0.25 interest rate hike

Please read the history that I provided


They use that financial tool because it works to control inflation


It’s works is why they do it

Yes folks,.....everyone be sure to take your financial advice from an expert like Evince. Now there is a woman who KNOWS! :laugh:

 
Are you aware that there were industries almost totally unaffected by the pandemic? That there were industries who not only wouldnt lay anyone off, but were BEGGING to hire more? They took on ZERO risk.

I will add this though. It matters what part of the country you were in. We were in great shape here. Not everyone was so lucky. Heck...we didnt even have to wear masks.
 
People left the economy and stopped working because they realized they could manage without having the entire household working a job


People got creative and began being more entrepreneurial

That is why labor has changed


People are retaining these attitudes and practices


It will continue


Labor will have more power even as things settle down


It was a reset for people

I think in the end it will be a very positive reset of labor in the minds of average Americans
 
Yes folks,.....everyone be sure to take your financial advice from an expert like Evince. Now there is a woman who KNOWS! :laugh:


No idiot

I was saying read the FACTS and look to the experts



You are the one saying YOU know and fuck the facts and experts remember
 
Are you aware that there were industries almost totally unaffected by the pandemic? That there were industries who not only wouldnt lay anyone off, but were BEGGING to hire more? They took on ZERO risk.

oh - so you can see the future. wow - you are so fucking brilliant.

you should start a business since you know exactly what is to come
 
Branches of economics



https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/141461/economics/branches-of-economics/
1. Classical economics

Classical economics is often considered the foundation of modern economics. It was developed by Adam Smith, David Ricardo, Jean-Baptiste Say. Classical economics is based on

Operation of free markets. How the invisible hand and market mechanism can enable an efficient allocation of resources.
Classical economics suggests that generally, economies work most efficiently when government intervention is minimal and concerned with the protection of private property, promotion of free trade and limited government spending.
Classical economics does recognise that a government is needed for providing public goods, such as defence, law and order and education.
2. Neo-classical economics

Key people: Leon Walrus, William Jevons, John Hicks, George Stigler and Alfred Marshall.

Neo-classical economics built on the foundations of free-market based classical economics. It included new ideas such as

Utility maximisation.
Rational choice theory
Marginal analysis. How individuals will make decisions at the margin – choosing the best option given marginal cost and benefit.
Neo-classical economics is often considered to be orthodox economics. It is the economics taught in most text-books as the starting point for economics teaching. The tools of neo-classical economics (supply and demand, rational choice, utility maximisation) can be used in new fields and also for critiques.

3. Keynesian economics

Key people: John Maynard Keynes, Paul Samuelson.

Keynesian economics was developed in the 1930s against a backdrop of the Great Depression. The existing economic orthodoxy was at a loss to explain the persistent economic depression and mass unemployment. Keynes suggested that markets failed to clear for many reasons (e.g. paradox of thrift, negative multiplier, low confidence). Therefore, Keynes advocated government intervention to kick-start the economy.

Keynesian economics is credited with creating macroeconomics as a distinct study. Keynes argued that the aggregate economy may operate in very different ways to individual markets and different rules and policies were needed.

Keynes didn’t reject all elements of neo-classical economics but felt new ideas were needed for the macro-economy – especially with the economy in recession.

Keynesian economics
4. Monetarist economics

Key people: Milton Friedman, Anna Schwartz.

Monetarism was partly a reaction to the dominance of Keynesian economics in the post-war period. Monetarists, led by Milton Friedman argued that Keynesian fiscal policy was much less effective than Keynesians suggested. Monetarists promoted previous classical ideals, such as belief in the efficiency of markets. They also placed emphasis on the control of the money supply as a way to control inflation.

Monetarist economics became influential in the 1970s and 1980s, in a period of high inflation – which appeared to illustrate the breakdown of the post-war consensus

Monetarism
5. Austrian economics

Key people: Ludwig Von Mises, Carl Menger

This is another school of economics that was critical of state intervention, price controls. It is broadly free-market. However, it criticised elements of classical school – placing greater emphasis on the individual value and actions of an individual. For example, Austrian economists argue the value of a good reflects the marginal utility of the good – rather than the labour inputs.

Austrian economics
6. Marxist economics

Key people: Karl Marx

Emphasises unequal and unstable nature of capitalism. Seeks a radically different approach to basic economic questions. Rather than relying on free-market advocate state intervention in ownership, planning and distribution of resources.

7. Neo-liberalism/Neo-classical

A modern interpretation of classical economics. Considerable overlap with monetarism. Essentially concerned with the promotion of free-markets, competition, free trade, privatisation, lower government involvement, but some minimal state intervention in public services like health and education. Few identify as ‘neo-liberal’ – sometimes used as a term of abuse.

