Analysis: Obama gambles with gay marriage move

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Analysis: Obama gambles with gay marriage move

WASHINGTON (AP) — Public opinion about gay marriage has changed so rapidly that President Barack Obama's historic embrace of it may pose as many political risks to Republicans as to the president and his fellow Democrats.

The president's dramatic shift on the issue — a watershed moment in U.S. politics, even if many people felt it was inevitable — is the latest sign that Democratic hopes increasingly rest on younger, college-educated and largely urban voters, whose lifestyles are shaped by social mobility more than religious and community traditions. Many young adults find the notion of discriminating against gays and lesbians as incomprehensible as their parents' and grandparents' accounts of living through racial segregation.

Yet same-sex marriage remains provocative in some places, including once-reliably Republican states such as North Carolina, where Obama won a narrow but stunning victory in 2008. Only hours before his Wednesday announcement on ABC News, North Carolina voters turned out in huge numbers to approve a constitutional ban on gay marriage.

http://news.yahoo.com/analysis-obama-gambles-gay-marriage-move-205851099.html

interesting...i was just told today this is non-issue and only hacks make it an issue.
 
Gee - did that get under your skin, Yurtsie?

As usual, you twist a l'il. I said it's a safe issue for you to "oppose" Romney on, because what a President thinks on it is inconsequential. You'll still vote for Romney as many times as you can...
 
awe...is little onceler upset because he is naive? you said it was a non-issue, now you're back peddling because you realize i was right.

keep saying i will vote for mitt, despite the fact i've said repeatedly i may not vote for anyone. it's ok, i understand you have this great need to lie about what others say in order to make yourself feel superior.

what an embarrassing day for you. but i'm sure tomorrow you will run around claiming it was embarrassing for me. LOL.
 
btw...i find it truly funny how you're making a huge issue out of the fact i may vote for romney. when it comes down to it, i probably will as right now...romney is better for the country than obama. it is just another sign of your naivety that someone can't vote for a candidate just because they don't support all their positions. i mean really, in this country, there isn't really another viable choice. voting TP is pretty much a non vote unfortunately. but do go on ranting about how i will vote for romney. it really makes you look smart onceler. especially your claim i will commit voter fraud. that is pure classic hackceler...
 
Yurt : when it comes down to it, i probably will as right now...romney is better for the country than obama.

Kindly explain your rationale. Begin with how you know what Romney will do. My guess is the american people will be strapped on the roof for the ride.
 
tinfoil said:
Yurt : when it comes down to it, i probably will as right now...romney is better for the country than obama.

Kindly explain your rationale. Begin with how you know what Romney will do. My guess is the american people will be strapped on the roof for the ride.
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for starters, no more bailouts. he also is against obamacare. his h/c plan is far better than obama's. i also support most of his tax ideas.

are you suggesting the american people won't be out for a ride with obama?

who are you likely to vote for and why?
 
I love it when you talk about your "points." Bad translation, btw.

And why are you avoiding the meltdown question?
 
and here we go...onceler avoiding the discussion and points and focusing on sniping.

let me help you little buddy.

1. you said it was non issue

2. you keep saying i will vote for romney as many times as possible, despite saying i may not vote for anyone and of course you can't prove i will commit voter fraud (really dumb comment btw)

3. why is you don't believe someone can still vote for someone if they don't support all their positions?
 
Yurt said:
and here we go...onceler avoiding the discussion and points and focusing on sniping.

let me help you little buddy.

1. you said it was non issue

2. you keep saying i will vote for romney as many times as possible, despite saying i may not vote for anyone and of course you can't prove i will commit voter fraud (really dumb comment btw)

3. why is you don't believe someone can still vote for someone if they don't support all their positions?
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When I wrote that it was a non-issue, it was a HUGE headline on MSNBC. You think it's some sort of "gotcha" that it's a big story, but I was pretty aware that it was a big story, and had seen that headline & his change of position, and knew it would last for a cycle or 2.

So, why am I not shocked that you can't read again? My point was that it's a non-issue for Presidents, and it is - because there is nothing they can or will do about it. It is not in the realm of executive policy, which is exactly what I stated, btw. Thus, it's low-hanging fruit for rightie hacks like you, who think they're showing their "independence" by disagreeing w/ the candidate they'll vote for as many times as possible.

But you'll defend him to the hilt on any executive issues, as you've already shown.

Btw, I don't expect you to get or understand any of this.
 
I wonder why it is that people keep telling us that polls show overwhelming support for gay marriage, yet every time it goes to a vote people vote against it in large numbers....even in California......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I wonder why it is that people keep telling us that polls show overwhelming support for gay marriage, yet every time it goes to a vote people vote against it in large numbers....even in California......
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the polls i see don't show overwhelming support...i see pretty much even split, sometimes for, sometimes against...the vote in CA was almost 50/50
 
E=Onceler;997234]When I wrote that it was a non-issue, it was a HUGE headline on MSNBC. You think it's some sort of "gotcha" that it's a big story, but I was pretty aware that it was a big story, and had seen that headline & his change of position, and knew it would last for a cycle or 2.
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onceler....we aren't talking about headlines or that it was a big story. you really have comprehension issues, no wonder you feel the need to constantly claim others do, you're projecting.

So, why am I not shocked that you can't read again? My point was that it's a non-issue for Presidents, and it is - because there is nothing they can or will do about it. It is not in the realm of executive policy, which is exactly what I stated, btw. Thus, it's low-hanging fruit for rightie hacks like you, who think they're showing their "independence" by disagreeing w/ the candidate they'll vote for as many times as possible.
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lol...and the "you can't read"...tff...when you're the one talking about something other than what is being discussed.

let me try and explain this to you again. it is not a non-issue for presidents.

1. they can do something about it. they are in charge of enforcing DOMA, making executive changes in the military. a president can use the bully pulpit to convince people and the congress to change laws. the president can also appoint scotus justices who are pro gay marriage. it is absolute non sense that the president can do nothing about it. you're very naive.

2. it an issue because he could lose votes. he took a risk. if this was really a non issue as you claim, there would be no risk for him.


But you'll defend him to the hilt on any executive issues, as you've already shown.

Btw, I don't expect you to get or understand any of this
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yep...back to the lies.
 
lmao...onceler runs away again and sticks to sniping

why do you this whenever anyone counters your points? how is it a meltdown to respond to your points onceler? you asked a logical fallacy (loaded question) about a meltdown. fine...if you really want to play this stupid game...that was not a meltdown in any sense.

why do you beat your dog?
 
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