118 visits to WH

So do you think we should make everyones salary publicly available? That way you can extend your resentments to everyone and not just your neighbors?

No, that's not what I said. If you work for a private company, disclosure of your income is your business.
 
It's kind of disappointing that this thread got away from the brilliant original contention that there is clearly corruption & conspiracy based on the 118 visits.

I mean, that was so smart that I feel like it elevated the IQ of the entire board.

It clearly turned you into a drooling fool and raging apologist.
 
I don't think we're doing it to protect Obama, it's more like trying to cut off a conspiracy theory at the knees.

118 visits, many after he knew there was a problem. You really think it is a conspiracy to wonder how it is that in all those visits he didn't give a heads up? That Obama didn't know? Yes, it is indeed conjecture, but the dismissive nature of the Dems anytime something like this arises is sad.
 
Its not about jealousy, its about fairness. Our system is set up to perpetuate a fraud, the myth that working hard will get you that lifestyle is BULLSHIT, and the sooner that is common knowledge the better. Many people with an affluent lifestyle strut around suggesting that they are better and worked harder than those without that lifestyle, when very often those people were given that ability due to no attributes of there own.

I don't envy it, I simply label it as unfair. You see, I can think something is unfair without being envious of it.

Calling something "unfair" is the very definition of envy and jealousy. You are comparing lifestyles you perceive others having that you yourself do not have. Now of course you would never admit to being "jealous" or "envious" because it would not be a good character trait to admit, so you hide behind the word "unfair". Any thinking person reading your post can see that you are jealous of your neighbors.

Hell, you actually went to the trouble to look up what they earn. You actually give thought to how they live their lifestyle. Who does that other than someone who is suffering from petty jealousy? Trust me, I don't expect you to have the slef awareness to admit you are jealous. Few people would. But that is what is happening.

It is none of your fucking business how they live their life. How is it impacting you? Are they breaking any laws? Why do you care?
 
118 visits, many after he knew there was a problem. You really think it is a conspiracy to wonder how it is that in all those visits he didn't give a heads up? That Obama didn't know? Yes, it is indeed conjecture, but the dismissive nature of the Dems anytime something like this arises is sad.

SO, do you have any evidence that this guy met with the president in those 118 visits? Is it not possible he was attending social events? Meetings with others, discussion about tax policy... etc?

The premise of this thread was one of the most idiotic I've seen on the IRS "scandal". I'm happy to discuss it more if you would like.

Maybe you can start with answering the above questions... or in some other way show any meat to your allegations that 118 visits to the WH indicates what those meetings were about.
 
Calling something "unfair" is the very definition of envy and jealousy. You are comparing lifestyles you perceive others having that you yourself do not have. Now of course you would never admit to being "jealous" or "envious" because it would not be a good character trait to admit, so you hide behind the word "unfair". Any thinking person reading your post can see that you are jealous of your neighbors.

Hell, you actually went to the trouble to look up what they earn. You actually give thought to how they live their lifestyle. Who does that other than someone who is suffering from petty jealousy? Trust me, I don't expect you to have the slef awareness to admit you are jealous. Few people would. But that is what is happening.

It is none of your fucking business how they live their life. How is it impacting you? Are they breaking any laws? Why do you care?

I am NOT jealous, if you knew these people you would also not be jealous. They are not people to be envious of, I promise you! It is important to understand how our economic system works, especially if you are voting on issues relating to economic policy. Knowing how others got what they have is part of that. If you swallow the Conservative Myth that hard work and dedication is the only way to wealth you are perpetrating a fraud. Its my position that large inheritances are very often very harmful to the repentant, so no, I'm not jealous of those who got that.
 
I know of plenty of things that are UNFAIR that I am not jealous of, I am sure you do also. Think before you make such silly arguments.
 
118 visits, many after he knew there was a problem. You really think it is a conspiracy to wonder how it is that in all those visits he didn't give a heads up? That Obama didn't know? Yes, it is indeed conjecture, but the dismissive nature of the Dems anytime something like this arises is sad.


Can you tell me when Shulman knew there was a problem and what specifically he knew? Also, can you tell me how many times he actually met with the President? Finally, can you tell me how many times he visited the White House "after he knew there was a problem?"
 
SO, do you have any evidence that this guy met with the president in those 118 visits? Is it not possible he was attending social events? Meetings with others, discussion about tax policy... etc?

The premise of this thread was one of the most idiotic I've seen on the IRS "scandal". I'm happy to discuss it more if you would like.

Maybe you can start with answering the above questions... or in some other way show any meat to your allegations that 118 visits to the WH indicates what those meetings were about.