Neoliberalism | Related terms: Washington Consensus
New Branches of economics

Environmental economics/welfare economics

Key people: Garrett Hardin, E.F. Schumacher, Arthur Pigou.

This places greater emphasis on the environment. This can include:

Neo-classical analysis of external costs and external benefits. From this perspective, it is rational for man to reduce pollution
Market failures – tragedy of the commons, Public goods, external costs, external benefits.
Environmental economics can take a more radical approach – questioning whether economic growth is actually desirable.
Behavioural economics

Key people: Gary Becker, Amos Tversky, Daniel Kahneman, Richard Thaler, Robert J. Shiller,

Behavioural economics examines the psychology behind economic decision making and economic activity. Behavioural economics examines the limitation of the assumption individuals are perfectly rational. It includes

Bounded rationality – people make choices by rules of thumb
Irrational exuberance – People get carried away by asset bubbles.
Nudges/Choice architecture – how the framing of decisions affects the outcome
Development economics

Key people: Simon Kuznets and W. Arthur Lewis, Amartya Sen and Muhammad Yunus.

Concerned with issues of poverty and under-development in poorer countries of the world. Development economics is concerned with both micro and macro aspects of economic development. Issues include

Trade vs aid
Increasing capital investment.
Best ways to promote economic development
Third World debt
Econometrics

Key people: Jan Tinbergen

Use of data to find simple relationships. Econometrics uses statistical methods, regression models and data to predict the outcome of economic policies. For example, Okun’s law suggests a relationship between economic growth and unemployment.

Labour economics

Key people: Knut Wicksell

Concentration on wages, labour employment and labour markets. Labour economics starts from the neo-classical premise of labour supply and marginal revenue product of labour.

Recent developments in labour economics have placed greater emphasis on non-monetary factors, such as motivation, enjoyment and labour market imperfections.

Other schools of economics

Chicago school – Based on neo-classical economics, rational choice and benefits of free markets. Key people from Chicago university, include Frank Knight, Milton Friedman, Eugene Fama and Gary Becker

Institutional economics – A look at how institutions, society and social trends can influence economics. A forerunner of behavioural economics. Key people include Thorstein Veblen, John Kenneth Galbraith, and Ha-Joon Chang.

Distributism/social-democratic approach. Seeking a third way between capitalism and socialism.

Real Business Cycle – Models that suggest macroeconomic fluctuations caused by supply-side changes, such as technological shocks. See – Real business cycle

Mercantilism – Early model of economics emphasising tariff barriers and the accumulation of gold reserves. Mercantilism

Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) – is a recent development that emphasises the ability of the government to print money and borrow in order to achieve full employment. See Modern Monetary Theory (MMT)



You denied all the schools of economics


Because your a self aggrandizing idiot
 
Please read the history that I provided


They use that financial tool because it works to control inflation


It’s works is why they do it

Despite seven straight increases in just nine months, totaling a whopping 4.25 percentage points – a pace not seen since the Fed’s inflation fight in the 1980s – prices have barely slowed.

The Fed’s failure is partly due to events outside the United States – Putin’s war in Ukraine, China’s lockdown and post-Covid demand worldwide exceeding worldwide supplies of all sorts of materials and components.

But it’s also because domestic inflation is being driven by profits, not wages. And interest rate hikes don’t reduce profit-driven inflation – at least not directly. Instead, workers and consumers take the hit.

The labor department reported that labor costs increased 5.3% over the past year. But prices rose 7.1%. This means the real purchasing power of American workers continues to drop.

Forget the 1970s wage-price spiral when real average earnings continued to rise for much of the decade. Now, workers are taking it on the chin.

Profits have grown faster than labor costs for seven of the past eight quarters. Today’s price inflation is more a product of profits than wages.

Corporate profits surged to a record high of $2.08 trillion in the third quarter of this year, even as inflation continued to squeeze workers and consumers. Over the last two years, quarterly profits have ballooned more than an 80%, from around $1.2 trillion to more than $2 trillion.

Executives of big companies across America continue to tell Wall Street they can keep prices high or raise them even higher.

Not every business is raking it in, to be sure. Most small businesses aren’t sharing in the profit bonanza because everything they need for putting stuff on the shelves has gone up in price.

But the big ones have never done as well.

In fact, rather than slowing corporate price increases, the Fed’s rate hikes seem to be having the opposite effect.

It’s not hard to see why. If I run a big corporation, I’m not going to lower my prices and profits in the face of a pending economic slowdown. I’ll do everything I can to keep them as high as possible for as long as I can.

I’ll reduce my prices and profits only when the Fed’s higher rates begin hurting consumers enough that they stop buying stuff at my high prices because they can find better deals elsewhere.

