1990 pages....

IMHO, if you can't even re-regulate 1/8 of the economy in ten pages on a level that the average conservative can understand (we're talking less than first grade reading level here), you're utterly retarded.

And your retarded, utterly moronic post here won't make anything out of these 1,990 pages of sheep $hit anything more than 1,990 pages of sheep $hit either.

The "They do it too defense" won't make this piece of feces smell any better.

NEXT!
 
Yes, because corporations, whom conservatives love oh so much, always post completely and totally legible documents in a public place concerning all of their actions. And their dealing with things far more complex than re-regulating 1/8 of the economy, as well.
When they are the government they should. Sunshine laws are a good thing.
 
Yes, I did see the parts. Which one are you referring to?

Page 109: Abortion coverage prohibited as part of minimum benefits package.

Page 147: No preemption of state laws regarding abortion.

Page 148: Non-discrimination on abortion and respect for rights of conscience.

Page 246: Prohibition of use of public funds for abortion coverage.


These are just a few of the 10 pages (out of 1990) that mention the topic.
Page 110 speaks to the abortions that will be paid for through this, and it depends on future legislation as well, as it simply states that any abortion that could be legally funded through public means at the time six months before inception of the program (2013) will be funded through this program.
 
I think the abortions that will be paid for (if any are paid for through government funds) will be in cases that insurance already covers, such as rape. I don't think that's very controversial.
 
I think the abortions that will be paid for (if any are paid for through government funds) will be in cases that insurance already covers, such as rape. I don't think that's very controversial.
It depends entirely on what laws are passed between now and then. You can "think" based on what may be legal now, but that doesn't change what it says, or the reality that all of it can change even with your thoughts in the way.
 
It depends entirely on what laws are passed between now and then. You can "think" based on what may be legal now, but that doesn't change what it says, or the reality that all of it can change even with your thoughts in the way.

They don't have the votes to pass a bill that pays for at-will abortions. The Democrats for life caucus grows larger, literally, with each passing minute. Pelosi is a liberal but she's also a political realist.
 
They don't have the votes to pass a bill that pays for at-will abortions. The Democrats for life caucus grows larger, literally, with each passing minute. Pelosi is a liberal but she's also a political realist.
Which may mean that no abortions would be paid for through this means. However I think it is more likely that they hope for a change in the SCOTUS that allows a change in legislation by fiat. (Both sides).
 
Hyde Amendment makes spending federal dollars on abortion illegal, which serves as pretty good evidence that whatever the bill says is being misconstrued by interest groups to manipulate the easily manipulated.
 
...and?? Apparently you haven't read it.


From Politico's summary. What point are you trying to make?

Sec. 222. Essential benefits package defined. Outlines the broad categories of benefits required to be included in the essential benefits package, prohibits any cost-sharing for preventive benefits (including well child and well baby care), and limits annual out-of-pocket spending in the essential benefits package to $5,000 for an individual and $10,000 (indexed to CPI) for a family. Defines the initial essential benefit package as being actuarially equivalent to 70% of the package if there were no cost-sharing imposed. Requires the Secretary to assess adding counseling for domestic violence as part of the behavioral health or primary care visit. Prohibits abortion services from being made part of essential benefits package. Prohibits federal funds from being used to pay for abortion (except in cases of rape, incest, and to save life of the woman). Only private premium dollars can be used to provide abortion coverage. Where abortion coverage is provided, funds for this purpose must be segregated from other funds, including affordability credits. Includes a report regarding the need and cost of providing oral health care to adults as part of the essential benefits package. In the developing the essential benefit package, the Secretary shall support the need for assessment and counseling for domestic violence as part of the behavioral health assessment or primary care visit.

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM41_hcr_section_by_section.html
 
You really ought to read page 110 Christie...it's only one page.....it would make a lot more sense to defend what it says after you read what it says.....
 
From Politico's summary. What point are you trying to make?

I recommend you not rely too heavily upon the Politico summary....
for example, it begins....
Sec. 101. National High-Risk Pool Program. Enacts a temporary insurance program with financial assistance for those who have been uninsured for several months or denied a policy because of pre-existing conditions. The funding for this program is capped at $5 million and it terminates when those funds are exhausted or when the Health Insurance Exchange is up and running.

the difficulty for Politico is that Sec 101 provides as follows
There is appropriated to the
15 Secretary, out of any moneys in the Treasury not
16 otherwise appropriated, $5,000,000,000 to pay
17 claims against (and administrative costs of) the
18 high-risk pool under this section in excess of the pre19
miums collected with respect to eligible individuals
20 enrolled in the high-risk pool.

that's $5 billion, not $5 million and the funding doesn't simply terminate....
(2) INSUFFICIENT FUNDS.—If the Secretary es
23 timates for any fiscal year that the aggregate
24 amounts available for payment of expenses of the
25 high-risk pool will be less than the amount of the ex-

26
1 penses, the Secretary shall make such adjustments
2 as are necessary to eliminate such deficit, including
3 reducing benefits, increasing premiums, or estab
4 lishing waiting lists.

two significant errors in the first paragraph alone....
 
Yikes!
just ran across Section 343 (Page 252) which discloses the premium costs for the Exchange policy

for a family at 400% of the federal poverty rate (currently at $22,050 for a family of four) premiums are capped at 11% of income.....

so, if you make $88,200 a year, your premiums will be $9702 a year. Since I am currently paying $6876 a year, I am not impressed with my savings.
 
Yikes!
just ran across Section 343 (Page 252) which discloses the premium costs for the Exchange policy

for a family at 400% of the federal poverty rate (currently at $22,050 for a family of four) premiums are capped at 11% of income.....

so, if you make $88,200 a year, your premiums will be $9702 a year. Since I am currently paying $6876 a year, I am not impressed with my savings.

Retard,

The number you quoted was for a family of four, then the number you said you were paying was for yourself. Do you not see how that's retarded?
 
Retard,

The number you quoted was for a family of four, then the number you said you were paying was for yourself. Do you not see how that's retarded?

no, but I will ask my wife and two kids who are on the policy with me and see if they can explain it....they're good at that.........(/whispers.....that's why I picked the example of a family of four, ibbie).........
 
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