you just dishonest?
 
I like Rasmussen -- and lets not go anywhere near saying that Rasmussen is partisan... they are the most accurate and were on target all through the last Presidential polling .....

Monday, September 20, 2010

Sixty-one percent (61%) of Likely U.S. Voters now at least somewhat favor repeal of the new national health care law, including 50% who Strongly Favor it. That’s up eight points from a week ago and the highest level of opposition measured since late May.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 33% of Likely Voters oppose repeal. Since the passage of the bill in late March, a majority of voters have consistently favored repeal of the new law, with support ranging from a low of 53% to a high of 63%.

Only 33% say the health care plan will be good for the country, the lowest level measured since late July. Fifty-six percent (56%) disagree and believe the new law will be bad for the United States.

On both questions, there is a large divide between mainstream voters and the Political Class. While 74% of Mainstream voters favor repeal, 74% of the Political Class are opposed. Likewise, most Mainstream voters (71%) feel the health care law will hurt the country, but 68% of the Political Class believe the law will be beneficial.

(Want a free daily e-mail update ? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on September 18-19, 2010 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95%level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Sixty-one percent (61%) of all voters nationwide say the health care law will increase the federal deficit. Just 11% feel the new law will reduce the deficit, while another 18% say it will have no impact. These findings show little change since late March.

A strong majority (60%) feel that under the new law, the cost of health care will go up. Only 13% say costs will go down, and 18% say they will stay about the same. These findings, too, have remained fairly consistent since passage of the bill.

Forty-five percent (45%) of Americans expect to spend more for health care a year from now than they are spending right now.

Only 20% say the quality of health care will get better under the new law. Just over half (53%) feel the quality of health care will get worse. Twenty-one percent (21%) expect it to say the same.

While debate continues to rage in the country over the national health care bill, Americans are only slightly more confident that the private sector has a better chance than the federal government of maintaining quality care and controlling costs.

Recent polling finds that 40% of Americans nationwide say they have chosen not to fill a prescription because it cost too much. Thirty-nine percent (39%) also say that they have postponed a medical procedure or checkup to save money in the past six months.

Rasmussen Reports is an electronic media company specializing in the collection, publication and distribution of public opinion polling information. We poll on a variety of topics in the fields of politics, business and lifestyle, updating our site’s content on a news cycle throughout the day, everyday.
 
FTA:
The poll found that about four in 10 adults think the new law did not go far enough to change the health care system, ...


learn some math, you idiot

A new AP poll finds that Americans who think the law should have done more outnumber those who think the government should stay out of health care by 2-to-1.

The poll found that about four in 10 adults think the new law did not go far enough to change the health care system, regardless of whether they support the law, oppose it or remain neutral. On the other side, about one in five say they oppose the law because they think the federal government should not be involved in health care at all.
 
I like Rasmussen -- and lets not go anywhere near saying that Rasmussen is partisan... they are the most accurate and were on target all through the last Presidential polling .....

Monday, September 20, 2010

Sixty-one percent (61%) of Likely U.S. Voters now at least somewhat favor repeal of the new national health care law, including 50% who Strongly Favor it. That’s up eight points from a week ago and the highest level of opposition measured since late May.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 33% of Likely Voters oppose repeal. Since the passage of the bill in late March, a majority of voters have consistently favored repeal of the new law, with support ranging from a low of 53% to a high of 63%.

Only 33% say the health care plan will be good for the country, the lowest level measured since late July. Fifty-six percent (56%) disagree and believe the new law will be bad for the United States.

On both questions, there is a large divide between mainstream voters and the Political Class. While 74% of Mainstream voters favor repeal, 74% of the Political Class are opposed. Likewise, most Mainstream voters (71%) feel the health care law will hurt the country, but 68% of the Political Class believe the law will be beneficial.

(Want a free daily e-mail update ? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on September 18-19, 2010 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95%level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Sixty-one percent (61%) of all voters nationwide say the health care law will increase the federal deficit. Just 11% feel the new law will reduce the deficit, while another 18% say it will have no impact. These findings show little change since late March.

A strong majority (60%) feel that under the new law, the cost of health care will go up. Only 13% say costs will go down, and 18% say they will stay about the same. These findings, too, have remained fairly consistent since passage of the bill.

Forty-five percent (45%) of Americans expect to spend more for health care a year from now than they are spending right now.

Only 20% say the quality of health care will get better under the new law. Just over half (53%) feel the quality of health care will get worse. Twenty-one percent (21%) expect it to say the same.

While debate continues to rage in the country over the national health care bill, Americans are only slightly more confident that the private sector has a better chance than the federal government of maintaining quality care and controlling costs.

Recent polling finds that 40% of Americans nationwide say they have chosen not to fill a prescription because it cost too much. Thirty-nine percent (39%) also say that they have postponed a medical procedure or checkup to save money in the past six months.

Rasmussen Reports is an electronic media company specializing in the collection, publication and distribution of public opinion polling information. We poll on a variety of topics in the fields of politics, business and lifestyle, updating our site’s content on a news cycle throughout the day, everyday.