Jarod... try learning what the OP stated, then you can come on here with your self important pretense. You are still an idiot, no matter how hard you try to pretend you are intelligent.

As I stated in the OP... 118 visits in two years. Obama care had already passed prior to the bulk of those visits. As to who he visited jarod... that is the fucking point of the OP. Many of the entries did not state who he was visiting or what he was there for. Hence the question... what was he there for?

Your bullshit about him attending social events is simply you pulling something from your six. Do you have any evidence of that? No, you are simply pulling shit out of your ass.
 
Jarod... try learning what the OP stated, then you can come on here with your self important pretense. You are still an idiot, no matter how hard you try to pretend you are intelligent.

As I stated in the OP... 118 visits in two years. Obama care had already passed prior to the bulk of those visits. As to who he visited jarod... that is the fucking point of the OP. Many of the entries did not state who he was visiting or what he was there for. Hence the question... what was he there for?

Your bullshit about him attending social events is simply you pulling something from your six. Do you have any evidence of that? No, you are simply pulling shit out of your ass.

It is all speculation on both sides as, like you said, there was no record, until there is, but sides are guessing.

I think he just liked the men's room.
 
Jarod... try learning what the OP stated, then you can come on here with your self important pretense. You are still an idiot, no matter how hard you try to pretend you are intelligent.

As I stated in the OP... 118 visits in two years. Obama care had already passed prior to the bulk of those visits. As to who he visited jarod... that is the fucking point of the OP. Many of the entries did not state who he was visiting or what he was there for. Hence the question... what was he there for?

Your bullshit about him attending social events is simply you pulling something from your six. Do you have any evidence of that? No, you are simply pulling shit out of your ass.

I have no evidence who he visited, and NEITHER DO YOU, that's the point. I am not the one using this to make VERY SERIOUS allegations, so I am not the one who needs to have evidence who the guy visited.

You are using a piece of information and then assigning a meaning to that very possibly unrelated information so that it fits your agenda. I am simply pointing out how possible it is that your "Gotcha" is pure bullshit.

Its just as likely that Obama called the guy in 118 times to threaten him that if he is targeting the TEA Party he will be in big trouble.

Your argument is based on a fact that is simply just as likely to prove the opposite of your point as it is likely to prove your point.
 
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118 visits, many after he knew there was a problem. You really think it is a conspiracy to wonder how it is that in all those visits he didn't give a heads up? That Obama didn't know? Yes, it is indeed conjecture, but the dismissive nature of the Dems anytime something like this arises is sad.

Actually, it's the accusatory nature of hacks like you that is sad.

Again - what would be the threshold on the # of meetings before we'd be suspicious of conspiracy & corruption? 100? 50? How about 25?
 
Jarod... try learning what the OP stated, then you can come on here with your self important pretense. You are still an idiot, no matter how hard you try to pretend you are intelligent.

As I stated in the OP... 118 visits in two years. Obama care had already passed prior to the bulk of those visits. As to who he visited jarod... that is the fucking point of the OP. Many of the entries did not state who he was visiting or what he was there for. Hence the question... what was he there for?

Your bullshit about him attending social events is simply you pulling something from your six. Do you have any evidence of that? No, you are simply pulling shit out of your ass
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That last part is really wonderful.

No self-awareness whatsoever.
 
We know whom he visited at the White House. Mostly, he visited Nancy Ann DePerle, also known as Obama's Health Care Czar, and her assistant, Sarah Fenn. Which is completely unsurprising.
 
It is all speculation on both sides as, like you said, there was no record, until there is, but sides are guessing.

I think he just liked the men's room.

Except the records show he met with Obama specifically four times, including once in June 5th, 2012, 4pm ... after he knew about the targeting.
 
That last part is really wonderful.

No self-awareness whatsoever.

I have no evidence who he visited, and NEITHER DO YOU, that's the point. I am not the one using this to make VERY SERIOUS allegations, so I am not the one who needs to have evidence who the guy visited.

You are using a piece of information and then assigning a meaning to that very possibly unrelated information so that it fits your agenda. I am simply pointing out how possible it is that your "Gotcha" is pure bullshit.

Its just as likely that Obama called the guy in 118 times to threaten him that if he is targeting the TEA Party he will be in big trouble.

Your argument is based on a fact that is simply just as likely to prove the opposite of your point as it is likely to prove your point.
 
Except the records show he met with Obama specifically four times, including once in June 5th, 2012, 4pm ... after he knew about the targeting.

OK, so? What does that mean?

Great 118 times now has turned to 4.

So the guy decides to break Federal Law and commit a crime that should get him fired... the guy decides not to disclose this information... and later meets with his boss four times (Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the Federal Government) and to you that is evidence that he MUST have told his boss?
 
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