another dishonest statement from romney

Onceler said:
Romney was against it before he was for it. And he was only really for it after it worked.

I remember this from the '08 campaign, especially when McCain was pulling ahead & he was getting desperate; he's as shameless a politician at this level that I've seen in my lifetime. He'll literally say anything.

We're going to hear all kinds of fun stuff in this campaign...
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I was going to say the same thing, You saved me the trouble. He has to win the auto industry states, so he will lie to do so and the uninformed will believe him!
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
Actually, what Rmoney proposed with respect to the bankruptcy is guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing and assurance that manufacturer warranties weren't at risk. The trouble with that, of course, is that without government money the only bankruptcy process available would have been a Chapter 7 liquidation. There would be no post-bankruptcy entity to loan money to.
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once again a liberal misconstrues what romney said. he did not say no government money. if you read and understand with an objective view, you will realize that romney recommended was what actually was done by obama's admin. additionally, romney didn't recommend chapter 7 as the only alternative. pure nonsense from you as usual.
 
Yurt said:
once again a liberal misconstrues what romney said. he did not say no government money. if you read and understand with an objective view, you will realize that romney recommended was what actually was done by obama's admin. additionally, romney didn't recommend chapter 7 as the only alternative. pure nonsense from you as usual.
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Bullshit. His op-ed is pretty clear about the role of the government and it didn't include any funding at all, only post-bankruptcy loan guarantees. And I didn't say that Romney recommended Chapter 7, I said that absent government money, which Romney opposed, Chapter 7 is the only result. Private financing was not available.

Romney did not recommend the government doing anything resembling what the government actually did.


Postscript: Wipe your chin.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
Bullshit. His op-ed is pretty clear about the role of the government and it didn't include any funding at all, only post-bankruptcy loan guarantees. And I didn't say that Romney recommended Chapter 7, I said that absent government money, which Romney opposed, Chapter 7 is the only result. Private financing was not available.

Romney did not recommend the government doing anything resembling what the government actually did.


Postscript: Wipe your chin.
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you are either a liar or a fucking retard. romney did not say he was opposed to government money. you are truly a master liberal hack dung. cite where he said no government money.

your OPINION as to what MIGHT have happened is not fact. try as you may, but that is just the way it is. you can continue to lie about what romney said or pull your head of your ass and actually read what he said.
 
Yurt, just in case you're not aware - what you're doing is often called "apologism." Some refer to it also as "shameless apologism."
 
Yurt said:
i definitely think he is over zealous in how much credit he is due...then again, what politician isn't. btw...his comments are not dishonest, they are actually true, except for possibly how much credit he gets, however, that is just his opinion.
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poor darla....the truth really hurts doesn't it.....LOL
 
Onceler said:
Did you miss the "his comments are not dishonest, they are actually true" part of the statement you made?
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his comments about what should happen, yeah, those were actually true and did in fact happen for the most part...no surprise the dishonest hack ignores that fact i said he is wrong about how much credit he gets by leaving out the whole context (except for possibly how much credit he gets)....i doubt obama read what he said....but who knows....the reality is...most of his ideas were followed.

but i know that liberals must ignore that truth and instead attack, attack, atack
 
Yurt said:
his comments about what should happen, yeah, those were actually true and did in fact happen for the most part...no surprise the dishonest hack ignores that fact i said he is wrong about how much credit he gets by leaving out the whole context (except for possibly how much credit he gets)....i doubt obama read what he said....but who knows....the reality is...most of his ideas were followed.

but i know that liberals must ignore that truth and instead attack, attack, atack
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I don't think you understand what most words mean. And it's clear that you do believe Romney, even w/ the post above.
 
Onceler said:
I don't think you understand what most words mean. And it's clear that you do believe Romney, even w/ the post above.
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i don't think you have an honest bone your body. you purposefully cut out the words that prove your contention, about what i said, wrong. go on sniping and nit picking onceler....you're very good at it.

my words are there for anyone to read.
 
Yurt said:
you are either a liar or a fucking retard. romney did not say he was opposed to government money. you are truly a master liberal hack dung. cite where he said no government money.
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You mean other than the part where he says they should not get a bailout and "needs a turnaround not a check?"


Yurt said:
your OPINION as to what MIGHT have happened is not fact. try as you may, but that is just the way it is. you can continue to lie about what romney said or pull your head of your ass and actually read what he said.
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And you can continue to swallow unmitigated horseshit and pretend to live in a fantasy land where the magic free market faeries would shower GM with financing to prevent a liquidation, but in the real world, what Romney proposed and what the government did are worlds apart and so are the outcomes of those two different proposals.
 
eneral Buck Turgidson;996793]You mean other than the part where he says they should not get a bailout and "needs a turnaround not a check?"
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you're such a disingenuous cherry picker. do i have to copy the entire article to show you're full of meadowmuffins? here is why he said that:

Without that bailout, Detroit will need to drastically restructure itself. With it, the automakers will stay the course....

he had to problem with government help IF they didn't stay the course. i've cited that already. and now i have to do so again:

It is not wrong to ask for government help, but the automakers should come up with a win-win proposition.

And you can continue to swallow unmitigated horseshit and pretend to live in a fantasy land where the magic free market faeries would shower GM with financing to prevent a liquidation, but in the real world, what Romney proposed and what the government did are worlds apart and so are the outcomes of those two different proposals.
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again, your opinion is not fact. you can shove bullshit all day and claim it is gold, but it will always be bullshit dungheap. what romney proposed and what happened are not world's apart. management was changed, there was an agreement for government help and not just a check that so far has been a win-win. keep shoveling manure and thinking it is gold, the only person who will stink at the end of the day is you.
 
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