Yet if I have a monopoly or near-monopoly – as is increasingly the case with big American corporations – my consumers won’t have much choice. If they want and need my stuff, they’ll continue to buy at the higher prices.

Of course, I’ll keep telling them I have no choice but to keep raising my prices because my costs keep increasing – even though that’s bunk because I’m increasing my profit margins.

Eventually, the Fed could raise interest rates so high that the cost of borrowing makes it impossible for consumers – whose wages, remember, are already dropping, adjusted for inflation – to afford what I’m selling, thereby forcing me to stop raising my prices.

But by this time, people will be hurting. Many will have lost economic ground. Some will have become impoverished. A large number of jobs will have been lost.

The Fed should stop believing it can easily stop profit-price inflation by hiking interest rates. It should pause interest-rate hikes long enough to see – and allow the nation to see – they’re harming workers and consumers more than corporations that continue to rake in record profits.

The government should use other means to tame inflation. Like what?

Like windfall profits taxes – as California’s governor, Gavin Newsom, has proposed for oil companies there, and Representative Ro Khanna and Senator Sheldon Whitehouse have proposed nationally (taxing the difference between the current price of oil per barrel and the average cost between 2015 and 2019).

Like tough antitrust enforcement aimed at reducing the pricing power of big corporations (as Lina Kahn is attempting at the Federal Trade Commission and Jonathan Kanter is trying at the antitrust division of the justice department).

Like a new antitrust law that allows enforcers to bust up big corporations (and prevent them from buying other businesses) when they’re powerful enough to continue raising their prices higher than their costs are rising. (Could Republicans in Congress be coaxed into supporting this? I believe so.)

It’s important that Americans know the truth. Seven Fed rate hikes in just nine months have not dented corporate power to raise prices and profit margins.

Which is why the Fed is putting the onus of fighting inflation on workers and consumers rather than on the corporations responsible for it.

This is wrong. It’s bad economics. It’s insane politics. And it’s profoundly unfair.
 
Yes the corporations are being assholes



They always are unless we pin them in with the proper regulations on their actions


The republicans have worked for decades to deregulate everything they could


Regulations would help greatly


But the facts are we can’t put them in place because the republicans cheat to win elections which means even when we WIN FULL CONTROL our numbers are small enough for the republicans and assholes like Manchin to prevent us from correcting all the tools we need to fix things
 
So your solution is to not allow rates to go up.

There is no economic reason to raise interest rates at this time because the economy is not overheating (still below 3% annual growth) and the job market is tight.


They can only go down (which is them intervening BTW) . and when they reach zero - you are ok with negative rates as seen in Europe too?

There are times for rate adjustments, but right now is not the time for it....there's no economic reason to do so. Increasing interest rates will only have the effect of reduced consumer spending, particularly in housing.

And if the housing market tanks again because the Fed hates workers with leverage, then we will simply have a repeat of what happened in 2008-9.
 
Please read the history that I provided


They use that financial tool because it works to control inflation


It’s works is why they do it

All that information I got from various newsletters of Robert Reich, a former US secretary of labor, is professor of public policy at the University of California, Berkeley, and the author of Saving Capitalism: For the Many, Not the Few and The Common Good. His new book, The System: Who Rigged It, How We Fix It, is out now.

I should have quoted him, and that's my fault, so I'll forward your thanks for my post to him!

Thanks again!
 
The right WANTS the economy to fail. At least those on this site seem to want that. I suspect because they have very little to lose.

Freedoms just another word......

They want the economy to fail, so they do not feel like such losers themselves.
 
You also have to agree that you will not reduce your staff for a period of time. It is quite a risk for employers

It is a risk, and even beyond a risk, it is many times a certain loss. Imagine if you own a restaurant and had to keep staff on while closed. That is a major loss.

It is interesting that Stone gave a link listing all the states and how many PPP loans they got. Florida got a lot, but Stone also claimed Florida had no problems. Odd how that works.
 
What exactly is unbalanced? I don't know what you're getting at.

The imbalance of workers willing to work for the prevailing wages and compensations is a type of imbalance


Yes that gives workers an edge


But with the correct regulations on compensation minimums


Regulations are a big part of what we need

Laws to protect the people from the oversteps of industry


Every time we try the Republican election cheating keeps it off the table


Things need to be done to stop the cheating so we can do the things that are good for the nation


But the republicans keep the corporations in control
 
My own that I was taught at a young age. Always pay YOURSELF first. In otherwords.....SAVE. Now STFU you idiot.

You were taught macroeconomics at a young age? You want to economy to always pay yourself first? That is not even good microeconomic advice, much less macroeconomic advice.

When starting a business, it is best to build equity, rather than trying to get yourself money up front.
 
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