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and are you saying that AP is biased?

since i am on medicare i suppose that i do not care, but i have children so i do care and am in the group that thinks that the law did not go far enough

my eldest granddaughter is a college student and would not be insured if she was not on her parent's policy - preexisting conditions and all (asthma/allergies)
 
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and are you saying that AP is biased?

since i am on medicare i suppose that i do not care, but i have children so i do care and am in the group that thinks that the law did not go far enough

my eldest granddaughter is a college student and would not be insured if she was not on her parent's policy - preexisting conditions and all (asthma/allergies)
No, the AP is not biased and I don't think anyone said that.
The AP poll was conducted by Stanford University with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.
It is Stanford and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation that are biased....

and not to be uncaring, but your grand daughter along with mine and every ones need to purchase their own insurance....health, car, house, life, flood, fire, mortgage, dental and so on.....No one owes them anything, not me and not the government....
 
A new AP poll finds that Americans who think the law should have done more outnumber those who think the government should stay out of health care by 2-to-1.

The poll found that about four in 10 adults think the new law did not go far enough to change the health care system, regardless of whether they support the law, oppose it or remain neutral. On the other side, about one in five say they oppose the law because they think the federal government should not be involved in health care at all.

the numbers do not jive, that's why I ask if you guys can't do math.

The impression you are trying to give by comparing one group of zealots (those who think the bill didn't do enough) to another group (those who don't want any government intervention) is that the population favors gov intervention 2 to 1.

that's not what the poll revealed.

There are twice as many nuts who think it wasn't enough as there were nuts who think government has no role.

Still, 40% want it repealed compared to 30% who want it.

You compared subsets, not the set
 
the numbers do not jive, that's why I ask if you guys can't do math.

The impression you are trying to give by comparing one group of zealots (those who think the bill didn't do enough) to another group (those who don't want any government intervention) is that the population favors gov intervention 2 to 1.

that's not what the poll revealed.

There are twice as many nuts who think it wasn't enough as there were nuts who think government has no role.

Still, 40% want it repealed compared to 30% who want it.

You compared subsets, not the set

which is why i prefer raw data
 
Anything but the complete and total nationalization of the healthcare system for the people of America is just bullshit shilling for the upper class.
 
Dear assholes, THIS "A new AP poll finds that Americans who think the law should have done more outnumber those who think the government should stay out of health care by 2-to-1." IS a line out of the article.
 
Dear assholes, THIS "A new AP poll finds that Americans who think the law should have done more outnumber those who think the government should stay out of health care by 2-to-1." IS a line out of the article.
Hence the old adage..."Figures don't lie, but liars can sure figure."
 
No, the AP is not biased and I don't think anyone said that.
The AP poll was conducted by Stanford University with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.
It is Stanford and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation that are biased....

???

The ap is biased or at least the authors of this article are. There is not much reason to doubt the numbers. It's the spin the authors of this article put on it that is misleading.
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_healt...jA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawNhcHBvbGxyZXBlYWw-



A new AP poll finds that Americans who think the law should have done more outnumber those who think the government should stay out of health care by 2-to-1.

[snip]..The poll found that about four in 10 adults think the new law did not go far enough to change the health care system, regardless of whether they support the law, oppose it or remain neutral. On the other side, about one in five say they oppose the law because they think the federal government should not be involved in health care at all.

So... We have 40% who think Obamacare doesn't "go far enough" while 20% think government shouldn't be involved in healthcare at all. (that would be those who favor abolishing Medicare and Medicaid.) If my math is correct, that's only 60%, what about the remaining 40%? Could it possibly be that they think Obamacare went too far, but some reforms were needed? Hmmm?

This is the kind of blatant dishonesty and hackery we are facing from Liberal Democrats. If they are this dishonest in the presentation, I have to wonder how honest the actual poll results are. LIE about it all you like, the PEOPLE will have their say in November.
 
So... We have 40% who think Obamacare doesn't "go far enough" while 20% think government shouldn't be involved in healthcare at all. (that would be those who favor abolishing Medicare and Medicaid.) If my math is correct, that's only 60%, what about the remaining 40%? Could it possibly be that they think Obamacare went too far, but some reforms were needed? Hmmm?

No reason to assume that either. That 40% may also believe the reform was just enough (not too much or too little) or are unsure either way.
 
Let us also remember, this 40% who doesn't think Obamacare goes far enough, also includes the nutbags who think it should have covered dogs, cats, and aliens as well! That's probably close to the same amount as the nutbags who think we should abolish Medicare and Medicaid, but they are just lumped in to the 40% like they are 'normal' people. In short, this whole survey is just a bunch of liberal pinhead propaganda, with nothing of substance to offer. In poll after poll, over 60% of Americans want Obamacare REPEALED!
 
There's no reason to believe ANY of it, because it is coming from people with an agenda and an objective. It's called "propaganda!" Look it up!

That is called ad hom. Look it up. You have jack shit for proof that there was any problem with the poll. But it did not stop you from misrepresenting the numbers.
 
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