10 States have BANNED retailers from offering disposable PLASTIC BAGS but paper is ok

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"First day of plastic bag ban in Pittsburgh ‘no big deal’ for most shoppers

On the first morning of Pittsburgh’s ban on single-use plastic shopping bags, Betina Stamper pushed her cart through a Giant Eagle parking lot loaded with loose groceries. When she gets to her nearby North Side home, she said, she’d haul in the supplies, most packaged in plastic, in her arms.

“I think [the ban on bags] is a bit much, considering all the other things in plastic that we’re not getting rid of,” she said Saturday. “Plastic bottles, plastic containers. [They’re] saying get rid of the bags, that’s the most important thing that’s in the garbage. And it’s not.”

Delayed since 2021, the Pittsburgh bag ban is part of a slow-moving nationwide trend away from the free distribution of shopping bags."

https://www.post-gazette.com/local/...shopping-bags-pittsburgh/stories/202310140068
 
Bigdog said:
"First day of plastic bag ban in Pittsburgh ‘no big deal’ for most shoppers

On the first morning of Pittsburgh’s ban on single-use plastic shopping bags, Betina Stamper pushed her cart through a Giant Eagle parking lot loaded with loose groceries. When she gets to her nearby North Side home, she said, she’d haul in the supplies, most packaged in plastic, in her arms.

“I think [the ban on bags] is a bit much, considering all the other things in plastic that we’re not getting rid of,” she said Saturday. “Plastic bottles, plastic containers. [They’re] saying get rid of the bags, that’s the most important thing that’s in the garbage. And it’s not.”

Delayed since 2021, the Pittsburgh bag ban is part of a slow-moving nationwide trend away from the free distribution of shopping bags."

https://www.post-gazette.com/local/...shopping-bags-pittsburgh/stories/202310140068
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NY has a plastic shopping bag ban, and charges if you want paper. If someone is too stupid to own cloth shopping bags, then they can simply pile loose groceries in their trunk.

We used to have hundreds of plastic bags in the house. We did use them for disposing of cat litter, but quite often cashiers would double the bags for heavy items.

Cloth bags are the answer.
 
Althea said:
NY has a plastic shopping bag ban, and charges if you want paper. If someone is too stupid to own cloth shopping bags, then they can simply pile loose groceries in their trunk.

We used to have hundreds of plastic bags in the house. We did use them for disposing of cat litter, but quite often cashiers would double the bags for heavy items.

Cloth bags are the answer.
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But most are just using thicker plastic bags.

Cali temporarily lifted their ban during covid because the reusables brought from home are not sterile. And they have not followed thru on their promise to recycle HDPE bags.



"The thin plastic bags that used to line every bathroom trash can and litter box in California were and are made of low-density polyethylene, or LDPE. More than 30 billion of those single-use plastic carryout bags used to be distributed across California every year.

California’s 2014 bag ban law focused on grocery stores, which can no longer give you one of those thin plastic bags. But they can sell you a heftier sack made of high-density polyethylene, or HDPE."

https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2023-08-24/whats-the-deal-with-single-use-plastic-bag-bans
 
Bigdog said:
"First day of plastic bag ban in Pittsburgh ‘no big deal’ for most shoppers

On the first morning of Pittsburgh’s ban on single-use plastic shopping bags, Betina Stamper pushed her cart through a Giant Eagle parking lot loaded with loose groceries. When she gets to her nearby North Side home, she said, she’d haul in the supplies, most packaged in plastic, in her arms.

“I think [the ban on bags] is a bit much, considering all the other things in plastic that we’re not getting rid of,” she said Saturday. “Plastic bottles, plastic containers. [They’re] saying get rid of the bags, that’s the most important thing that’s in the garbage. And it’s not.”

Delayed since 2021, the Pittsburgh bag ban is part of a slow-moving nationwide trend away from the free distribution of shopping bags."

https://www.post-gazette.com/local/...shopping-bags-pittsburgh/stories/202310140068
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I’ve never seen a sea turtle tangled up and strangulated in a paper paper bag.
 
Bigdog said:
But most are just using thicker plastic bags.

Cali temporarily lifted their ban during covid because the reusables brought from home are not sterile. And they have not followed thru on their promise to recycle HDPE bags.



"The thin plastic bags that used to line every bathroom trash can and litter box in California were and are made of low-density polyethylene, or LDPE. More than 30 billion of those single-use plastic carryout bags used to be distributed across California every year.

California’s 2014 bag ban law focused on grocery stores, which can no longer give you one of those thin plastic bags. But they can sell you a heftier sack made of high-density polyethylene, or HDPE."

https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2023-08-24/whats-the-deal-with-single-use-plastic-bag-bans
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We can agree that the govt. often twists itself into knots trying to write legislation. For decades they wanted to get rid of oil based paints/finishes.

In the end, they changed the transportation laws, making it illegal for most places to ship 5 gallon cans of finish. I can buy 5 one gallon cans at twice the price, but I can no longer get 5 gallon cans unless I go to my wholesaler. They don't carry most products that I need, though.

So the issue seems to be 'single use' bags that live forever. They must believe that thicker bags will be reused, but I doubt that. I always used the bags for household garbage and the aforementioned cat litter. It could be argued that people will be buying trash can liners anyway if they don't have the shopping bags, but the sheer number of bags that each household brings home every week is astronomical.

Some cashiers put two items in each bag. I have absolutely no problem using my cloth bags. I rarely need more than two when I shop.
 
Althea said:
Some cashiers put two items in each bag. I have absolutely no problem using my cloth bags. I rarely need more than two when I shop.
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Do you ever throw the cloth bags in the washing machine?

IMO, plastic bottles are a larger problem. Especially with the popularity of bottled water.
 
I'm a highly partisan Democrat who also thinks that the plastic bag bans are very annoying.

We FDR type Dems are dying out, and the young ones just worry about all the hippie shit.
 
Bigdog said:
Do you ever throw the cloth bags in the washing machine?

IMO, plastic bottles are a larger problem. Especially with the popularity of bottled water.
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I don't buy water, I don't drink soda or juice, but I agree. Bottles are an issue, even with the deposit. I don't believe this nation truly recycles anymore since our trade war with China came with a big FUCK YOU regarding them taking our garbage.

I still separate my plastic/paper and recycle, but at the curb it all seems to go into the same truck. I don't believe them when they tell me they recycle.

If something spills in the bag I'll rinse them out. Long before our state banned the plastic, I had purchased a couple of cloth bags just for the hell of it. I was in the 'As Seen On T.V' store in the mall, and they were cheap. They have plastic clips that allow you to attach it to the sides of your shopping cart, holding it wide open.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I'm a highly partisan Democrat who also thinks that the plastic bag bans are very annoying.

We FDR type Dems are dying out, and the young ones just worry about all the hippie shit.
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Doing the right thing for the future of the planet is always annoying.

This particular issue has a very simple work around, so it's no biggie.
 
Bigdog said:
"First day of plastic bag ban in Pittsburgh ‘no big deal’ for most shoppers

On the first morning of Pittsburgh’s ban on single-use plastic shopping bags, Betina Stamper pushed her cart through a Giant Eagle parking lot loaded with loose groceries. When she gets to her nearby North Side home, she said, she’d haul in the supplies, most packaged in plastic, in her arms.

“I think [the ban on bags] is a bit much, considering all the other things in plastic that we’re not getting rid of,” she said Saturday. “Plastic bottles, plastic containers. [They’re] saying get rid of the bags, that’s the most important thing that’s in the garbage. And it’s not.”

Delayed since 2021, the Pittsburgh bag ban is part of a slow-moving nationwide trend away from the free distribution of shopping bags."

https://www.post-gazette.com/local/...shopping-bags-pittsburgh/stories/202310140068
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Shocker for the “big chiwawa,” not all plastic is recyclable, especially plastic bags, in fact, there is a code on the plastic item that designates if it is recyclable or not
 
Althea said:
Doing the right thing for the future of the planet is always annoying.

This particular issue has a very simple work around, so it's no biggie.
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I haven't been apprised of the proposed work around,
but if it involves bringing your own bags shopping,
convenience is obviously not being considered a priority.

All of these ecological crises wouldn't have occurred if population
started being governmentally controlled after WWII,
regardless of how Draconian the measures had to be.

I don't have enough time left to worry about the planet.
It should be understandable that for me, my personal convenience will always be the priority.

If others think that the planet is still salvageable,
then it's understandable that they won't agree with me.

Having plastic bags would be better than having eight billion fucking people clogging the planet.
That's my point in the most direct terms.
 
This makes little poochie SO MAD. OMG, no plastic. What will he do? He uses those plastic bags for picking up his dogshit.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I haven't been apprised of the proposed work around,
but if it involves bringing your own bags shopping,
convenience is obviously not being considered a priority.

All of these ecological crises wouldn't have occurred if population
started being governmentally controlled after WWII,
regardless of how Draconian the measures had to be.

I don't have enough time left to worry about the planet.
It should be understandable that for me, my personal convenience will always be the priority.

If others think that the planet is still salvageable,
then it's understandable that they won't agree with me.

Having plastic bags would be better than having eight billion fucking people clogging the planet.
That's my point in the most direct terms.
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No offense intended here, but fuck your convenience. :fu:

Your convenience is last on the list of priorities.

Again, no offense.
 
archives said:
Shocker for the “big chiwawa,” not all plastic is recyclable, especially plastic bags, in fact, there is a code on the plastic item that designates if it is recyclable or not
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Most city and county waste dept recycling programs will not take plastic bags in their recycle bins.

If you want them recycled, you have to take them to a grocery store and unfortunately, fewer and fewer of them are participating anymore.

Plastic is destroying the environment.
 
Nomad said:
Most city and county waste dept recycling programs will not take plastic bags in their recycle bins.

If you want them recycled, you have to take them to a grocery store and unfortunately, fewer and fewer of them are participating anymore.

Plastic is destroying the environment.
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Plastic makes civilization work.
 
Bigdog said:
"First day of plastic bag ban in Pittsburgh ‘no big deal’ for most shoppers

On the first morning of Pittsburgh’s ban on single-use plastic shopping bags, Betina Stamper pushed her cart through a Giant Eagle parking lot loaded with loose groceries. When she gets to her nearby North Side home, she said, she’d haul in the supplies, most packaged in plastic, in her arms.

“I think [the ban on bags] is a bit much, considering all the other things in plastic that we’re not getting rid of,” she said Saturday. “Plastic bottles, plastic containers. [They’re] saying get rid of the bags, that’s the most important thing that’s in the garbage. And it’s not.”

Delayed since 2021, the Pittsburgh bag ban is part of a slow-moving nationwide trend away from the free distribution of shopping bags."

https://www.post-gazette.com/local/...shopping-bags-pittsburgh/stories/202310140068
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Next time you go fishing at a Texas lake, enjoy all the plastic grocery bags floating and blowing around everywhere.
 
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